Someone recently passed this article on to me, which I posted on another board. It was promptly removed. So sad . . .

Frightening News from France

Once again, the real news in France is conveniently

not being reported as it should. To give you an idea

of what's going on in France where there are now

between 5 and 6 million Muslims and about 600,000 Jews,

here is an email that came from a Jew living in

France. Please read! Will the world say nothing - again - as it did in Hitler's time?

"I AM A JEW -- therefore I am forwarding this to

everyone on all my e-mail lists. I will not sit back

and do nothing." Nowhere have the flames of

anti-Semitism burned more furiously than in France:

Lyon, a car was rammed into a synagogue and set

on fire. In Montpellier, the Jewish religious center

was firebombed; so were synagogues in Strasbourg and

Marseilles; so was a Jewish school in Creteil - all recently.

A Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with

Molotov cocktails, and on the statue of Alfred

Dreyfus in Paris, the words "Dirty Jew" were

painted. In Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a

Jewish football team with sticks and metal bars. The

bus that takes Jewish children to school in

Aubervilliers has been attacked three times in the last 14 months.

According to the Police, metropolitan Paris has seen

10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents PER DAY in the past

30 days. Walls in Jewish neighborhoods have been

defaced with slogans proclaiming "Jews to the gas

chambers" and "Death to the Jews."

A gunman opened fire on a Kosher butcher's shop

(and, of course, the butcher) in Toulouse , France;

a Jewish couple in their 20s were beaten up by five

men in Villeurbanne , France . The woman was

pregnant; a Jewish school was broken into and

vandalized in Sarcelles , France . This was just in

the past week.

So I call on you, whether you are a fellow Jew, a

friend, or merely a person with the capacity and

desire to distinguish decency from depravity, to do,

at least, these three simple things:

First, care enough to stay informed. Don't ever let

yourself become deluded into thinking that this is

no t your fight. I remind you of what Pastor

Neimoller said in World War II: "First they came for

the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I

wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and

I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they

came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up,

because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me,

and by that time there was no one left to speak up

for me".

Second, boycott France and French products. Only the

Arab countries are more toxically anti-Semitic and,

unlike them, France exports more than just oil and

hatred. So boycott their wines and their perfumes.

Boycott their clothes and their foodstuffs. Boycott

their movies. Definitely boycott their shores. If

we are resolved we can exert amazing pressure and,

whatever else we may know about the French, we most

certainly know that they are like a cobweb in a

hurricane in the face of well directed pressure.

Third, send this along to your family, your friends,

and your co-workers. Think of all of the people of

good conscience that you know and let them know

that you and the people that you care about need

their help. The number one best selling book in

France is "September 11: The Frightening Fraud,"

which argues that no plane ever hit the Pentagon."

Ron you're talking out both sides of your mouth about patriotism. Where do you get this stuff?

And like Lisa, I have answered your question about my faith as have several others, you just don't like our answers.

Saying that unless we believe what you CHOOSE to believe, we have no basis for our religion or spirituality is just plain silly. Where do you get this stuff???

Are you thick-headed or just a plain ole' fool? I mean, after all, where in the world do you get this stuff?

trashed the premises when he left office.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/26/whitehouse.pranks.02/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Though President Bush said "there might have been a prank or two," a Clinton administration official Friday denied reports of last-minute vandalism at the White House by workers with the just-departed Democratic tenants.

Mark Lindsay, former President Clinton's assistant for Management and Administration, told CNN he toured the White House just before George W. Bush's inaugural Saturday and "did not see one instance of vandalism, not a single one."

He said he saw some 100 computers during the walk-through of the West Wing and the Eisenhower Executive Office Building and has no recollection of the letter "W" missing from the keyboards, as was reported by Republican sources.

Lindsay conceded some offices were in disarray, but he explained, "If people are working around the clock, their first priority is not keeping it the neatest."

There are other reports also that the "trashing" of the White house never happened.

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/t/trashingthewhitehouse.htm

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/stories/01/27/w.h.pranks/index.html

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2001/05/19/MN169709.DTL

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jun2002/gao-j14.shtml

Carlene: Bush is such a bad person, I might not be willing to give him a BJ, but I might be willing to hire someone to do the job. But I doubt very seriously if the new legislature would impeach him, like the Republicans did Clinton. They'd think up some reason why it's okay for Bush because afterall, to say HE is wrong is to be unpatriotic and liberal.

Clinton...lied through his teeth to the entire country,

To quote the bumpersticker: When Clinton Lied, No One Died.

Are you trying to say that you think Bush has been honest during his presidency? :faint:

Yeah, TOM, from the first time I cyber met you I had been wondering about that tag line on your posts. To tell you the truth, it made me nervous until I got to know you a little better. :scared:

I guess we missed it! So what do you base your Christianity on if not the Bible???

I among others answered, both you and Gadetlady. I guess you didn't like the answers?

Is that part of your belief system or is that a typical liberal response??

I wish somebody would give Bush a BJ so we could impeach him! Any volunteers?

There is a danger that was not exposed in this thread.

