1. People who have only been banded for 4 months and are calling themselves a failure because they've "only" lost 50lb!

HELLO, people!! We did not have the gastric bypass, what did you expect?? This surgery is not designed to have you drop 30lb a month - that's one of the main reasons, people choose it - because it is a far safer procedure and gives a safer and slower loss rate. 4 calendar months is only 17 weeks and a loss of 50lb is almost 3lb per week, which is WELL ABOVE the average and is a fantastic weight loss. If you've lost 50lb in 26 weeks (6 months), you are losing at 2lb per week and that is a GREAT loss rate. If you have lost 25lb in 6 months, you are STILL in the average of 1-2lb per week, which is a perfectly healthy and sustainable rate! Yes, some people lose faster but even if you've only lost 20lb in 6 months, I'd bet a week's wages that that's better than the six months you had BEFORE banding. Stop thinking negatively and calling yourselves failures! Those numbers are a great success and should be celebrated.

2. People who say "oh I have no restriction but I'm PB'ing and sliming every time I try to eat solid food".

HELLO!! You DO have restriction! What do you think is causing you to PB/slime?? If you are feeling hungry between meals, it is probably because you are drinking your food instead of eating it! Try eating solid foods very very slowly and well chewed - you'll feel much fuller for much longer. If the first meal of the day is troublesome, try having a hot drink (tea, coffee, ff chocolate, whatever you like) 30 minutes before the meal to prepare your stomach. If you're not hungry in the mornings and are starving at night - don't eat in the mornings!! Save your daily calorie allowance for when you ARE hungry and EAT it in solid food, not soft easy foods (unless of course, you are still in the post-op healing phase). If you can't eat solid food (slowly and well-chewed), you don't need another fill - you are too tight!

3. People who obsess about getting "enough protein" and drinking Protein shakes

HELLO AGAIN!! Let me repeat, we did NOT have the gastric bypass. Our bodies are still perfectly capable of absorbing all the nutrients that we eat and there is no need to increase protein intake to compensate. You should be able to get in all the protein you need by EATING, not by drinking supplements. Eat lean hard Proteins if you can, choose tuna or crab meat if you have trouble with hard protein and you will get all you need. Eat good fresh vegetables and you won't need Vitamin supplements. You will also feel much more full doing this and won't be complaining about being hungry all the time!

Whew!! That feels good to get that off my chest! I know my loss rate isn't the fastest out there. It is currently running at 1.7lb per week and that is the rate I'm aiming for. I could make it go faster if I exercised more, but I do an average of 30 mins x 4 days a week (sometimes more, sometimes less) and I am losing at the speed I had planned upon and I'm thrilled with the results so far. My fitness level is noticeably improving, I'm not hungry except at meal times, I'm satisfied after my meals, I only have problems with getting stuck or PB'ing when I stop paying attention when eating and don't chew well enough or eat too quickly (still working on that), and I AM NOT A FAILURE!

Speaking of things that doctors do that annoy me when I read about it here....

What is the deal suddenly with all these people whose doctors tell them to eat solid food as soon as possible? When I was in my intensive research phase, I constantly saw recommendations that would have you at the mushy stage at the 4-6 week period. Not one of the doctors who made my short list recommends doing it any fast. But now I see all these posts where people are completely skipping the mushy phase and are on solid food as early as the 1st week and it's their doctor's recommendation!

Did some new research I'm not aware of come out saying that eating food early doesn't cause slippage or erosion or are these doctors just pandering and selling their clients up the river when it comes to the long-term life of the band?

I agree with that. If the doctors are saying they should go straight to solid foods they are stealing their money!

My doc wants me to do mushies and doing the diet and going back slowly is the only way to do it safely. I cant wait until I am at surgery time:thumbup:

Hmmm....The reason I am here is to learn, ask questions, meet people in the same situation....am I wrong? I just think that people are always needing to feel superior to others. It seems there is a heirarchy even in this forum of people feeling superior to those who are "newbies". Get over yourself.

I dont think anyone feels superior than the other. But speaking for myself some of the topics or questions asked on here really is common sense.

For instance .... " I am 2 days post op I just ate a piece of chicken do you think i hurt my band " ? ? I know your about to say " COME ON " THAT question and many others like it has been asked on here.

Does the fact that we think that is RIDICULOUS make us think we are superior ? ? I know for myself It does not it just makes me think that people dont think and need to use some common sense.

I was a newbie, I asked questions. I am here to repay the favors others did for me. This thread and the RR section is for ANYONE to vent and get out what they want . There is no reason to judge others for voicing their feelings. It does not mean we do not want to help or give advice .

Just my input

Mindy

I understand what you are saying Colton. I just hope that all of the veterans on this site remember what it was like when they were taking this journey on. There are things that we dont know or understand yet, and those things might seem silly for you. For instance, all of the information that I read says that I should be drinking protein shakes and taking vitamins to make sure that I get the correct nutrition. But, the person who posted this thread says that it drives them batty when people are worried about protein intake and drinking protein shakes. I dont understand why they think that is abnormal when this is what I've been told time and time again??????????

I have to agree- as part of the pre op process, we are told to find a protien drink we like- I can only assume that is for the first week post op, of liquid diets only- once solids and mushies are introduced, the protein drink amount can most likely be lessened, as your protein intake is taken over by the mushies and solid food. Thank God! I can't imagine drinking those drinks too much longer than a week or so! (My Dr doesnt require a pre op diet, but for my own good, I'm doing it..)

Okay, I have one that has been annoying me for a long time!

Ever read threads where the title says:

Help!!! Having potty problems!

