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Cheat foods not bothering me?!

Ok I've slipped up a few times since I'm suppose to be on liquids full liquids and mushy food. I had my surgery 4-28-11. Well at 1st you're cool cause your're so sick you dont want anything to eat or drink. But around that 3rd day when those hunger pains kicked in I've had a few slip ups. The first time I was hungry and nauseated at the same time so i had a couple of saltines. they went down no problem, The next time I had 4 dorito chips no problem. a few days later I was so hungry so I tried a half cup of cereal with milk and again no problems. The worst is when I tried a small bake n break cookie again no trouble. Well I'm pretty well done with the cheating not for any particular reason other than I just lose interest in the food soon after I start chewing. I did make sure to chew,chew,chew! But anyway none of the cheat food made me sick. Was it suppose to? The only thing I've notice after the surgery so far is that I get crazy hungry but as soon as I start to eat I dont really want it much after that. I stop eating the minute my tummy quits growling. Now I do still have an occasional saltine because the hunger pains make me so nauseas,but its like only 1 1/2 crackers. Why are the hunger pains so strong? Why does the hunger pains make me so sick? Shouldn't the crunchy food irritate me? I'm not eating it anymore either because well I know i'm not suppose to...lol

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Dear Lord, I do hear you... I was banded on April 21si, I have been on solids for a few days now and I did eat some doritos too, I can also eat bread with no problem... This morning I had 2 frozen waffles... nothing.... I am so depressed...

I know the band is just a tool and so on, however, and don't feel the "tool" is helping me much... basically I'm going on will power and is so darn hard... In top of that, I haven't lost weight so I feel like a complete looser...

Just today, reading your post, I'm talking about this... I know every body mean well by giving tough advice... I just don't think I can take it right now...

So... from me to to you.... You are not the only one going trough this... me too, and it sucks!!!

At this point, the band isn't providing you with much help. Until you start getting fills, you will find your hunger is about the same as it was before surgery. It may even take 3 or 4 fills before you really start to experience the true help from the band. Don't let it get you down. The band is not a quick weight loss tool. We don't lose rapidly after surgery. It is not designed to provide that. As you continue on with post-op care, it will come, but right now, the tool of the band is not proving you assistance.

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Hi Eda I want to tell you I've been on this site for only a few days So I will just start off by saying be careful. I have what people may call thick skin so as of right now I can handle what most of the posters say because in between all of the Criticizing,Judging,and the Soap Box Preachers there are some people on here that are able to stick with the topic or at least give you some good tools or advice without making you feel small or feel the need to defend yourself from writing a simple post.

