Someone recently passed this article on to me, which I posted on another board. It was promptly removed. So sad . . .

Frightening News from France

Once again, the real news in France is conveniently

not being reported as it should. To give you an idea

of what's going on in France where there are now

between 5 and 6 million Muslims and about 600,000 Jews,

here is an email that came from a Jew living in

France. Please read! Will the world say nothing - again - as it did in Hitler's time?

"I AM A JEW -- therefore I am forwarding this to

everyone on all my e-mail lists. I will not sit back

and do nothing." Nowhere have the flames of

anti-Semitism burned more furiously than in France:

Lyon, a car was rammed into a synagogue and set

on fire. In Montpellier, the Jewish religious center

was firebombed; so were synagogues in Strasbourg and

Marseilles; so was a Jewish school in Creteil - all recently.

A Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with

Molotov cocktails, and on the statue of Alfred

Dreyfus in Paris, the words "Dirty Jew" were

painted. In Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a

Jewish football team with sticks and metal bars. The

bus that takes Jewish children to school in

Aubervilliers has been attacked three times in the last 14 months.

According to the Police, metropolitan Paris has seen

10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents PER DAY in the past

30 days. Walls in Jewish neighborhoods have been

defaced with slogans proclaiming "Jews to the gas

chambers" and "Death to the Jews."

A gunman opened fire on a Kosher butcher's shop

(and, of course, the butcher) in Toulouse , France;

a Jewish couple in their 20s were beaten up by five

men in Villeurbanne , France . The woman was

pregnant; a Jewish school was broken into and

vandalized in Sarcelles , France . This was just in

the past week.

So I call on you, whether you are a fellow Jew, a

friend, or merely a person with the capacity and

desire to distinguish decency from depravity, to do,

at least, these three simple things:

First, care enough to stay informed. Don't ever let

yourself become deluded into thinking that this is

no t your fight. I remind you of what Pastor

Neimoller said in World War II: "First they came for

the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I

wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and

I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they

came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up,

because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me,

and by that time there was no one left to speak up

for me".

Second, boycott France and French products. Only the

Arab countries are more toxically anti-Semitic and,

unlike them, France exports more than just oil and

hatred. So boycott their wines and their perfumes.

Boycott their clothes and their foodstuffs. Boycott

their movies. Definitely boycott their shores. If

we are resolved we can exert amazing pressure and,

whatever else we may know about the French, we most

certainly know that they are like a cobweb in a

hurricane in the face of well directed pressure.

Third, send this along to your family, your friends,

and your co-workers. Think of all of the people of

good conscience that you know and let them know

that you and the people that you care about need

their help. The number one best selling book in

France is "September 11: The Frightening Fraud,"

which argues that no plane ever hit the Pentagon."

Hey Pal! You want toknow ehy and how I believe what I do so you can criticize, you don't want to be on the receiving end, right.

You say you believe in Jesus! Which Jesus? Certainly not the Jesus of the Bible. Is it the Jesus you made up to be anything you want him to be? If you can question me, why can't I question you??

You know, you don't have to answer questions. I don't really remember anyone questioning your beliefs until you had offered them up. Making them fair game, IMHO, for discussion.

I am very upset with this guy! I am yelling! He tears me apart but crys like a baby if I ask HIM to explain himself.

OK, I have to call BS. I have seen no sign whatsoever of TOM "crying like a baby" at your questions.

I haven't had time to post in the thread (barely even had time to catch up and keep up) but I noticed with interest that Ron stated several times that he didn't want to get into a discussion of different religions (specifically Catholicism) and yet was dragged into it and then attacked -- by pretty much everyone. And yet TOM isn't willing to discuss his beliefs because he's afraid of getting attacked. Maybe it's because he's seen the bloodshed (and participated in it).

Ron has total control over whether or not he chooses to post anything. If he doesn't want to get "dragged into" a discussion, he doesn't have to.

So a story in the Bible is true because the Bible says it's true? It would literally be impossible to fit two of every species on Earth on a boat the size of the Ark, not to mention all the different foods that the different species require. Plus, how would you keep the carnivores from eating all the other species? Just say, "Oh well, one less species"?

That would explain what happened to the unicorns...:rolleyes

Lisa, when I was thanking everyone I forgot to thank you! You've been a little quiet the past day or so and I forgot how much your posts have meant to me. You seem to be such a darling, loving, sensible person. I wish I were as level-headed and sweet as you seem to be.

Yana: The majority of the people posting here do not agree with the people-bashing, finger-pointing, haughty, condescending, preachey posts of one or two of the other people here. That the president of the United States agrees with some of what they have said is an embarrassment to many, many Americans. We are a country that is struggling to find our way right now. We will hopefully return to standing for what most Americans believe in: love, peace, prosperity and sharing.