HELP!!!!!! OMG I CAN'T GO POO POO

My tummy hurts really bad!

These threads make me crazy. Since when does banding cause otherwise normal adults to revert back to 6 year old English skills? What rational adult calls their banded stomach a tummy and what sane person over the age of 12 calls their bathroom issues poo poo or potty help?

I don't even respond to those threads. As far as I am concerned if a child is posting they need to ask their parents for their bathroom help.

That's my rant for the day.

:leaving::sneaky:

what a great giggle to start the day.

I think it's time to move on. Complaining has it's place, then we need to move on. There forums are to valuable to us to have us focus on what we don't like. Just skip what you don't like, and move on to the things that are useful.

I guess I'm complaining too, but enough....

My computer keeps sending me back to this thread, but it's time for me to move on.

I understand what you are saying Colton. I just hope that all of the veterans on this site remember what it was like when they were taking this journey on. There are things that we dont know or understand yet, and those things might seem silly for you. For instance, all of the information that I read says that I should be drinking Protein shakes and taking Vitamins to make sure that I get the correct nutrition. But, the person who posted this thread says that it drives them batty when people are worried about protein intake and drinking Protein Shakes. I dont understand why they think that is abnormal when this is what I've been told time and time again??????????

The Protein shake and Vitamin supplement emphasis seems to be recommended exclusively by US doctors. I ran a poll on it recently, and found only one Australian who said they had been given that recommendation. Here, while they might suggest Meal Replacement shakes like Optifast for the pre-op diet and during the liquid phase of the post-op healing, once the healing is done, the emphasis is on getting good nutrition from a balanced diet of solid foods. The advice I get says that if you find that you can't eat solid foods and need to subsist on protein shakes, you are probably too tight.

Personally, I think the US doctors recommend the protein and vitamin supplements because they are far more familiar with the bypass and lump lapband patients in with gastric bypass patients, who do need such additions. In Aus, the bypass is very rare - 98% of all WLS are lapband, only 2% bypass or other WLS types.

Well, I'm jumping into this thread after only having read the first page and the last, so if people not reading the entire thread before they post is driving someone batty, I apologize in advance :wink_smile:

But..........

What's driving me batty lately is people overeating and/or binging and actually boasting about it in threads . I see this way more often than I'd like to.

In fact, I again just saw a thread like this. The poster was apparently so proud of herself (himself?) for being able to overeat, that they put up a joyful thread solely devoted to this topic .

What on earth is up with that? Why would people who want to continue overeating (and indeed are very proud of doing so) even bother to have weight loss surgery? Does this make any sense at all?

Yeah thats terrible.

Well, I'm jumping into this thread after only having read the first page and the last, so if people not reading the entire thread before they post is driving someone batty, I apologize in advance :wink_smile:

But..........

What's driving me batty lately is people overeating and/or binging and actually boasting about it in threads . I see this way more often than I'd like to.

In fact, I again just saw a thread like this. The poster was apparently so proud of herself (himself?) for being able to overeat, that they put up a joyful thread solely devoted to this topic .

What on earth is up with that? Why would people who want to continue overeating (and indeed are very proud of doing so) even bother to have weight loss surgery? Does this make any sense at all?

You know, it's one thing when people do it because of a disorder, an eating disorder. But to boast about it tells me they weren't really ready to have surgery just yet. It's a great way to cause a slip or dilation. :tt2:(

The Protein shake and Vitamin supplement emphasis seems to be recommended exclusively by US doctors. I ran a poll on it recently, and found only one Australian who said they had been given that recommendation. Here, while they might suggest meal replacement shakes like Optifast for the pre-op diet and during the liquid phase of the post-op healing, once the healing is done, the emphasis is on getting good nutrition from a balanced diet of solid foods. The advice I get says that if you find that you can't eat solid foods and need to subsist on protein shakes, you are probably too tight.

Personally, I think the US doctors recommend the protein and vitamin supplements because they are far more familiar with the bypass and lump lapband patients in with gastric bypass patients, who do need such additions. In Aus, the bypass is very rare - 98% of all WLS are lapband, only 2% bypass or other WLS types.

My doc does NOT want us "drinking our Calories" after our inital post op 6 weeks. He wants us to be eating solid protein . Other than when we have our fills and are on liquids . He does not want the calories from protein shakes or milk shakes ect. big no no for him .

Mindy

I think it's time to move on. Complaining has it's place, then we need to move on. There forums are to valuable to us to have us focus on what we don't like. Just skip what you don't like, and move on to the things that are useful.

I guess I'm complaining too, but enough....

My computer keeps sending me back to this thread, but it's time for me to move on.

What drives me nuts is people who dont understand they're in rants n raves! If you dont like it, dont read it, its simple. Go to another forum.

Ah, why not even "skip what you dont like and move onto things that are useful"?

Also if the computer keeps taking you back to this thread you can " Unsubscribe yourself from this thread !

And well said Jachut !!!

Mindy

Fanny, sorry I have been away or I would have responded sooner. Apology accepted and returned.

Why is it that, in the R&R section, people are aloud to only rant about certain things!!! For example if someone says "I hate when people ask dumb questions" For many, that type of ranting is fine. Now on the other hand when someone makes a statement like this "I hate it when people tell other people they are asking dumb questions" the response often goes something like this. "This is the R&R section if you don't like it piss off" Seems to me if this is the Rants and Raves section one should be able to rant about whatever they choose.

It all comes back to my original provocation, you can rant however you want just don't tell me how to rant.

Now on the other hand if you don't like what I just said then don't read it, this is the Rants and Rave section don't ya know! :thumbup: