In June my church is doing a series where the members get to ask questions the the pastor, and he will be answering them during service. I know there are many non believers around here that make some interesting points when debating religion and I was just wondering if anyone would be willing to list them here so I could submit them. For example one statement I remember reading on LBT was along the lines of why bother praying when God already has his plan-it's not like you can change it. That is certainly something that I would be very interested in hearing an answer to. Anyhow I know there are some very intelligent people aruond here and I would totally be interested in hearing what you had to say. And no I am not looking to take anykind of credit for any questions as it is an anonymous thing.

Again, I am NOT looking for any kind of debate (you know who you are and I have you blocked anyhow) on this thread. I guess I am just trying to look at why people don't believe in a higher power.

Wasa put me on ignore simply because I don't agree with him. We are on total opposite ends of the spectrum. He is an atheist and I am a born again christian. At every chance he gets, he feels the need to tell people that there is no such thing as God, and I do the opposite. He didn't like that I spoke the truth to him, so he is like those Pharasees in the bible who tore their clothes and put their fingers in their ears when Jesus claimed to be God come in the flesh. They just didn't want to hear it. Wasa is like that. He just doesn't want to hear it. He only wants to hear what his itching ears want to hear, not the truth. It had nothing to do with my attitude, cause his attitude was the same, only the opposite belief as mine.

This holier than thou attitude that you feel I have is complete nonsense. I will be the first to tell anyone that I am a sinner and have not lived as I should before God. I am thankful to God for my salvation, because I know that I would be lost without him. There isn't a day that goes by where I am free from my faults. This holier than thou attitude you feel I have is because I am not one to mince words. I tell it like it is. There is no need to sugar coat what God has said. If people hate me, I just remember that God said, "If they hate and reject you, just remember that they hated and rejected me first."

I think i see the problem you cant look at what you have said objectively so any further discussion would be utterly pointless.

You are the type of person that has difficulty looking at the big picture of things and that is fine.

but as for this situation as hard as it is for me i will just have to wash my hands.:thumbup:

Wasa put me on ignore simply because I don't agree with him. "

Uh....your particular God has failed to inform you (via the divine revelation that you are apparently privy to) that Wasa is not a "him".

:thumbup:

HH

Uh....your particular God has failed to inform you (via the divine revelation that you are apparently privy to) that Wasa is not a "him".

:thumbup:

HH

HA! My avatar does make it a real head scratcher!

I have Patty on ignore because I find her rambling, closed minded attitude, and the inability to form an opinion without checking her bible first - beyond annoying. There are lots of people I don't agree with (seen my posts lately? Heh...) but there are only two I have blocked, patty and GadgetLady.

I find the better than thou, my way is the only way, you are allll wrong and I'm the only correct person tedious and belittling. When someone has nothing of value for me I find it a waste of their time to read their posts.

I gotta give you a hats off for being able to tolerate it.

HA! My avatar does make it a real head scratcher!

I have Patty on ignore because I find her rambling, closed minded attitude, and the inability to form an opinion without checking her bible first - beyond annoying. There are lots of people I don't agree with (seen my posts lately? Heh...) but there are only two I have blocked, patty and GadgetLady.

I find the better than thou, my way is the only way, you are allll wrong and I'm the only correct person tedious and belittling. When someone has nothing of value for me I find it a waste of their time to read their posts.

I gotta give you a hats off for being able to tolerate it.

I'm with you i remember the issues that gadget lady brought to my Obama threads.

i think the biggest problem with that attitude is that there is no room for people to live together in their scenario. It is that type of thinking that lead to atrocities such as the crusades, the genocides in Rwanda, Darfur, Kosovo, and other places. yes i have different beliefs and yes i think they are best... but i can force anyone to live a certain way without breaking the commandments that i live my life by. so we all have to learn now to live with each other dispite our differences and have intelegnt and respectful conversations and dialog about said issues.