Lisa, when I was thanking everyone I forgot to thank you! You've been a little quiet the past day or so and I forgot how much your posts have meant to me. You seem to be such a darling, loving, sensible person. I wish I were as level-headed and sweet as you seem to be.

No problem, and thank you so much! Yeah, I have been reading and thinking more the last few days.

Oh, and that pesky real-life thing is butting in on forum time. The nursing facility we have my FIL in had some problems in it's state inspection, and right now is on probation. So we are looking at other places for him.

Yana: The majority of the people posting here do not agree with the people-bashing, finger-pointing, haughty, condescending, preachey posts of one or two of the other people here. That the president of the United States agrees with some of what they have said is an embarrassment to many, many Americans. We are a country that is struggling to find our way right now. We will hopefully return to standing for what most Americans believe in: love, peace, prosperity and sharing.

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"the president of the United States agrees with some of what they have said is an embarrassment to many, many Americans" - What a patriotic American!!! You seem to forget that the majority of Americans voted him into office and still support him!

Lisa, when I was thanking everyone I forgot to thank you! You've been a little quiet the past day or so and I forgot how much your posts have meant to me. You seem to be such a darling, loving, sensible person. I wish I were as level-headed and sweet as you seem to be.

Yana: The majority of the people posting here do not agree with the people-bashing, finger-pointing, haughty, condescending, preachey posts of one or two of the other people here. That the president of the United States agrees with some of what they have said is an embarrassment to many, many Americans. We are a country that is struggling to find our way right now. We will hopefully return to standing for what most Americans believe in: love, peace, prosperity and sharing.

Oh gosh Lisa. My heart goes out to you. I hope you're able to find your FIL a good place very quickly.

My MIL was recently dropped, TWICE, at the nursing facility she's in for rehab from a stroke. Fortunately she is able to communicate normally or we probably would have never known it happened and known to have her checked out for injuries.

I just thought I would throw this out there:

If you need the Bible to be a Christian, you aren't a very good Christian, IMO. True Christianity is about faith in God, believing that Jesus is your savior, helping the less fortunate, and loving your fellow man (no matter what his beliefs or actions are). If you can't do that without a Bible in your hand, that says a lot about where your true priorities lie as a Christian. Your Christianity becomes more of a self-serving devise at that point, instead of a faith and will to help others. Somehow, I doubt God and Jesus would approve.

You seem to forget that the majority of Americans voted him into office and still support him!

Actually, the majority doesn't still support him. His approval rating is very low, in the 30s the last time I saw them. Plus, you can't forget that the majority of Americans voted in the Democrats to Congress, which is another signal that the Republican President is on shaky ground.

It is obvious that what I have had to say is not being received here, and my time is very limited. Therefore, I am not going to spend nearly as much time posting here as I have previously. I am not leaving the board and will be reading the posts, I am just not going to continue this endless debate with some who are so close minded to the truth.

I feel like I have been trying to describe the sunset ot a blind man. No matter what, the blind man just can't see. Not wanting to see is another matter. I have allowed myself to become fustrated by a few who are outright hypocrits and offer nothing by endless opinion unsubstanciated except by only their own ego's. I have also read some great, sincere discussions by some who had real great ideas and are willing to consider ideas with an open mind and heart.

As I said, I will still be around, will occasionally jump in with a post or two, but I am going to stop beating this dead horse and I need to put my time to better use.

I am too busy to write this myself so I thought I would just copy and paste Ron's post and make a few changes. It would appear that it works from my perspective as well all though I am directing it back in the other direction.

TommyO

"the president of the United States agrees with some of what they have said is an embarrassment to many, many Americans" - What a patriotic American!!! You seem to forget that the majority of Americans voted him into office and still support him!

Actually, his approval rating hovers around 30-35% at this point. Bush got 51% of the popular vote, so while it was indeed a majority, there werew many who didn't vote for him.

So, critizing the president makes one un-patriotic?

Oh gosh Lisa. My heart goes out to you. I hope you're able to find your FIL a good place very quickly.

My MIL was recently dropped, TWICE, at the nursing facility she's in for rehab from a stroke. Fortunately she is able to communicate normally or we probably would have never known it happened and known to have her checked out for injuries.

Thanks. We have a couple of options. One is leaving him where he is, unless they close it down, but I'm not comfortable with that one, I don't trust the care.

It's hard, like we discussed on another thread here.

You seem to forget that the majority of Americans voted him into office and still support him!

Not me....I think he's the Anti-Christ.

(That's a joke, for the benefit of those who take themselves way too seriously.)

So, critizing the president makes one un-patriotic?

Obviously.....and criticizing Ron's literal view of the Bible means you aren't going to heaven, so BE CAREFUL. You could end up stranded in hell with the Dixie Chicks!