Not Many but there seem to be some!lol I'll try to be one of the actual non judgmental kind encouraging type of person to you. Or at least say I can relate to what your're saying. Somehow everyone took it as me saying I'm just chowing down on any piece of junk I can get my mouth on. I almost wrote a post saying "BACK UP OFF ME!" Even tho its the truth I hope I can make you smile some. Shoot these folks ain't no joke on here!lol Anyway like I had posted earlier I have never felt Hunger pains like this! This is some tuff stuff. I have been working seriously on my weight since 09 The key thing was to make good choices in food to avoid those hunger pains. Feed the diet! lol Well Honey what I'm experiencing right now is so frustrating. It gets on my nerves so bad that I have to eat every few hrs. You can't even stay up late without those doggone hunger pains chasing you. I'm used to eating a good breakfast,full healthy lunch,and a light dinner. I had even got to where i didn't even need any snacks in between my meals just water or light lemonade. So I find all this eating annoying and having to figure out what to eat or what not to eat even more annoying. I'm ok with it because I know its only for a little while and as one person stated above she doesn't do all the diet food and etc. And She's almost at her goal. I'm finding that this is a very true statement among the "honest posters" or people who's had this done. My little sister had this done back in 09 and she says that this is the hardest but shortest part. The part we're going thru right now. I see my sis eat pretty much whatever she wants but she has learned some self-control courtesy of her big sis!lol No for real she was losing but she still wasn't eating good stuff, a bunch of junk. As a result she never had a lot of energy and get this She started losing her hair. I'm a hair dresser and a few times of me pointing this out and fussing at her, snatching hawaian punches out of her hand and putting milk in it,She got with the program!lol Now dont get me wrong she still loves her junk but she eats her protien and veggies 1st then if she has room for the junk which she usually dont then she eats it. (my sissy was even a junkaholic even when we was kids!she gave our mommy fits!)lol Anyway Long story short My Sissy got married last Month and she was the most beautiful size 12/14 bride I had ever seen! she started at size 26/28 like myself used to be. So I'm saying don't let these people on here and dont make yourself feel like the Hamburgular! Like someone else says you got to find what works for YOU. and there is something thats gonna work for you. Not what works for them.Like the girl who loves to tell everyone how many calories are in whatever food we say we ate!lol I'm like chick don't you think I know after all these years of working on my weight all this time how many calories are in 2 oreos! I lost the weight I did from counting calories. So if I decide to have 2 and not the whole sleeve you better believe I know what I'm getting ready to eat.If she keeps doing that thats gonna get annoying to someone. If somebody wants to know how many cals they're eating they can go buy a calorie count book like she did,like I did!lol Its great that, that works for us,but that may not work for someone else. I will say this I never volunteered that info to people unless they asked me. they knew I knew it if they wanted to know the cal count they ASK me I would tell them. Otherwise Please Shut Up!lol Thats an easy way to get cussed out or get your feelings hurt! Hanging over a hungry fat person shoulder telling them how many calories they getting ready to ingest when it sounds like a lion is trapped in their Belly! Or even worse like this chick on here does, telling them after they already feel bad about eating it. Its like kicking someone when they're down! Well I hope I made you feel better or anyone else who is feeling Hungry and frustrated Like myself and just wanted to confess I ate 4 doritos without feeling like its the end of Lapband world. Please! We are gonna be ok! I'm sure someone will eventually ask me to leave this site,cuz I dont seem to fit in with straight lace bandsters thats on here. But until then I hope I can help someone if all I can offer is a "Lets Keep It Real Attitude" Good Luck All!

Hi Eda I want to tell you I've been on this site for only a few days So I will just start off by saying be careful. I have what people may call thick skin so as of right now I can handle what most of the posters say because in between all of the Criticizing,Judging,and the Soap Box Preachers there are some people on here that are able to stick with the topic or at least give you some good tools or advice without making you feel small or feel the need to defend yourself from writing a simple post.

Not Many but there seem to be some!lol I'll try to be one of the actual non judgmental kind encouraging type of person to you. Or at least say I can relate to what your're saying. Somehow everyone took it as me saying I'm just chowing down on any piece of junk I can get my mouth on. I almost wrote a post saying "BACK UP OFF ME!" Even tho its the truth I hope I can make you smile some. Shoot these folks ain't no joke on here!lol Anyway like I had posted earlier I have never felt Hunger pains like this! This is some tuff stuff. I have been working seriously on my weight since 09 The key thing was to make good choices in food to avoid those hunger pains. Feed the diet! lol Well Honey what I'm experiencing right now is so frustrating. It gets on my nerves so bad that I have to eat every few hrs. You can't even stay up late without those doggone hunger pains chasing you. I'm used to eating a good breakfast,full healthy lunch,and a light dinner. I had even got to where i didn't even need any Snacks in between my meals just Water or light lemonade. So I find all this eating annoying and having to figure out what to eat or what not to eat even more annoying. I'm ok with it because I know its only for a little while and as one person stated above she doesn't do all the diet food and etc. And She's almost at her goal. I'm finding that this is a very true statement among the "honest posters" or people who's had this done. My little sister had this done back in 09 and she says that this is the hardest but shortest part. The part we're going thru right now. I see my sis eat pretty much whatever she wants but she has learned some self-control courtesy of her big sis!lol No for real she was losing but she still wasn't eating good stuff, a bunch of junk. As a result she never had a lot of energy and get this She started losing her hair. I'm a hair dresser and a few times of me pointing this out and fussing at her, snatching hawaian punches out of her hand and putting milk in it,She got with the program!lol Now dont get me wrong she still loves her junk but she eats her protien and veggies 1st then if she has room for the junk which she usually dont then she eats it. (my sissy was even a junkaholic even when we was kids!she gave our mommy fits!)lol Anyway Long story short My Sissy got married last Month and she was the most beautiful size 12/14 bride I had ever seen! she started at size 26/28 like myself used to be. So I'm saying don't let these people on here and dont make yourself feel like the Hamburgular! Like someone else says you got to find what works for YOU. and there is something thats gonna work for you. Not what works for them.Like the girl who loves to tell everyone how many calories are in whatever food we say we ate!lol I'm like chick don't you think I know after all these years of working on my weight all this time how many calories are in 2 oreos! I lost the weight I did from counting calories. So if I decide to have 2 and not the whole sleeve you better believe I know what I'm getting ready to eat.If she keeps doing that thats gonna get annoying to someone. If somebody wants to know how many cals they're eating they can go buy a calorie count book like she did,like I did!lol Its great that, that works for us,but that may not work for someone else. I will say this I never volunteered that info to people unless they asked me. they knew I knew it if they wanted to know the cal count they ASK me I would tell them. Otherwise Please Shut Up!lol Thats an easy way to get cussed out or get your feelings hurt! Hanging over a hungry fat person shoulder telling them how many calories they getting ready to ingest when it sounds like a lion is trapped in their Belly! Or even worse like this chick on here does, telling them after they already feel bad about eating it. Its like kicking someone when they're down! Well I hope I made you feel better or anyone else who is feeling Hungry and frustrated Like myself and just wanted to confess I ate 4 doritos without feeling like its the end of Lapband world. Please! We are gonna be ok! I'm sure someone will eventually ask me to leave this site,cuz I dont seem to fit in with straight lace bandsters thats on here. But until then I hope I can help someone if all I can offer is a "Lets Keep It Real Attitude" Good Luck All!