Wasa is one to talk. She is the one who doesn't feel I have anything of value to say. She admits that and also says it wastes her time to read what I have to say. Who's the disrespectful one? Imagine if I said that I was wasting my time talking with her because she brings me nothing of value. What others have to say, whether they agree with your values and morals and way of thinking, can always bring something to the table. She is the one who is closeminded!

Wasa is one to talk. She is the one who doesn't feel I have anything of value to say. She admits that and also says it wastes her time to read what I have to say. Who's the disrespectful one? Imagine if I said that I was wasting my time talking with her because she brings me nothing of value. What others have to say, whether they agree with your values and morals and way of thinking, can always bring something to the table. She is the one who is closeminded!

how old are you... 10?

how old are you... 10?

I get tired of people being cruel and insensitive to me and saying things about me that simply aren't true. I get tired of people like YOU calling me names and then feeling justified to do so. People who claim to be christians, yet act sooooooooo unchristlike. Who do you think you are trying to tell me that I am judgmental and give me advice about how to be a better witness for Christ and then turn around and call me a bit*h? People like Wasa and you should heed Jesus' advice about taking the plank out of their own eye before they try to remove a sliver from someone elses. This has nothing to do with being 10 (childish), it has everything to do with being kind. All I have ever done on this particular thread was answer some questions as I believe the bible has taught. You didn't like my answers or something? I am done with you. I give you to God. BTW, I'm waiting for your apology.:thumbup: .........yeah right. I didn't think so. You call someone a bit*ch and justify it. Some Christian.

Edited June 8, 200917 yr by pattygreen

I get tired of people being cruel and insensitive to me and saying things about me that simply aren't true. I get tired of people like YOU calling me names and then feeling justified to do so. People who claim to be christians, yet act sooooooooo unchristlike. Who do you think you are trying to tell me that I am judgmental and give me advice about how to be a better witness for Christ and then turn around and call me a bit*h? People likeWasa and you should heed Jesus' advice about taking the plank out of their own eye before they try to remove a sliver from someone elses. This has nothing to do with being 10 (childish), it has everything to do with being kind. All I have ever done on this particular thread was answer some questions as I believe the bible has taught. You didn't like my answers or something? I am done with you. I give you to God. BTW, I'm waiting for your apology.:thumbup:

im sorry but if everyone is saying the same things and has the same issue then its not them ... its you

Patty, Patty, Patty;

Please take my advice.

Go see the Doctor who does your fills.

Ask him to remove a few cc's.

I do believe that your band is too tight....it appears to have cut off the blood supply to your brain.

HH

Patty, Patty, Patty;

Please take my advice.

Go see the Doctor who does your fills.

Ask him to remove a few cc's.

I do believe that your band is too tight....it appears to have cut off the blood supply to your brain.

HH

although kinda funny that's not productive

And you're suggesting that ANY of this dialogue IS productive?

And you're suggesting that ANY of this dialogue IS productive?

stay on the right path she will eventually come around

and even if she never does our integrity will be intact.

flat out poking fun never helps

The problem is with her attitude getting one in return probably wont help the situation.

no matter how good it feels.

More specifically,

"ahem... show some compasion b****! "

You're suggesting THAT comment was somehow...uh..."productive" ?

jeez.....

HH

More specifically,

"ahem... show some compasion b****! "

You're suggesting THAT comment was somehow...uh..."productive" ?

jeez.....

HH

that was meant in the spirit to help someone... i mean really sometimes you need a expletive to enhance a point. I was not trying to make fun or call her out i needed her to hear what i was saying in the context that i was saying it and i didn't want to leave any room for misinterpretation.

if you are in a room with arguing people and some one says ever so elegantly "please simmer down" how quiet do you think it will get?

But if before that some one comes in and said in a loud stern voice "Quiet the hell (or other expletive) down. You will get a much better response.

Furthermore if you were in a bank and it was being robbed and the gunman came in and said in a calm voice. "excuse me this is a robbery would you all please get on the floor and be still" i ask you what you believe the response would be?

When i made that statement it was to make sure that the tone of the entire post was read with absolute clarity.