You all know how I would vote. So lets see how many like me are out there.

I AM ASTONISHED AT THE FOLLOWING VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eygv8qEkiFE

Watch all the way through. Amazing!

I AM ASTONISHED AT THE FOLLOWING VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eygv8qEkiFE

Watch all the way through. Amazing!

OH my gosh.... Margaret Sanger lives!

I AM ASTONISHED AT THE FOLLOWING VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eygv8qEkiFE

Watch all the way through. Amazing!

OMG! Unbelievable!:blushing:

Anyone ever know of a woman who was unable to get a much, much needed abortion, who committed suicide? I do.

I didn't watch the video because I probably do not have the stomach for it.

I didn't watch the video because I probably do not have the stomach for it.

It's not gory at all. There are no photos of anything abortion-related at all. It's all voice recordings and typed text. You should watch it.

Okay. Thank's for the info!

Anyone ever know of a woman who was unable to get a much, much needed abortion, who committed suicide? I do.

Anyone know of women who have been beaten or murdered because they're pregnant? I do.

Every woman's situation is not ideal for bringing a child into the world... Some women would not choose abortion; some women (like the girl who committed suicide) should not.

power396 first of all whats this got to do with lapbands?second,no one cares about your black and white view of the world.I dont believe in abortion except in case of health or rape issues but seeings how i'm not a women it's not my place to say one way or the other.until you are pregnant shutup and get a new hobby.

power396 first of all whats this got to do with lapbands?second,no one cares about your black and white view of the world.I dont believe in abortion except in case of health or rape issues but seeings how i'm not a women it's not my place to say one way or the other.until you are pregnant shutup and get a new hobby.

Tripod, I see that you are new, so I will suppress my first impulse to scold you for such a rude post. This section of LBT is called "Rants and Raves" and it means ANY subject can be discussed, no matter how far removed from lap band issues. Everyone has a right to state their opinion and should never be told to "shut up". You can disagree all you want and you can debate and discuss, but please don't make a judgment that "no one wants to hear your views" just because they don't jibe with yours. We all get to express ourselves here.

Tripod65 was completely out of line and owes you an apology. There are some women who have been on this thread for a very long time (for Eg BJean) and although I do not agree with much of anything she says she has never been rude or disrepectful to anyone even if they have very differing opinions. My hat is off to her and others who can logically and sometimes even emotionally debate this topic yet maintain their respect for others and their opinions. Tripod you do not belong on this topic because obviously you have an inability to repectfully and intelligently convey your point of view! You owe L8BloomR an apology or stay out of this thread!

Tripod65 was completely out of line and owes you an apology. There are some women who have been on this thread for a very long time (for Eg BJean) and although I do not agree with much of anything she says she has never been rude or disrepectful to anyone even if they have very differing opinions. My hat is off to her and others who can logically and sometimes even emotionally debate this topic yet maintain their respect for others and their opinions. Tripod you do not belong on this topic because obviously you have an inability to repectfully and intelligently convey your point of view! You owe L8BloomR an apology or stay out of this thread!

Thank you, Tink, I appreciate your back-up. Just to clarify, Tripod was speaking to Power396 and I was responding to his rude post. But no matter who he was addressing, your response was perfect and I agree wholeheartedly! Thank you again for your thoughtful post.

I have to respectfully say that tripod was just expressing his (or her?) opinion too. It is Rants 'n Raves, afterall, and sometimes some posters have such inflamatory and offensive ways of expressing their very biased views, they're practically begging for an aw... "shut up" response. I think it just slips out, as if we were speaking face to face. We might want to take it back but it's too late. That's the whole point of this site, we don't have to take stuff back, we can rant and rave and slug it out all we want. No one is forced to participate in any way.

Thanks very much for your kind words tink. I do enjoy Rants 'n Raves even though I can become way too passionate sometimes and go overboard. This is a subject that is very important to me - as important as it is to those who have the other viewpoint, like you and LBloom. I find it impossible to NOT participate, in fact. I'm drawn back into this thread almost every week. Nothing really changes, but I can't help myself. I witnessed too much heartbreak and insanity when abortion was illegal. I can't abide the idea of women having politicians and others make decisions for them about their lives and those of their unborn children.

I too am just as passionate about this topic as you are and I have read every single post to this thread. Like I said I do appreciate your intelligent approach to a very emotional topic and although it is rants and raves I dont believe that anyone should ever take a rude approach to such a serious topic. So you see BJean we finally found something we can agree on! I appreciate you and your insight even though you nor I will ever come over to the others side. His rude response really in the scope of things has very little effect on this topic (thank God)! I think people like you and I are the ones who will be most influential to anyone who may be on the fence! Thank you for being who you are!

I too am just as passionate about this topic as you are and I have read every single post to this thread. Like I said I do appreciate your intelligent approach to a very emotional topic and although it is rants and raves I dont believe that anyone should ever take a rude approach to such a serious topic. So you see BJean we finally found something we can agree on! I appreciate you and your insight even though you nor I will ever come over to the others side. His rude response really in the scope of things has very little effect on this topic (thank God)! I think people like you and I are the ones who will be most influential to anyone who may be on the fence! Thank you for being who you are!

Great, great post Tink! I agree with you that even in Rants and Raves, there are basic rules of engagement. I believe Tripod broke them in his inflammatory remarks.

BJean, you and I have respectfully done battle many, many times yet we have never told each other to "shut up" or go away or that no one wants to hear the other. The moderators on LBT have chastized others (and suspended some) for saying similiar things and I was just educating Tripod about the rules on this forum. No matter how someone feels about a subject, there is no reason to be so harsh or nasty. IMHO....

power396 first of all whats this got to do with lapbands?second,no one cares about your black and white view of the world.I dont believe in abortion except in case of health or rape issues but seeings how i'm not a women it's not my place to say one way or the other.until you are pregnant shutup and get a new hobby.

Posts in the RnR don't need to have anything to with lapbands. This is our OFF TOPIC area, as indicated in the description for the forum.

Some people do care about his view. I may disagree with it, but I'm glad we live in a country where he can have it. Please don't proffer yourself as representing everyone. You voiced your view, so you must assume someone cares. Perhaps he did the same.

Please refrain from witty comments such as "shut up." This is our debate area, and even if we vehemently disagree with someone, we do it respectfully, not childishly. BTW, personal attacks are not tolerated here. Attack the idea until you're blue in the face, but don't attack the person.

Thanks and continue to enjoy the thread. :biggrin:

Edited March 17, 200818 yr by Wheetsin