8 weeks since surgery and I think I am flunking this test!

[thecakewasalie 41]

@@thecakewasalie - Do you have a nutritionist? If you are only 8 weeks out from surgery there is no way you should be eating 1,200 calories a day. You might not being losing weight because you are eating too much.

I do not have a NUT. I have a whole ton of backstop with that on my other thread. Pretty much the doc has been useless post surgery. I need to find one I think. I was able to drink half of a bottle of Water in 2 hours or so 2 days after surgery. However, I think I overestimated the calories because looking at my fitnesspal they are closer to 900 but still.

[hockeyfan7 249]

@@hockeyfan7 Are you 2 weeks out from surgery? And you are eating regular food and getting in 1,000 calories a day? Do you have a nutritionist?

I am three weeks out from surgery. And yes I can eat regular food without any problems and eat 1000 calories a day easily. A meal is 5 oz of Protein and a salad no problem. I do have a nutritionist but she's on vacation. I'm thinking I got a bigger stomach after the surgery. I have had zero problems with eating anything and I can chug a glass of Water easily too with no problems. I see my surgeon next week. I'm not eating crap food - I'm eating lean Protein and veggies but I can still eat more than I should be able to at this point.

[TammyDTM 391]

@@hockeyfan7 Are you 2 weeks out from surgery? And you are eating regular food and getting in 1,000 calories a day? Do you have a nutritionist?

I am three weeks out from surgery. And yes I can eat regular food without any problems and eat 1000 calories a day easily. A meal is 5 oz of Protein and a salad no problem. I do have a nutritionist but she's on vacation. I'm thinking I got a bigger stomach after the surgery. I have had zero problems with eating anything and I can chug a glass of Water easily too with no problems. I see my surgeon next week. I'm not eating crap food - I'm eating lean Protein and veggies but I can still eat more than I should be able to at this point.

smh...

[marcy0912 66]

Maybe I should keep my mouth shut. I am not a patient, but the very supportive wife. My husband is starting the process of a band to sleeve revision and we are hoping for a late September surgery date. I have been to the appointment with him, and have read not just the binder from the surgeon, but everything I can find online.

Both DH and I know that this is a tool to help him lose weight and get healthy. He also knows that in order to be successful, he needs to follow, to the letter, the program that the surgeon and nutritionist lay out.

I read all the time here, and on other forums, of people who are not being successful. Most of the time, it comes out that they are eating solids too soon or eating too many carbs. I am the first to admit that I don't know what it's like to be a food addict. But, having been with one for almost 25 years, I know the struggles all too well. Ultimately, it is up to him to succeed with this gift he is being given. And while I cannot watch him 24/7, he knows that following the plan is the only way to succeed. liquids for 2 weeks. Mashies for 2 then the slow introduction of solids. Letting the new stomach heal and more importantly, learning how to eat to live, not live to eat.

Sorry if I offended anyone, and like I said, I don't know what it's like to live in your shoes. But, I will walk over flaming broken glass to help my husband succeed.

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[Saxinj31 5]

I hope that you have a little more compassion for your husband than for the people who are still struggling after their surgeries. Being a 'food addict' and 'being with a food addict' even for 25 years are 2 very different experiences. We all know what to do, but if it were that easy, we wouldn't be looking to this or any other forum for advice, and understanding. I can only speak for myself when I say that surgery was my last resort to help me with my struggle to lose weight. Every day is a challenge for me. Perhaps it would be helpful for you to start a thread for family members living with someone going through weight loss surgery, where your comments would be more appropriate.

[Babbs 14,680]

@@hockeyfan7

Wow. Is salad and "regular" food on your plan already? I mean, even if you can eat it, doesn't mean you should....your sleeve is still healing! That's why they recommend liquids and soft foods the first few weeks to a month basically, to let the stomach heal up.