I just finished watching 60 minutes last from last night on my DVR (Tivo type unit). There was a story about a Nazi concentration camp that was used as a showcase to the world to hide what the Nazis were actually doing. The International Red Cross inspected that camp in 1944 and raved about how well the Jews were being treated. One surviver of the camp (now in his late 70's) said it was easy for the Red Cross and the World to believe (that lie) because they wanted to believe it. Jews have always been treated poorly and thought this thread was named about and seemed to be a complaint against ill treatment of Jews (in France), not much was actually said about the Jews (accept maybe they should accept Christ as their personal savior). It is easier (for some) to look the other way when evil is done to an unpopular group. Or a group that doesn't accept Jesus like us. Though the opening post is supposed to be about the problems of the Jews, it is more about those evil Muslims (who also don't accept Jesus like us).

During our long (155 page so far) conversation, it has been debated whether the God of the Qur'an is the God of the Christians and Jews, and some have been said that the Qur'an is not a real holy book and/or is not as good as the Bible and scriptures from the Bible have been offered up to put the Qur'an down.

This is the first step toward doing to the Muslims in the USA what Hitler did to the Jews in Germany. The Nazis could never have committed those atrocities against "normal" Germans. It was easy however to arrest Jews, Gays and Gypsies, and hold them without charges, without access to legal council and to sentence them without trial (to death). Almost sounds like the BuSh policy regarding non-combat detainees.

It will be very easy to round up the unbelievers of Jesus as soon as another 911 happens. It will be easy to hold the 5 million Muslim/Americans responsible because they do not believe in Jesus like us. They do believe in Jesus, but not as we do, but that will not be good enough to stop the paranoia, fear and the selling of our souls (and civil rights) for security.

The Christian Right political Movement will be right out front calling for the detention of these Godless immigrants, even though they pray more often than Christians do, pray to the same God and it will not whether they were born here or naturalized.

Has anyone ever wondered why I have a Right-wing quote as my signature?

One member (not long after I joined LBT) welcomed me as a Republican to LBT.

Well, I have been waiting for someone to comment on my sig for about 7 months.

"The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life."

Is it a quote by George W. BuSh? Or Jerry Falwell? Or Pat Buchanan?

It is proof of how close we (in the USA) are to another Holocaust.

Re the above comments, I don't know whether you have been hearing about this American government's practice of extraordinary rendition. This is what they did when they took the Canadian citizen, Maher Arar, and deported him to Syria, a country which does permit torture. The aircraft which was carrying him and a few American officials stopped over in Italy in order to refuel while on its way to Syria.

Well, it seems that the government has practiced extraordinary rendition before with other citizens of western countries who are Muslim and who the government believes to have terrorist connections. They kidnap them and fly them to Islamic countries which do practice torture. Because European soil is involved, either for the kidnappings - the CIA is involved - or as stop-overs while planes are being refueled, the Europeans are now becoming officially engaged in this issue. It seems that they are not amused by these antics!

There has been refueling stop-overs in Sweden, Germany and in the case of Arar, the Canadian who was recently paid 11 million dollars by the Canadian government for damages, in Italy. The Italians are particularly annoyed because a Muslim cleric living in Italy was kidnapped by the CIA and sent to Egypt where he was tortured and sexually abused.

Green: Good thing you're not a U.S. citizen, some of the people here would say you're being unpatriotic talking that way about our government.

Yep, it is much easier living in an important country, you know.

Oops! I meant to say unimportant country!!!! My big bad. Mea maxima culpa, but I was running out for a fill appt this AM. (By the way I now weigh 170 lbs. Yippeee!:scared: )

We are dealing with people who saw off innocent peoples heads and film it, and you are so concerned for their well being???

Re the above comments, I don't know whether you have been hearing about this American government's practice of extraordinary rendition. This is what they did when they took the Canadian citizen, Maher Arar, and deported him to Syria, a country which does permit torture. The aircraft which was carrying him and a few American officials stopped over in Italy in order to refuel while on its way to Syria.

Well, it seems that the government has practiced extraordinary rendition before with other citizens of western countries who are Muslim and who the government believes to have terrorist connections. They kidnap them and fly them to Islamic countries which do practice torture. Because European soil is involved, either for the kidnappings - the CIA is involved - or as stop-overs while planes are being refueled, the Europeans are now becoming officially engaged in this issue. It seems that they are not amused by these antics!

There has been refueling stop-overs in Sweden, Germany and in the case of Arar, the Canadian who was recently paid 11 million dollars by the Canadian government for damages, in Italy. The Italians are particularly annoyed because a Muslim cleric living in Italy was kidnapped by the CIA and sent to Egypt where he was tortured and sexually abused.

Green: I love you.

Ron: It isn't surprising that you don't understand Green's point and why we should be scared out of our wits!

Oh I understand his point! I just believe it's blowing things way out of proportion and promoting alarm and scare politics, that's all! Our government is not the bad guy! He has things mixed up!

Ron: It isn't surprising that you don't understand Green's point and why we should be scared out of our wits!

I never thought of "unpatriotic" as an insult.

Green, unfortunately your entire point just flew over some heads.