Hi! I am in the same boat as far as being really hungry and figuring out what to eat, how much to eat and eating some things that I probably shouldn't have. I do not have any good advice or anything great to say really, just wanted to tell you that I also know how you feel! I know that I feel pretty bad if I eat something that I shouldn't but i just try to remind myself that I NEED to do a better job at this if I want it to work. It isn't easy, but we can do this! Good luck to you, and don't get discouraged by any comments made, just take the good advice and do the best you can!

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Right! I get to see my doc wed I'm praying I can go to soft solid foods. That I can handle!lol And we have to remember that this period is only for a little while. I had mentioned that regardless of what I eat,even though its not making me sick I can only eat a little of it. Which is cool with me because I kind of have a fear of feeling full I just don't like the pressure of how it feels. That started for me when I was learning not to stuff myself back in 09. I noticed that Eda said she's not having that trouble which I hate for her,but does anyone else have the feeling similiar to mine. What about you wheeler? how does it feel once you do start eating? i got my band on 4-28-11.

I was banded 4/22/11 and once I start to eat, i do get full pretty quickly, at least I know that before the band I could eat my whole plate and then go back for seconds and still be hungry sometimes, and now I seem to be leaving a lot more food on my plate. Don't get me wrong, I am eating a good amount, but when I am full, or if I have eaten too much I tend to get the hiccups or I feel really full right under my chest (like pressure) and it's a little uncomfortable. I know then that I have eaten too much and I need to remeber that my eyes are definitely not as big as my stomach anymore. that is the hardest for me! I feel so hungry that I think that I can eat a lot more, then I am unconfortable if I push it too much. I am only just 4 days in of eating soft mushy foods, but I did eat soft bread this past weeked and it went down just fine. I am not happy with myself that i ate it, but at least I didn't eat the whole loaf like I would before hand! Damn that bread, why is it so tasty? lol! (my mom joked with me and said probably because after eating liquids and mush for 4 weeks, catfood would probably be delicious because it's solid!) lol

Good luck at the doctors tomorrow!

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LOL My lil sis weakness was bread also! She told me to enjoy that bread as much as I could now because after a fill or two Bread and I would become Mortal Enemies!lol Now she only gets to enjoy bread maybe a week or two before time for her next fill. Wheeler I hope you know that its nothing in the world wrong with bread. As long as its in moderation. I'm sure in due time like with my sis your love affair with it will soon end!lol Thanks for wishing me luck on wensday. I'll let you know if my diet gets to change. I tell you one thing tho, i'm ready to murder this lion in my stomach!!!!!

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Oh when I mean I can only eat a small amount its very small like 5 to 6 bites and then i'm done. only problem is in a hour or two I'm starving again and the cycle never ends. For real anything over like a half a cup of food is painful and I just wonder why.

Right! I get to see my doc wed I'm praying I can go to soft solid foods. That I can handle!lol And we have to remember that this period is only for a little while. I had mentioned that regardless of what I eat,even though its not making me sick I can only eat a little of it. Which is cool with me because I kind of have a fear of feeling full I just don't like the pressure of how it feels. That started for me when I was learning not to stuff myself back in 09. I noticed that Eda said she's not having that trouble which I hate for her,but does anyone else have the feeling similiar to mine. What about you wheeler? how does it feel once you do start eating? i got my band on 4-28-11.

Teekii77...I'm having the HARDEST time with this full liquid diet! I swear I am done with Soups and Protein shakes. I crave being able to eat normal food again so bad...I told my husband that I just want to take a bite of spaghetti, chew it to a mush, and spit it out LOL. Of course he said no...

I am in no means trying to be judgmental or anything...so if any of my comments ever come off that way, I apologize in advance!

I'm am a rookie with this whole lap band. Only a week post op and already going crazy with the liquid diet lol.

Not banded yet, but i LOVE LOVE your honesty and your posts! I have noticed from lurking that some of these bandsters are plain mean and snippy when it comes to giving advice.

As a future bander I want an environment where i can say darn i did this without fear of being crucified for my slip up.....Are we NOT all here to help each other get through this?

/my 2cents

Hi Eda I want to tell you I've been on this site for only a few days So I will just start off by saying be careful. I have what people may call thick skin so as of right now I can handle what most of the posters say because in between all of the Criticizing,Judging,and the Soap Box Preachers there are some people on here that are able to stick with the topic or at least give you some good tools or advice without making you feel small or feel the need to defend yourself from writing a simple post.

Not Many but there seem to be some!lol I'll try to be one of the actual non judgmental kind encouraging type of person to you. Or at least say I can relate to what your're saying. Somehow everyone took it as me saying I'm just chowing down on any piece of junk I can get my mouth on. I almost wrote a post saying "BACK UP OFF ME!" Even tho its the truth I hope I can make you smile some. Shoot these folks ain't no joke on here!lol Anyway like I had posted earlier I have never felt Hunger pains like this! This is some tuff stuff. I have been working seriously on my weight since 09 The key thing was to make good choices in food to avoid those hunger pains. Feed the diet! lol Well Honey what I'm experiencing right now is so frustrating. It gets on my nerves so bad that I have to eat every few hrs. You can't even stay up late without those doggone hunger pains chasing you. I'm used to eating a good Breakfast,full healthy lunch,and a light dinner. I had even got to where i didn't even need any Snacks in between my meals just Water or light lemonade. So I find all this eating annoying and having to figure out what to eat or what not to eat even more annoying. I'm ok with it because I know its only for a little while and as one person stated above she doesn't do all the diet food and etc. And She's almost at her goal. I'm finding that this is a very true statement among the "honest posters" or people who's had this done. My little sister had this done back in 09 and she says that this is the hardest but shortest part. The part we're going thru right now. I see my sis eat pretty much whatever she wants but she has learned some self-control courtesy of her big sis!lol No for real she was losing but she still wasn't eating good stuff, a bunch of junk. As a result she never had a lot of energy and get this She started losing her hair. I'm a hair dresser and a few times of me pointing this out and fussing at her, snatching hawaian punches out of her hand and putting milk in it,She got with the program!lol Now dont get me wrong she still loves her junk but she eats her protien and veggies 1st then if she has room for the junk which she usually dont then she eats it. (my sissy was even a junkaholic even when we was kids!she gave our mommy fits!)lol Anyway Long story short My Sissy got married last Month and she was the most beautiful size 12/14 bride I had ever seen! she started at size 26/28 like myself used to be. So I'm saying don't let these people on here and dont make yourself feel like the Hamburgular! Like someone else says you got to find what works for YOU. and there is something thats gonna work for you. Not what works for them.Like the girl who loves to tell everyone how many calories are in whatever food we say we ate!lol I'm like chick don't you think I know after all these years of working on my weight all this time how many calories are in 2 oreos! I lost the weight I did from counting calories. So if I decide to have 2 and not the whole sleeve you better believe I know what I'm getting ready to eat.If she keeps doing that thats gonna get annoying to someone. If somebody wants to know how many cals they're eating they can go buy a calorie count book like she did,like I did!lol Its great that, that works for us,but that may not work for someone else. I will say this I never volunteered that info to people unless they asked me. they knew I knew it if they wanted to know the cal count they ASK me I would tell them. Otherwise Please Shut Up!lol Thats an easy way to get cussed out or get your feelings hurt! Hanging over a hungry fat person shoulder telling them how many calories they getting ready to ingest when it sounds like a lion is trapped in their Belly! Or even worse like this chick on here does, telling them after they already feel bad about eating it. Its like kicking someone when they're down! Well I hope I made you feel better or anyone else who is feeling Hungry and frustrated Like myself and just wanted to confess I ate 4 doritos without feeling like its the end of Lapband world. Please! We are gonna be ok! I'm sure someone will eventually ask me to leave this site,cuz I dont seem to fit in with straight lace bandsters thats on here. But until then I hope I can help someone if all I can offer is a "Lets Keep It Real Attitude" Good Luck All!