[Shustar 395]

Marcy0912, thank you for yout thoughtful post. It is so hard for a spouse/friend/family member to support an overweight person. We all got to be fat for different reasons but we are all united that for our health andhappiness, the solutions are not easy. As a gal 2.5 weeks out, I marvel at those who are eating real food already. My Dr would have a heart attack. That being said, these are so many different approaches to this surgery. If you just look at pre-surgery diets...wow! Just help your dear hubby with what his Dr suggests and you'll be great! Good luck to you both!

[thecakewasalie 41]

@@hockeyfan7 Are you 2 weeks out from surgery? And you are eating regular food and getting in 1,000 calories a day? Do you have a nutritionist?

I am three weeks out from surgery. And yes I can eat regular food without any problems and eat 1000 calories a day easily. A meal is 5 oz of Protein and a salad no problem. I do have a nutritionist but she's on vacation. I'm thinking I got a bigger stomach after the surgery. I have had zero problems with eating anything and I can chug a glass of Water easily too with no problems. I see my surgeon next week. I'm not eating crap food - I'm eating lean Protein and veggies but I can still eat more than I should be able to at this point.

I think MANY conversion folks feel that way. I know I did. This "I can only sip 2oz of Water and I feel like I am drowning " never happened to me.

There are as many after surgery diets as there are doctors. Everyone thinks their doc is the most right. But if none of them agree then my thought is there is no scientific answer and they are all GUESSING. SO, just be aware of that when people start judging you and what your doc has you doing.

MOST people on here mean well, and they may come off as being harsh but they are providing helpful information along the way and they do care. Others are just food shaming and do nothing other than that...not actually offering any usefulness in their post. Ignore those ones and try not to let it get to you.

Most docs do not have people on solids at 3 weeks but I have read the post diets from 3 different hospitals who do. So I am not totally suprised.

That being said. It still hurts for me to eat meat. But that is me. If you are 3 weeks out and able to eat 1000 calories of solid food then you might benefit from a 5 day pouch test. You can look it up online but pretty much go back to liquids for a couple days, then mushies, softs, then regular food again. Some people say that helps them get some better restriction. Eating solids...and too much solid too soon and put stress on your staple line. I have also read that it can cause you to stretch out a but more...making it hard to fill up. I don't know how much of that is "bro science " and how much of that is proven science but it can't hurt to do a reset and see how you feel.

Also, when you are eating normal food. Make sure you are not drinking with or too soon after. Conversion surgery people already seem to have their food make its way into the lower gi a little faster so don't speed that process up.

Eat slow, BUT don't eat so slow that it takes you more than 20 min. I wad doing this very thing!!! I wad taking about 45 min to eat...and could eat a lot. But I sped up just a little bit and started stopping after 20 min and I am filling up on less calories.

1000 calories can add up fast. And really...in the long run....it is what we should eventually be eating. The idea that we live on 500 calories a day for ever is absurd. The point of this honeymoon phase is to help you lose weight WHILE retraining your system to eat healthy.

NO ONE GETS FAT ON 1000 CALORIES A DAY OF VEGETABLES AND chicken....unless you are 2. So....

Hang in there. ..listen to your body....and just keep making good choices.

Much love!!!

[hockeyfan7 249]

@@hockeyfan7 Are you 2 weeks out from surgery? And you are eating regular food and getting in 1,000 calories a day? Do you have a nutritionist?

I am three weeks out from surgery. And yes I can eat regular food without any problems and eat 1000 calories a day easily. A meal is 5 oz of Protein and a salad no problem. I do have a nutritionist but she's on vacation. I'm thinking I got a bigger stomach after the surgery. I have had zero problems with eating anything and I can chug a glass of Water easily too with no problems. I see my surgeon next week. I'm not eating crap food - I'm eating lean Protein and veggies but I can still eat more than I should be able to at this point.

I think MANY conversion folks feel that way. I know I did. This "I can only sip 2oz of Water and I feel like I am drowning " never happened to me.

There are as many after surgery diets as there are doctors. Everyone thinks their doc is the most right. But if none of them agree then my thought is there is no scientific answer and they are all GUESSING. SO, just be aware of that when people start judging you and what your doc has you doing.

