Four Golden Rules

[readytoroll 1]

Suzanne Sommers once said something like this: "If I can't pick it, pluck it, milk it or catch it I don't eat it" In other words, whole foods!!!

The queen of infomercials - infomercials selling exercise products and diet fads that fail most and milk the consumers (no pun intended).

It is common knowledge that staying away from foods up and down the isles of the grocery store is how to only buy fresh foods (produce/meats, etc.). But, even at that, you can still end up where we are or have been, if the self control lacks. And, I truly believe that self control is at the core - whether we have chemicals in our brains interfering with that, or we are procrastinators with our health, or we are addicted to foods. You can get overweight on eating too much steak, you can take your chicken home and fry it, you can eat too much butter, take the whole cream and make shakes with the fruit, and the list goes on.

The band tells me that I am full, and if I keep eating I throw up or I feel this terrible pressure that makes is so I feel like I can't breathe. It is awful, and I am new to this - ready learned the hard way, throwing up tuna (gross). I hope when I get to stage 4 that I will have a greater allowance or ability to re-introduce things that I used to enjoy, but this time in moderation.

To what the doctor said in terms of not eating what is advertised on TV - I personally think all surgeons should tell their patients not to watch TV for the first two weeks after the surgery. My gosh, all the Burger King, McDonalds, Tace Bell, and food commercials almost made me grieve and it made me want what I couldn't have. Thank goodness I could not drive a car for days after having it done.

I think doing what the surgeon and their team says is so important, and buying in to what they put in front of us. If it doesn't seam right, then get another Surgery Weight Loss Center involved for a second opinion, but I think it is a life long package we "buy" when we get the lap band. I am impressed with all the success I have read about so far on the boards, and I feel bad for those who is in a place where it does not seem to be working. How can we all help them in terms of suggestions?

Also, can someone tell me how to get this ticker thing working?

[mattie7632 24]

I think it's funny all the contradictory replies to the original post, which happens to be good information from a doctor. AVOID not ELIMINATE.

Every one of us bandsters has broken all 4 of those rules and that's why we all are (or were) fat. Just because we've lost weight doesn't make any of us experts in weight loss. I bet with a few minutes of research, we'd all find that the facts back up what she has posted.

[reverie 49]

I think it's funny all the contradictory replies to the original post, which happens to be good information from a doctor. AVOID not ELIMINATE.

Every one of us bandsters has broken all 4 of those rules and that's why we all are (or were) fat. Just because we've lost weight doesn't make any of us experts in weight loss. I bet with a few minutes of research, we'd all find that the facts back up what she has posted.

I was fat because I ate too much and didn't move enough; simple. Has nothing to do with eating McDonalds or eating white bread.< /p>

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I think it's funny all the contradictory replies to the original post, which happens to be good information from a doctor. AVOID not ELIMINATE.

Every one of us bandsters has broken all 4 of those rules and that's why we all are (or were) fat. Just because we've lost weight doesn't make any of us experts in weight loss. I bet with a few minutes of research, we'd all find that the facts back up what she has posted.

Agreed!

Can you help me with getting a weight loss TICKER? I am completely void of talent in getting this done...LOL.

[mattie7632 24]

LOL, yeah that stupid ticker thing is tricky. It;s www.tickerfactory.com. When you've selected your favorite ticker, you have to save it one of two ways, you should pick the one for blogs, etc. Sorry I forget the exact name of it. Then in lapband.talk, in your profile you copy that whole string of code into your signature. Hope that helps---

Agreed!

Can you help me with getting a weight loss TICKER? I am completely void of talent in getting this done...LOL.

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Testing to see if the ticker shows up.

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I don't understand why it is not working!!

[mattie7632 24]

Okay, I see the code there, I would double check it and see if you missed a character at the end, it's like it didn't close the coding.....

OR it is saved as the wrong type...maybe try to change it to the other one...?

[mattie7632 24]

you got it!