I also don't like being talked to like i'm a little kid who doesn't know better. It's patronizing.

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Teekii77...I'm having the HARDEST time with this full liquid diet! I swear I am done with Soups and Protein shakes. I crave being able to eat normal food again so bad...I told my husband that I just want to take a bite of spaghetti, chew it to a mush, and spit it out LOL. Of course he said no...

I am in no means trying to be judgmental or anything...so if any of my comments ever come off that way, I apologize in advance!

I'm am a rookie with this whole lap band. Only a week post op and already going crazy with the liquid diet lol.

Babs88 Girl I feel ya! I think its the fact that you still get so hungry is what makes it the kicker. Now I'm on full liquids and blended food. Its nerve wrecking because i get tired of trying to figure out whats what. My docs nurse did help me out some tho because she did give me more ideas so i wasn't so trapped. Like she told me I could have real mashed potatos,just make sure they are real smooth with no lumps and thin it out just a lil. I could make smoothies with real fruit I just had to puree it smooth. one that i love she said that i could do is 1/2 a banana 1/2 cup of oj and 2 oz of greek yogurt ,and ice blend then strain and enjoy. you gotta make sure you strain those fresh smoothies tho. of course sugar free pudding, yogurt yada yada yada. Oh she said I could have Beans of course you gotta blend them with lots of liquid but the beans and potatos and smoothies do help scave the hunger pains away longer. Luckily for me it doesn't seem as tho my docs post op diet is as streneous as other peoples doc. Just be careful if you mess up let it be because you decided to leave them potatos a lil thicker!lol You can do it Babs. If you do mess up chew the crap out of that food,tell the Lord thank you and go on bout your business! I did slip up on a few foods but really I didnt feel bad about it even tho people on this board tried to make me feel bad about it. I was like forget yall it happened I'm over it. I just didn't want to keep doing it because I know this part is only for a lil while and I really dont want to hurt myself or my band. My Granny fixed me some fresh butter beans today and sweet potatos I blended that food up smooth with the juice she cooked it in and chowed down best I could. No problems! I think the key also is cooking the food yourself and seasoning it well. You won't beleive how good Soup is if you put some more celery salt,onion or garlic powder in it! Being able to cook is what help the most in my prior diet of losing the 70lbs. Just because they say we gotta eat certain foods dont mean we cant cook them ourselves and make it taste like something yummie Goodluck Babs we can do this thang!lol

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I also don't like being talked to like i'm a little kid who doesn't know better. It's patronizing.

Lol yeah Mousek they're pretty good at doing that on this forum,but you know what? we can change that by how we talk to each other. We just have to remember to respond to people how we would want to be responded to. With some compassion and understanding. We should really be like that on websites like this. Because thats what I think thats what we're looking for when you get on these sites. along with support.

