You all know how I would vote. So lets see how many like me are out there.

I'm sorry, but did you just say ALL babies die young...?

I was just curious...how come a woman cannot "kill" her baby, but it is okay for soldiers to kill in the name of our country at the order of the government...doesn't that make them murderers?

I'm sorry, but did you just say ALL babies die young...?

Sorry -- meant to say SOME -- that's what I get for posting and running, which is what I'm also doing now. Bye!

Also...Patty...just because I am a non believer now doesn't mean I was ALWAYS a non beliver...in fact I am a beliver now...just not the same beliefs as yours.

Also...Patty...just because I am a non believer now doesn't mean I was ALWAYS a non beliver...in fact I am a beliver now...just not the same beliefs as yours.

Do you mind my asking what your belief is? Just curious. You don't have to answer me if it is personal.

My husband and I are agnostic. I used to be Armenian Apostolic.

That's interesting, rodriguez, Armenian Apostolic. My first boyfriend was half Armenian. His father was Armenian. He was a corporate attorney for a huge American Oil Company. His mother had her Ph.D. and was a social worker. They were as unlikely a pair as you'd ever see, I think. As it turned out, they divorced when my boyfriend was a senior in high school. He and I accompanied her a few times when she had to pick up children when there was abuse involved.

His mother was a Methodist, as were my parents, and we went to church together for a while. He never mentioned anything about his father's religion or the religion of any of his family on his father's side.

Yeah. My mother is Armenian. As many people know us Armenians like to eat...in large quantities lol. I was raised Armenian Apostolic, but my parents never forced us to go to church...if we wanted to go they would take us, but if we didn't want to we didn't have to...we would spend the time together doing fun family things! :thumbup:

My only real memory of his dad and Armenian food was that he liked to bargeque shish-ka-bobs and he claimed that he did it "Armenian -style" which meant made with lamb. That was my first encounter with lamb and my last for a very long time. (My family didn't care for lamb.) His shish-ka-bobs were incredible. He also made some kind of rice pilaf with interesting seasonings and vegetables. Yum. Dose your mom bring any Armenian foods to your table?

Also...Patty...just because I am a non believer now doesn't mean I was ALWAYS a non beliver...in fact I am a beliver now...just not the same beliefs as yours.

If you say you are an agnostic, then this doesn't make sense to me, because doesn't agnostic mean simply "I don't know"? Meaning... an agnostic won't say they don't believe, like an atheist will, and they won't say that they do believe, like a christian will. They just say "I don't know." Yet, you say in the above post that you do believe.

Also, I looked up armenian apostolic, and see that that church believes in Jesus, and is therefore a christian church, which would make it the same belief as me. There may be some church traditions and beliefs I may not agree with as biblical, but the most important doctrine, which is that Jesus is the Savior, is really what matters in choosing a church to attend and associate with. I've always said that it's not the 'name' of the church you attend that counts, it's what's in your heart.

If I believe in anything it is that what's in your heart and soul count for everything.

If I believe in anything it is that what's in your heart and soul count for everything.

I believe that also, but just so long as it is Jesus that's in your heart. Because having him in your heart counts for everything!

If you say you are an agnostic, then this doesn't make sense to me, because doesn't agnostic mean simply "I don't know"? Meaning... an agnostic won't say they don't believe, like an atheist will, and they won't say that they do believe, like a christian will. They just say "I don't know." Yet, you say in the above post that you do believe.

Also, I looked up armenian apostolic, and see that that church believes in Jesus, and is therefore a christian church, which would make it the same belief as me. There may be some church traditions and beliefs I may not agree with as biblical, but the most important doctrine, which is that Jesus is the Savior, is really what matters in choosing a church to attend and associate with. I've always said that it's not the 'name' of the church you attend that counts, it's what's in your heart.

Their are different types of agnostics. Some lean more towards atheist and some towards theist. Yes Armenian Apostolic is one of the first forms of Christianity. That is how I was raised, but it isn't what I follow anymore. My husband and I are spiritual not so much religious.

My only real memory of his dad and Armenian food was that he liked to bargeque shish-ka-bobs and he claimed that he did it "Armenian -style" which meant made with lamb. That was my first encounter with lamb and my last for a very long time. (My family didn't care for lamb.) His shish-ka-bobs were incredible. He also made some kind of rice pilaf with interesting seasonings and vegetables. Yum. Dose your mom bring any Armenian foods to your table?

We have a huge Armenian feast every year for Christmas. My parent's raised me to have my own beliefs and follow my heart...my faith...after all...mother is God in the eyes of a child!

patty, people who claim to have Jesus in their heart aren't necessarily good people. It may be good to have Jesus in one's heart, but it is no guarantee. The goodness must come from within - no matter how or by whom it is inspired.

Many thousands, in fact no doubt millions, of people do not know Jesus and yet are good people, whom you could trust with your life; whom you could trust with the lives of your children.

Jesus does not have a monopoly on goodness.