MOST people on here mean well, and they may come off as being harsh but they are providing helpful information along the way and they do care. Others are just food shaming and do nothing other than that...not actually offering any usefulness in their post. Ignore those ones and try not to let it get to you.

Most docs do not have people on solids at 3 weeks but I have read the post diets from 3 different hospitals who do. So I am not totally suprised.

That being said. It still hurts for me to eat meat. But that is me. If you are 3 weeks out and able to eat 1000 calories of solid food then you might benefit from a 5 day pouch test. You can look it up online but pretty much go back to liquids for a couple days, then mushies, softs, then regular food again. Some people say that helps them get some better restriction. Eating solids...and too much solid too soon and put stress on your staple line. I have also read that it can cause you to stretch out a but more...making it hard to fill up. I don't know how much of that is "bro science " and how much of that is proven science but it can't hurt to do a reset and see how you feel.

Also, when you are eating normal food. Make sure you are not drinking with or too soon after. Conversion surgery people already seem to have their food make its way into the lower gi a little faster so don't speed that process up.

Eat slow, BUT don't eat so slow that it takes you more than 20 min. I wad doing this very thing!!! I wad taking about 45 min to eat...and could eat a lot. But I sped up just a little bit and started stopping after 20 min and I am filling up on less calories.

1000 calories can add up fast. And really...in the long run....it is what we should eventually be eating. The idea that we live on 500 calories a day for ever is absurd. The point of this honeymoon phase is to help you lose weight WHILE retraining your system to eat healthy.

NO ONE GETS FAT ON 1000 CALORIES A DAY OF VEGETABLES AND chicken....unless you are 2. So....

Hang in there. ..listen to your body....and just keep making good choices.

Much love!!!

Thanks! I saw my surgeon 2 days ago for my post-op follow up and he said he took off about 70% instead of the usual 80% because of the band. He didn't want leaks.

He also said that 1,000 calories a day is fine and not to worry about what the NUT says. He said they are more used to dealing with straight sleevers and not revisions. He said revisions can sometimes eat more and I'm doing fine. He told me to just stick to Proteins and hit the goal and then fill in with the non-starchy veggies and not to worry about it.

My surgeon's normal plan is for people to start solids between day 10 and day 14 depending on how they feel. Lean Proteins and non-starchy veggies. He keeps reminding me every time I see him not to eat mashed potatoes. I hate, loathe and despise mashed potatoes. I told him I'd rather eat canned cat food - at least it has protein.

[thecakewasalie 41]

@@hockeyfan7 Are you 2 weeks out from surgery? And you are eating regular food and getting in 1,000 calories a day? Do you have a nutritionist?

I am three weeks out from surgery. And yes I can eat regular food without any problems and eat 1000 calories a day easily. A meal is 5 oz of Protein and a salad no problem. I do have a nutritionist but she's on vacation. I'm thinking I got a bigger stomach after the surgery. I have had zero problems with eating anything and I can chug a glass of Water easily too with no problems. I see my surgeon next week. I'm not eating crap food - I'm eating lean Protein and veggies but I can still eat more than I should be able to at this point.

I think MANY conversion folks feel that way. I know I did. This "I can only sip 2oz of Water and I feel like I am drowning " never happened to me.

There are as many after surgery diets as there are doctors. Everyone thinks their doc is the most right. But if none of them agree then my thought is there is no scientific answer and they are all GUESSING. SO, just be aware of that when people start judging you and what your doc has you doing.

MOST people on here mean well, and they may come off as being harsh but they are providing helpful information along the way and they do care. Others are just food shaming and do nothing other than that...not actually offering any usefulness in their post. Ignore those ones and try not to let it get to you.

Most docs do not have people on solids at 3 weeks but I have read the post diets from 3 different hospitals who do. So I am not totally suprised.

