1. People who have only been banded for 4 months and are calling themselves a failure because they've "only" lost 50lb!

HELLO, people!! We did not have the gastric bypass, what did you expect?? This surgery is not designed to have you drop 30lb a month - that's one of the main reasons, people choose it - because it is a far safer procedure and gives a safer and slower loss rate. 4 calendar months is only 17 weeks and a loss of 50lb is almost 3lb per week, which is WELL ABOVE the average and is a fantastic weight loss. If you've lost 50lb in 26 weeks (6 months), you are losing at 2lb per week and that is a GREAT loss rate. If you have lost 25lb in 6 months, you are STILL in the average of 1-2lb per week, which is a perfectly healthy and sustainable rate! Yes, some people lose faster but even if you've only lost 20lb in 6 months, I'd bet a week's wages that that's better than the six months you had BEFORE banding. Stop thinking negatively and calling yourselves failures! Those numbers are a great success and should be celebrated.

2. People who say "oh I have no restriction but I'm PB'ing and sliming every time I try to eat solid food".

HELLO!! You DO have restriction! What do you think is causing you to PB/slime?? If you are feeling hungry between meals, it is probably because you are drinking your food instead of eating it! Try eating solid foods very very slowly and well chewed - you'll feel much fuller for much longer. If the first meal of the day is troublesome, try having a hot drink (tea, coffee, ff chocolate, whatever you like) 30 minutes before the meal to prepare your stomach. If you're not hungry in the mornings and are starving at night - don't eat in the mornings!! Save your daily calorie allowance for when you ARE hungry and EAT it in solid food, not soft easy foods (unless of course, you are still in the post-op healing phase). If you can't eat solid food (slowly and well-chewed), you don't need another fill - you are too tight!

3. People who obsess about getting "enough protein" and drinking Protein shakes

HELLO AGAIN!! Let me repeat, we did NOT have the gastric bypass. Our bodies are still perfectly capable of absorbing all the nutrients that we eat and there is no need to increase protein intake to compensate. You should be able to get in all the protein you need by EATING, not by drinking supplements. Eat lean hard Proteins if you can, choose tuna or crab meat if you have trouble with hard protein and you will get all you need. Eat good fresh vegetables and you won't need Vitamin supplements. You will also feel much more full doing this and won't be complaining about being hungry all the time!

Whew!! That feels good to get that off my chest! I know my loss rate isn't the fastest out there. It is currently running at 1.7lb per week and that is the rate I'm aiming for. I could make it go faster if I exercised more, but I do an average of 30 mins x 4 days a week (sometimes more, sometimes less) and I am losing at the speed I had planned upon and I'm thrilled with the results so far. My fitness level is noticeably improving, I'm not hungry except at meal times, I'm satisfied after my meals, I only have problems with getting stuck or PB'ing when I stop paying attention when eating and don't chew well enough or eat too quickly (still working on that), and I AM NOT A FAILURE!

But...but...but I'm known far and wide for my tactfulness and subtlety!! *bats eyelashes innocently*

HEY! Me too! We have something in common!

Yep, my doc was one of those that let her patients skip ahead on the diet. I ate pureed stuff while I was in the hospital, and I had scrambled eggs the day after surgery. Now I really wish I'd paid more attention to the stuff that was said on the board about the post-op diet. If I'd known then what I know now, I would have said, "No thanks!" when the doc told me I could eat solid food whenever I started to feel hungry again.

As long as we're bitching... a new pet peeve -- people who have fallen for the "you must drink 64 oz. of water" myth. :party: It bugs because there is no study that supports the recommendation and several that show that everyone's water needs are different and that many don't need that much.

As long as we're bitching... a new pet peeve -- people who have fallen for the "you must drink 64 oz. of water" myth. :party: It bugs because there is no study that supports the recommendation and several that show that everyone's Water needs are different and that many don't need that much.

Water isn't my pet peeve. "STARVATION MODE!" The concept that "I must eat more calories so I can lose weight faster!" Sheesh......

As my surgeon says, he's yet to meet a morbidly obese person in starvation mode.

As long as we're bitching... a new pet peeve -- people who have fallen for the "you must drink 64 oz. of water" myth. :cry_smile: It bugs because there is no study that supports the recommendation and several that show that everyone's Water needs are different and that many don't need that much.