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WOO-HOO, it worked. I picked the first code available instead: the bbCode. Thank you

[mominoc 11]

You quoted me, so I'm guessing that this was in reply to what I said. What I can't figure out is if you're disagreeing with something particular in my post and, if so, what that may be.

As for myself, I'm not rigid with my own eating regime. I hardly have a regime. I pretty much just try to stay under 1100-1200 calories, avoid junk food with the exception to a few treats, and I eat more Protein and less refined carbs. If I want rice or bread, I'll have a few bites. If I want chocolate, I'll have something small and work it into the day's calories. Every week or so, I have a cheat day in which I loosen up on the "diet" even further. This works for me and I hardly feel deprived. I can probably eat in this same way for life without feeling as if I'm on a life-long diet (although when I'm on maintenance, I'll probably be eating somewhat more). Some people have to go cold turkey and that may work for them. Some people cut out major carbs completely and they lose weight fast. What I've been saying is that these rules are generally what most people do anyhow when they lose weight, give or take a rule.

I'm not rigid with my diet, and yet I don't feel the need to proclaim my free will whenever a layman or doctor dares to post dietary advice, unless the advice was targeted at me specifically and it was unsolicited. Just ignore whichever rules or all rules that they suggest if they don't work for you. We understand that you're an adult and that no one can tell you what to do. As far as the poster who countered that this suggestion was wrong because healthy food was sometimes advertised on tv, again, we can make use of our highly evolved brains and understand that the rule wasn't intended to restrict those foods. Surely, we can understand nuance. As most foods advertised on tv are highly processed and unhealthy, either packaged junk or fast-food, this is a good guideline. I follow it generally and I suspect that most dieters do to an even greater degree. If someone were to advise that people intending to lose weight should avoid fast-food, I wouldn't have to say: "This rule's crap! I know there's a fast-food restaurant that has a low-calorie salad!" I understand the basic underlying idea, which is a good one, and I can adapt it to include this low-cal salad.

There may be one or two rules that don't apply to a particular individual; there may be a difference in the degree an individual abides by these rules, but in general the process of losing weight requires a similar kind of behaviour. There are different diets, but the basic underlying idea is usually the same. Unless taken as absolutes, there's nothing controversial or extreme about these rules. As I said, they serve as good guides. The doctor didn't even say "never do this;" they said "avoid." They're along the lines of what most nutritionists would prescribe and what many people do to lose weight or to eat healthily. There may be multiple specific methods of losing weight, but it's not entirely a subjective matter. And some methods are objectively bad ways to go about achieving a healthy diet.

I never quoted anyone. We all do what works best for ourselves. Thanks.

[Birinak 19]

I never quoted anyone. We all do what works best for ourselves. Thanks.

Please see your original post. Thanks.

[mominoc 11]

Please see your original post. Thanks.

Glad you know what works best for you.

[kbklassykimb 23]

Glad you know what works best for you.

Your absolutely right. Some people just like to argue.

[Birinak 19]

Your absolutely right. Some people just like to argue.

Yes, there are also those who don't understand the difference between "you're" and "your." There are all kinds of people, I suppose.

You're correct. I am an argumentative person when I encounter a position contrary to logic or reason. I appreciate debate and I believe that mature adults should be able to argue any issue dispassionately and academically, without resorting to personal attacks or proclaiming offense unnecessarily. If I debate a poster here, I expect that they understand that it is not personal and that I have no anger toward them. And, it's an opportunity for them to show me the ways in which my argument is wrong. I am also a direct person and it's not my style to insult others in a passive-aggressive manner. As you can see above, I just tried your method of speaking and I find that it doesn't suit me much. If I disagree with a person's words or actions, I tell them directly and I explain my reasoning. Mominoc quoted me and I responded asking if she was objecting to something particular in my post. Then, I honestly discussed my opinions on the sentiments she expressed. She chose to respond in a passive-aggressive and falsely bewildered tone, but what is that to me?