That being said. It still hurts for me to eat meat. But that is me. If you are 3 weeks out and able to eat 1000 calories of solid food then you might benefit from a 5 day pouch test. You can look it up online but pretty much go back to liquids for a couple days, then mushies, softs, then regular food again. Some people say that helps them get some better restriction. Eating solids...and too much solid too soon and put stress on your staple line. I have also read that it can cause you to stretch out a but more...making it hard to fill up. I don't know how much of that is "bro science " and how much of that is proven science but it can't hurt to do a reset and see how you feel.

Also, when you are eating normal food. Make sure you are not drinking with or too soon after. Conversion surgery people already seem to have their food make its way into the lower gi a little faster so don't speed that process up.

Eat slow, BUT don't eat so slow that it takes you more than 20 min. I wad doing this very thing!!! I wad taking about 45 min to eat...and could eat a lot. But I sped up just a little bit and started stopping after 20 min and I am filling up on less calories.

1000 calories can add up fast. And really...in the long run....it is what we should eventually be eating. The idea that we live on 500 calories a day for ever is absurd. The point of this honeymoon phase is to help you lose weight WHILE retraining your system to eat healthy.

NO ONE GETS FAT ON 1000 CALORIES A DAY OF VEGETABLES AND chicken....unless you are 2. So....

Hang in there. ..listen to your body....and just keep making good choices.

Much love!!!

Thanks! I saw my surgeon 2 days ago for my post-op follow up and he said he took off about 70% instead of the usual 80% because of the band. He didn't want leaks.

He also said that 1,000 calories a day is fine and not to worry about what the NUT says. He said they are more used to dealing with straight sleevers and not revisions. He said revisions can sometimes eat more and I'm doing fine. He told me to just stick to Proteins and hit the goal and then fill in with the non-starchy veggies and not to worry about it.

My surgeon's normal plan is for people to start solids between day 10 and day 14 depending on how they feel. Lean Proteins and non-starchy veggies. He keeps reminding me every time I see him not to eat mashed potatoes. I hate, loathe and despise mashed potatoes. I told him I'd rather eat canned cat food - at least it has protein.

Hahahahahha you go girl! I was eating similar to you...went to liquids 2 meals a day and just eggs for the 3rd meal. Now I am filling up on a lot less. Didn't even take 5 days. But I am losing again. Do what works for you...but if it stops working. ..try mixing it up a little. Remember. ..marathon...not a sprint.

[Flygirl123 150]

Maybe I should keep my mouth shut. I am not a patient, but the very supportive wife. My husband is starting the process of a band to sleeve revision and we are hoping for a late September surgery date. I have been to the appointment with him, and have read not just the binder from the surgeon, but everything I can find online.

Both DH and I know that this is a tool to help him lose weight and get healthy. He also knows that in order to be successful, he needs to follow, to the letter, the program that the surgeon and nutritionist lay out.

I read all the time here, and on other forums, of people who are not being successful. Most of the time, it comes out that they are eating solids too soon or eating too many carbs. I am the first to admit that I don't know what it's like to be a food addict. But, having been with one for almost 25 years, I know the struggles all too well. Ultimately, it is up to him to succeed with this gift he is being given. And while I cannot watch him 24/7, he knows that following the plan is the only way to succeed. liquids for 2 weeks. Mashies for 2 then the slow introduction of solids. Letting the new stomach heal and more importantly, learning how to eat to live, not live to eat.

Sorry if I offended anyone, and like I said, I don't know what it's like to live in your shoes. But, I will walk over flaming broken glass to help my husband succeed.

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I agree with your first sentence.

[hockeyfan7 249]

@@hockeyfan7

Wow. Is salad and "regular" food on your plan already? I mean, even if you can eat it, doesn't mean you should....your sleeve is still healing! That's why they recommend liquids and soft foods the first few weeks to a month basically, to let the stomach heal up.

Babbs, yes it is on my plan already. The surgical practice I went to which is part of the COE in the town where I live and the NUT start people on solids between day 10 and day 14. There really isn't a soft foods stage unless you are having trouble with liquids.

