Someone recently passed this article on to me, which I posted on another board. It was promptly removed. So sad . . .

Frightening News from France

Once again, the real news in France is conveniently

not being reported as it should. To give you an idea

of what's going on in France where there are now

between 5 and 6 million Muslims and about 600,000 Jews,

here is an email that came from a Jew living in

France. Please read! Will the world say nothing - again - as it did in Hitler's time?

"I AM A JEW -- therefore I am forwarding this to

everyone on all my e-mail lists. I will not sit back

and do nothing." Nowhere have the flames of

anti-Semitism burned more furiously than in France:

Lyon, a car was rammed into a synagogue and set

on fire. In Montpellier, the Jewish religious center

was firebombed; so were synagogues in Strasbourg and

Marseilles; so was a Jewish school in Creteil - all recently.

A Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with

Molotov cocktails, and on the statue of Alfred

Dreyfus in Paris, the words "Dirty Jew" were

painted. In Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a

Jewish football team with sticks and metal bars. The

bus that takes Jewish children to school in

Aubervilliers has been attacked three times in the last 14 months.

According to the Police, metropolitan Paris has seen

10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents PER DAY in the past

30 days. Walls in Jewish neighborhoods have been

defaced with slogans proclaiming "Jews to the gas

chambers" and "Death to the Jews."

A gunman opened fire on a Kosher butcher's shop

(and, of course, the butcher) in Toulouse , France;

a Jewish couple in their 20s were beaten up by five

men in Villeurbanne , France . The woman was

pregnant; a Jewish school was broken into and

vandalized in Sarcelles , France . This was just in

the past week.

So I call on you, whether you are a fellow Jew, a

friend, or merely a person with the capacity and

desire to distinguish decency from depravity, to do,

at least, these three simple things:

First, care enough to stay informed. Don't ever let

yourself become deluded into thinking that this is

no t your fight. I remind you of what Pastor

Neimoller said in World War II: "First they came for

the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I

wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and

I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they

came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up,

because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me,

and by that time there was no one left to speak up

for me".

Second, boycott France and French products. Only the

Arab countries are more toxically anti-Semitic and,

unlike them, France exports more than just oil and

hatred. So boycott their wines and their perfumes.

Boycott their clothes and their foodstuffs. Boycott

their movies. Definitely boycott their shores. If

we are resolved we can exert amazing pressure and,

whatever else we may know about the French, we most

certainly know that they are like a cobweb in a

hurricane in the face of well directed pressure.

Third, send this along to your family, your friends,

and your co-workers. Think of all of the people of

good conscience that you know and let them know

that you and the people that you care about need

their help. The number one best selling book in

France is "September 11: The Frightening Fraud,"

which argues that no plane ever hit the Pentagon."

Other than TOM, who won't talk about it because it's "personal", I have yet to have anyone else respond in the affirmative, that they believe Jesus is the Son of God, that He was crucified and resurrected on the third day, and that they also don't take the Bible literally. Is there no one else with this belief system who's willing to admit it and talk about it?

I'm a little curious as to why this matters to you so much? I also think that how you are asking the question doesn't really encourage response, things like "willing to admit it" for example.

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Scene #1:

Ron, TOM, gadgetlady Lisah25, Bjean, Green, GeezerSue, leatha_G, TommyO, ousooner, TruBlueSue, and all the other's who have posted to this thread all meet up in Heaven one day.

They greet each other with hugs and kisses (where appropriate) and talk about this thread and how it made them learn more about human nature, and the nature of God and religion, which may be the same thing (come to think of it). They all realize that though they argued tooth and nail, there were genuine relationships forged.

God and Jesus (at his right hand) walk by and are pleased at their endeavor. “See, Father, Adam and Eve might have broken your heart, but these LBT members have filled it with joy, but you already knew that would happen.”

Scene #2:

Ron, TOM, gadgetlady Lisah25, Bjean, Green, GeezerSue, leatha_G, TommyO, ousooner, TruBlueSue, and all the other's who have posted to this thread all meet up in Heaven one day.

They immediately rekindle this thread and a “knock down, drag out” verbal battle ensues, becoming so loud that God and Jesus (at his right hand) have to walk by to referee the battle. When they fail, Jesus issues a degree, “He (or she) who continues this battle shall be sent to join Satan. I gave you guys a break after that LBT melee, but enough is enough.”

As God and Jesus (at his right hand) walk away, a snicker and “I told you so” is heard.

Jesus spins on his heel and says, “No. I told you so” and the LBT crowd is not so crowded anymore.

Epilogue:

Which of these two scenes would you put your money on?:faint:

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Scene #1:

Ron, TOM, gadgetlady Lisah25, Bjean, Green, GeezerSue, leatha_G, TommyO, ousooner, TruBlueSue, and all the other's who have posted to this thread all meet up in Heaven one day.

They greet each other with hugs and kisses (where appropriate) and talk about this thread and how it made them learn more about human nature, and the nature of God and religion, which may be the same thing (come to think of it). They all realize that though they argued tooth and nail, there were genuine relationships forged.

God and Jesus (at his right hand) walk by and are pleased at their endeavor. “See, Father, Adam and Eve might have broken your heart, but these LBT members have filled it with joy, but you already knew that would happen.”

Scene #2:

Ron, TOM, gadgetlady Lisah25, Bjean, Green, GeezerSue, leatha_G, TommyO, ousooner, TruBlueSue, and all the other's who have posted to this thread all meet up in Heaven one day.

They immediately rekindle this thread and a “knock down, drag out” verbal battle ensues, becoming so loud that God and Jesus (at his right hand) have to walk by to referee the battle. When they fail, Jesus issues a degree, “He (or she) who continues this battle shall be sent to join Satan. I gave you guys a break after that LBT melee, but enough is enough.”

As God and Jesus (at his right hand) walk away, a snicker and “I told you so” is heard.

Jesus spins on his heel and says, “No. I told you so” and the LBT crowd is not so crowded anymore.

Epilogue:

Which of these two scenes would you put your money on?:faint:

Scene #3? I'm never showing up in heaven. (Because there isn't one.) Well, the Spa at the Bellagio is Las Vegas may be close, but other than that...

Can I take this to mean it's okay to take this thread from Anti Semitism in France, to a debate over Atheism vs Christianity, but not to the literalness of the Bible?

We can discuss antisemitism in France, or the anti-religion attitude of the French government or the anti-Muslim attitude of many in the French populace, but the Bible being literal or not will never be anymore that an “I told you so”.

TOM I LMAO when I read your two scenarios. G-d likes it when we wrestle with him - again, see Jacob. That's what we're doing here - I'd bet he'd be delighted.

I'll pray for Scene #1, it's much more pleasant. However, those who profess to be Atheists don't believe in God, nor His heaven, so I can't place them in this scene unless they choose to do so as well.

btw, I love you all.. really.

Did you just say, “I told you so”?:faint:

Tom: Tina has nothing to worry about. You are obviously devoted to her. Good man!

And then there's the thing that I didn't mean it in quite the literal sense that you may have interpreted it.

But then again....... these are always nice.

Tom, I would hope for scenario #1 and if there is a God and if he is as wise as they say he will let us all attend.

TommyO

And then there's the thing that I didn't mean it in quite the literal sense that you may have interpreted it.

So it wasn't "word for word" like the Bible?

T-O-M, I'm a fan, too. Your posts are wonderful. :clap2: :clap2:

lethea_g: I did not suggest anything about what can or cannot be discussed here. You are misinterpreting the meaning of the words that I've written.

gadgetlady has been having one heck of a time getting anyone to respond to one specific question that she's been repeatedly asking. If she would really like everyone to focus on that question, perhaps she would have better luck starting a thread about it, being very specific and direct in her verbage.

I have my hands full with the questions I have chosen to address here. I'm not interested in answering her question. Obviously there are some others who feel the same way. But it doesn't mean that there are no people willing to answer the question and expend the energy to discuss it with her.

TOM: The thing is, until I choose to tell you what I mean, you can't PROVE what I mean, one way or the other, now can you?

You can't even prove that it was BJean that was writing it. It might be BJean's DH telling you that BJean loves you. BJean's DH might have chosen to develop a ministry on BJean's behalf, to gather more adoration for BJean since he thinks that is what BJean wants and he loves BJean so much. He knows that making BJean happy is very important because if BJean isn't happy, she can make DH's life a living h----.