Babs88 Girl I feel ya! I think its the fact that you still get so hungry is what makes it the kicker. Now I'm on full liquids and blended food. Its nerve wrecking because i get tired of trying to figure out whats what. My docs nurse did help me out some tho because she did give me more ideas so i wasn't so trapped. Like she told me I could have real mashed potatos,just make sure they are real smooth with no lumps and thin it out just a lil. I could make smoothies with real fruit I just had to puree it smooth. one that i love she said that i could do is 1/2 a banana 1/2 cup of oj and 2 oz of greek yogurt ,and ice blend then strain and enjoy. you gotta make sure you strain those fresh smoothies tho. of course sugar free pudding, yogurt yada yada yada. Oh she said I could have Beans of course you gotta blend them with lots of liquid but the beans and potatos and smoothies do help scave the hunger pains away longer. Luckily for me it doesn't seem as tho my docs post op diet is as streneous as other peoples doc. Just be careful if you mess up let it be because you decided to leave them potatos a lil thicker!lol You can do it Babs. If you do mess up chew the crap out of that food,tell the Lord thank you and go on bout your business! I did slip up on a few foods but really I didnt feel bad about it even tho people on this board tried to make me feel bad about it. I was like forget yall it happened I'm over it. I just didn't want to keep doing it because I know this part is only for a lil while and I really dont want to hurt myself or my band. My Granny fixed me some fresh butter beans today and sweet potatos I blended that food up smooth with the juice she cooked it in and chowed down best I could. No problems! I think the key also is cooking the food yourself and seasoning it well. You won't beleive how good soup is if you put some more celery salt,onion or garlic powder in it! Being able to cook is what help the most in my prior diet of losing the 70lbs. Just because they say we gotta eat certain foods dont mean we cant cook them ourselves and make it taste like something yummie Goodluck Babs we can do this thang!lol

OMGGGG I made instant mashed potatoes a few days ago and the instructions said to thin it out to soupy consistency and wow..it was not yummy.

But it was better than being on broth so I didn't complain. OJ sounds so good right now. Can we have that?

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Not banded yet, but i LOVE LOVE your honesty and your posts! I have noticed from lurking that some of these bandsters are plain mean and snippy when it comes to giving advice.

As a future bander I want an environment where i can say darn i did this without fear of being crucified for my slip up.....Are we NOT all here to help each other get through this?

/my 2cents

GoodLuck MzNelly with your surgery. Hopefully I can hang in here on this forum then we can be a support to one another. But it is some nice humble people on here with loads of info. You just got to take the hits from the "How Dare You eat a choc chip cookie and then confess it on this site"people ,til you find the "girl me too,but here's how I overcame that" people! lol Best Wishes

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You certainly can eat junk food, and I do on occasion. Sure it's fine to have an Oreo on occasion, don't worry. It's ok to mess up. But you have to learn not to justify eating bad things. I do it, oh it's only 1 it'll be fine. It's not good, Not gonna lie, I've been doing it a bit the past 2 weeks, and guess what? The scale didn't move. I think everyone is just saying don't "test" the band. Some people post like "oh I can eat 4 cups of Pasta why is that? The band isn't stopping me" it's because the band doesn't work that way. The band is essentially diet and exercise, but it keeps your from being hungry all the time. Which is a big help! Everyone is just trying to help you. The bottom line is, we are on a diet, you have to watch calories. If you wish to include these things in your diet it's fine. But then some people eat these things and don't lose weight, then they wonder why. I think we are just saying don't get too excited about it. It IS about portion size, but 2 Oreo's is still 140 calories. That's like half a meals worth of calories. 1 cupcake has more calories than a bandster meal. I know it's not eating the whole sleeve, but it's still not a great food choice. You have to put things in perspective.

This is what I do know and I have full perspective from where I'm sitting right now. There is no such thing as bad food.There is a such thing as a better food choice but that depends on who you are and what your specific needs are depending on where you at. I know and I posted that I know what I'm suppose to not have during this phase in the lapband surgery because my tummy needs to heal.Which is why I labled it "Cheat Foods" But you better beleive this, afterwards when I'm able to eat all solids if I decide I want 2 oreos,sister I'm gonna have those two oreos and get on down real happy and smooth. Fully aware of how many cals are in it. If it takes that type of strictness for you then great for you,but being that strict doesn't work well for me or most other people. And I think Its crazy to make people afraid of eating oreos or doritos when we know that in itself is not whats keeping them from dropping the weight. Its how many of those oreos plus doritos you ate in addition to everything else. I'm not justifying anything how is eating a cookie or 4 doritos bad eating behavior. Too extreme. Your're bound to have many mess ups if thats how you look at food. Its a no win situation. Anyway goodluck to you with the way you're doing your bandster thing and goodluck to everyone else who decides to do it differently.

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