Starting day 10 the plan paperwork they gave me is lean Proteins to get in 80 to 100 grams a day and non-starchy veggies. I can use light or fat free Salad Dressing, mayo, etc.

Every surgeon is different and every plan is different. I had a 3 day hospital day and I've seen posts from people who went home in 24 hours. I had a drain during the hospital stay and I've seen posts where some people don't.

I also have a slightly larger than normal sleeve my surgeon said because I was a band to sleeve revision in one surgery. He didn't take off quite as much as he normally would so I wouldn't have a risk of leaks.

[hockeyfan7 249]

Maybe I should keep my mouth shut. I am not a patient, but the very supportive wife. My husband is starting the process of a band to sleeve revision and we are hoping for a late September surgery date. I have been to the appointment with him, and have read not just the binder from the surgeon, but everything I can find online.

Both DH and I know that this is a tool to help him lose weight and get healthy. He also knows that in order to be successful, he needs to follow, to the letter, the program that the surgeon and nutritionist lay out.

I read all the time here, and on other forums, of people who are not being successful. Most of the time, it comes out that they are eating solids too soon or eating too many carbs. I am the first to admit that I don't know what it's like to be a food addict. But, having been with one for almost 25 years, I know the struggles all too well. Ultimately, it is up to him to succeed with this gift he is being given. And while I cannot watch him 24/7, he knows that following the plan is the only way to succeed. Liquids for 2 weeks. Mashies for 2 then the slow introduction of solids. Letting the new stomach heal and more importantly, learning how to eat to live, not live to eat.

Sorry if I offended anyone, and like I said, I don't know what it's like to live in your shoes. But, I will walk over flaming broken glass to help my husband succeed.

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Please understand that every surgeon is different and every surgeon's plan is different. I did not have a liquid pre-op diet. I had a low carb, 1000 calories a day diet of just lean Proteins and non-starchy veggies for 3 weeks.

My surgeon has been doing bariatric surgery for years, has a ton of them under his belt, and is part of a Bariatric Center of Excellence. I had a revision from band to sleeve which he says is different from straight sleeve too in what you will feel with restriction and what you will be able to eat to start with.

I would advise your husband to follow what his surgeon says.

[thecakewasalie 41]

Maybe I should keep my mouth shut. I am not a patient, but the very supportive wife. My husband is starting the process of a band to sleeve revision and we are hoping for a late September surgery date. I have been to the appointment with him, and have read not just the binder from the surgeon, but everything I can find online.

Both DH and I know that this is a tool to help him lose weight and get healthy. He also knows that in order to be successful, he needs to follow, to the letter, the program that the surgeon and nutritionist lay out.

I read all the time here, and on other forums, of people who are not being successful. Most of the time, it comes out that they are eating solids too soon or eating too many carbs. I am the first to admit that I don't know what it's like to be a food addict. But, having been with one for almost 25 years, I know the struggles all too well. Ultimately, it is up to him to succeed with this gift he is being given. And while I cannot watch him 24/7, he knows that following the plan is the only way to succeed. Liquids for 2 weeks. Mashies for 2 then the slow introduction of solids. Letting the new stomach heal and more importantly, learning how to eat to live, not live to eat.

Sorry if I offended anyone, and like I said, I don't know what it's like to live in your shoes. But, I will walk over flaming broken glass to help my husband succeed.

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Please understand that every surgeon is different and every surgeon's plan is different. I did not have a liquid pre-op diet. I had a low carb, 1000 calories a day diet of just lean Proteins and non-starchy veggies for 3 weeks.

My surgeon has been doing bariatric surgery for years, has a ton of them under his belt, and is part of a Bariatric Center of Excellence. I had a revision from band to sleeve which he says is different from straight sleeve too in what you will feel with restriction and what you will be able to eat to start with.

I would advise your husband to follow what his surgeon says.

Ok, strange. On my screen all of the quotes ....like when you quote someone. ..have my photo in them.

For a min I was like....wait...I never said that.

Edited June 27, 2015 by thecakewasalie