My surgeon and dietician suggested this, and I do this to the best of my ability. I can tell the difference between when I do drink plenty of water during the day and when I don't. Sometimes a little "self-study" is in order. :hurray:

I can tell the difference between when I do drink plenty of Water during the day and when I don't.

"Plenty of water" isn't "exactly 64 oz". Everyone's water needs are different and they vary throughout the day and the week. The idea that everyone needs to drink 8 - 8 oz glasses of water a day -- and that it MUST be water, other liquids don't count -- is just crazy.

Personally, I feel good with about 40-50 oz. of Fluid. Any more than that and I'm peeing every 2 seconds and feel kind of bloated and my stomach gets that "Thanksgiving" feeling where you know you put too much in it.

"Plenty of water" isn't "exactly 64 oz". Everyone's Water needs are different and they vary throughout the day and the week. The idea that everyone needs to drink 8 - 8 oz glasses of water a day -- and that it MUST be water, other liquids don't count -- is just crazy.

Personally, I feel good with about 40-50 oz. of Fluid. Any more than that and I'm peeing every 2 seconds and feel kind of bloated and my stomach gets that "Thanksgiving" feeling where you know you put too much in it.

Of course, which is why I said a little self-study is in order.

"Plenty of water" isn't "exactly 64 oz". Everyone's Water needs are different and they vary throughout the day and the week. The idea that everyone needs to drink 8 - 8 oz glasses of water a day -- and that it MUST be water, other liquids don't count -- is just crazy.

Personally, I feel good with about 40-50 oz. of Fluid. Any more than that and I'm peeing every 2 seconds and feel kind of bloated and my stomach gets that "Thanksgiving" feeling where you know you put too much in it.

I have to admit that I am a fan of plenty of "fluids" during weight loss. More than most probably drink.

When you burn fat the burned fat turns into chemicals that are not pooped out, but excreted through liquids such as urine, saliva... and actually breathing too. It really is quite important to drink a lot of fluids during weight loss so you keep flushing your renal system. I think people do realize that if they put Crystal Light in their water, that counts too. LOL

So does coffee! Doesnt it? Please?

I am very big on drinking the 64 oz of Water a day. If I don't, I get consitpated.

The thing about this thread is that people do things their own way. If they ask for advice, and then someone gives it, they shouldn't get upset or justify their behavior when someone else offers an opinion.

Protein drinks work great for me. I get sick of chewing and I like the way they taste. But I don't complain about being hungry. If I am hungry, I eat. I do try to force the water because if I don't, it's pretty

darn painful. I will fully admit I don't eat the veggies I should because I am just not hungry.

Jachut, keep one eye on the coffee consumption (assuming we're talking about caffinated). Caffine can be a pretty stout diuretic (but I think you know this. I've read some of your posts on food / nutrition and you seem pretty sharp) and can lead to fluid loss if taken to an extreme.

Jachut, keep one eye on the coffee consumption (assuming we're talking about caffinated). Caffine can be a pretty stout diuretic (but I think you know this. I've read some of your posts on food / nutrition and you seem pretty sharp) and can lead to Fluid loss if taken to an extreme.

That is true and it's not. If someone is used to caffeine it will not act as a diuretic like it will to someone that never consumes the stuff.

Oh, I know I drink too much coffee. But not ridiculous - like 5 cups a day and its only instant, not strong brewed stuff. I might buy a cappucino every second day or so. I also know its a bit of a diuretic. But I drink other fluids too, I was only joking a bit back there. I drink wine as well, hehehehe.

But I must be OK coz I only pee once every three days, right?

Edited May 16, 200818 yr by Jachut

That is true and it's not. If someone is used to caffeine it will not act as a diuretic like it will to someone that never consumes the stuff.

Oh? I knew that a tolerance can develop to the CNS-stimulant effect, but I wasn't aware that a tolerance could be developed towards the diuretic action of any of the methylxanthines. Of course, it's been a loooooong time since I've been in school, so I could well be wrong.

I did a paper on the use of caffeine in the treatment of BPD in newborns. That was back when sulfa drugs were all the rage ( J/K......I'm not that antiquated)

I get sick of chewing and I like the way they taste.

First of all, you are my hero. I wish I could get sick of chewing... hahahaha.

Second of all, I agree with everything OP said........aside from my seemingly annoying obsession with high protein/low carb bit. Sort of, that is. It seems to be working for me. What can I say? Meh. haha.