Someone recently passed this article on to me, which I posted on another board. It was promptly removed. So sad . . .

Frightening News from France

Once again, the real news in France is conveniently

not being reported as it should. To give you an idea

of what's going on in France where there are now

between 5 and 6 million Muslims and about 600,000 Jews,

here is an email that came from a Jew living in

France. Please read! Will the world say nothing - again - as it did in Hitler's time?

"I AM A JEW -- therefore I am forwarding this to

everyone on all my e-mail lists. I will not sit back

and do nothing." Nowhere have the flames of

anti-Semitism burned more furiously than in France:

Lyon, a car was rammed into a synagogue and set

on fire. In Montpellier, the Jewish religious center

was firebombed; so were synagogues in Strasbourg and

Marseilles; so was a Jewish school in Creteil - all recently.

A Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with

Molotov cocktails, and on the statue of Alfred

Dreyfus in Paris, the words "Dirty Jew" were

painted. In Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a

Jewish football team with sticks and metal bars. The

bus that takes Jewish children to school in

Aubervilliers has been attacked three times in the last 14 months.

According to the Police, metropolitan Paris has seen

10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents PER DAY in the past

30 days. Walls in Jewish neighborhoods have been

defaced with slogans proclaiming "Jews to the gas

chambers" and "Death to the Jews."

A gunman opened fire on a Kosher butcher's shop

(and, of course, the butcher) in Toulouse , France;

a Jewish couple in their 20s were beaten up by five

men in Villeurbanne , France . The woman was

pregnant; a Jewish school was broken into and

vandalized in Sarcelles , France . This was just in

the past week.

So I call on you, whether you are a fellow Jew, a

friend, or merely a person with the capacity and

desire to distinguish decency from depravity, to do,

at least, these three simple things:

First, care enough to stay informed. Don't ever let

yourself become deluded into thinking that this is

no t your fight. I remind you of what Pastor

Neimoller said in World War II: "First they came for

the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I

wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and

I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they

came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up,

because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me,

and by that time there was no one left to speak up

for me".

Second, boycott France and French products. Only the

Arab countries are more toxically anti-Semitic and,

unlike them, France exports more than just oil and

hatred. So boycott their wines and their perfumes.

Boycott their clothes and their foodstuffs. Boycott

their movies. Definitely boycott their shores. If

we are resolved we can exert amazing pressure and,

whatever else we may know about the French, we most

certainly know that they are like a cobweb in a

hurricane in the face of well directed pressure.

Third, send this along to your family, your friends,

and your co-workers. Think of all of the people of

good conscience that you know and let them know

that you and the people that you care about need

their help. The number one best selling book in

France is "September 11: The Frightening Fraud,"

which argues that no plane ever hit the Pentagon."

A command that my church takes "literally", so I guess you see "clear indication" that it should not be....never mind that the Catholic Church is about 2000 years older than you, with a staggering accumulation of history and knowledge at its disposal.

Anglicans also believe in the transubstantiation, as does the Orthodox church.

Yep, what is "clear" to some is not to others.

I believe God cares more about what is in our hearts then how well we follow the rules exactly just so.

Sharing Salvation is not about "LOOK HOW RIGHT I AM, HERE IS MY PEDIGREE AND HERE"S WHAT I KNOW AND HOW IGNORANT ARE YOU FOR NOT BELIEVING WHAT I BELIEVE." It is about accepting people, as Jesus did, right where they are, here and now, and living your life in a way that they want what you have and want to know how you have it. Things shoved down the throat are usually violently regurgitated.

"Love thy neighbor as thyself" does not have a "but" or "except" after it.

:clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

Nicely said.

It is interesting to note that those mocking the authority of the literal, infallible scriptures, and me personally, are athiests, ultra liberals, liberal Christians which does include Catholics, and an old man who is a socialist/Communist, hates the government and country he lives in and worships a God of his own imagining that is admittedly imperfect and fallible. Why should I be suprised! In fact, this raging is exactly what the vWord of God describes in the first verse of the 22nd Psalm.

Jesus said we shouldn't be surprised if "the world hates us for His names sake, because the world first hated Him"! You all just prove Him and the scriptures to be 100% correct, literal and true!

Once again, I must call BS. Show me one post where I mocked the scripture. Where I showed a hatred of Jesus. Or admit you are lying about me. I take that seriously.

Interesting to me that you equate yourself with scripture...:myscared:

I asked is she investigated faith,

That's not entirely accurate. What you asked was:

You claim to be the token "Atheist"! Do you really mean that?? [...] I have done my homework!! Have you??

If you had asked "is she investigated faith", my answer would have been much different. But that's not what you asked. Not only were the words different (which who cares), but the meaning - or at the very least the tone - were completely different.

Hi guys,

I just wanted to respectfully request that we just stop posting.

Ron will always think he better in his head, and all we are doing is beating our head against a wall.

Its late and I am going to try to get up early to go to the Salad bar Catholic Church and pick up a crouton, and a nice red wine vinegrette to go with it.

After all, the only reason why I would want to go to church is to learn about God, and then die and go to hell.

Does anyone know what the record for posts in a thread is?

And I am not talking a thread made for just bumping to bring up one's post count. This thread, for al its faults has been very instructive. I have learned some things. I would assume just about everyone has.

Oh my! I just snorted! You made me snort, you salad-bar Catholic, you!:dance::pound::myscared:

By the way, I wonder how a salad-bar Catholic differs from a salad-bar Protestant. Hmm. Something to think about. And I'm going to post this icon because it's cute and I never noticed it before.:croc:

Oh my! I just snorted! You made me snort, you salad-bar Catholic, you!:dance::pound::myscared:

By the way, I wonder how a salad-bar Catholic differs from a salad-bar Protestant. Hmm. Something to think about. And I'm going to post this icon because it's cute and I never noticed it before.:croc:

That one fits this thread to a "T". :croc:

When "communism" or "socialism" are used negatively, it's usually by someone who doesn't know the difference between communism, socialism, and fascism. Or just someone who straight up doesn't know what they mean, but thinks they do. There's a real definition, and there's the "What lots of people think it means" definition. Outside of primitive man, we've never really seen pure implementations.

Let's talk -isms. I'm tired of religion.

By the way, I wonder how a salad-bar Catholic differs from a salad-bar Protestant. Hmm. Something to think about.

The salad bar Catholics serve real wine and the Protestants serve grape juice. But the Protestant salad bars offer real bread (some of them, at least), while at the Catholics' you only get a wafer that looks/tastes like fish food.

Also, the Catholics can't eat anything else for at least an hour before they approach the salad bar, but the Protestants can.

There is a woman at my church who brings little slips of paper to Mass with her, pre-printed with an admonition not to chew gum prior to Communion, so as to be sure not to break the required fast. She taps people on the shoulder and shoves these little missives at them whenever she observes a gum-chewing transgressor. I call her the chewing gum police. My DH calls her something else.

Maybe its me.. but I think its kinda rude to chew gum in church.

I can just hear the snapping and popping.

ick

Maybe its me.. but I think its kinda rude to chew gum in church.

I can just hear the snapping and popping.

ick

Perhaps, but this woman's admonishments have nothing to do with good manners. She maintains that you cannot take Communion if you have chewed gum in the last hour because, she says, it breaks the fast.

My mother-in-law is almost 87 years old and suffers with dry mouth. She is seldom up to going to Mass any more, but when she does, she sometimes sucks on mints, or chews gum (very quietly), to help alleviate this condition. I intercepted one of this nut-case woman's notes intended for my MIL once. And frankly, it made me furious.

Now, she is rude. ( the gum policewoman.. not your MIL). Somehow I just thought she would target the smackers.

I guess every religion has its wack-jobs.

HA :heh:

We had a kleenex policeman in our Catholic church in Chantilly, Va. The priest went on a five minute tirade one morning about people leaving kleenex on the pews after mass. (It was winter and cold season was underway.)

Now I don't know if I ever did leave a kleenex on a pew, but I have an eye that waters too much so I often carry a kleenex to catch the overflow. After the priest's admonishment, I always figured people who saw me with a kleenex thought I was the main culprit. It did tend to interfere with my feeling comfortable at mass every week.

Ron's not been here for a couple of days. Wonder if he finally gave up the goat?