You all know how I would vote. So lets see how many like me are out there.

It is interesting to note that those who advocate abortion almost always are against the death penalty because it is 'cruel' and 'unreasonable'. Let's see if I understand that. They don't want a convicted killer executed, but they do want innocent babies killed if they may become an inconvenience to the living. I believe such non-thinking proves that reading the New York Times and the Washington Post has a tendency to rot the brain of liberals.

Nope, no babies should be killed or starved to death. Embryos are not babies, I am not sure at what point a fetus becomes a baby, I think around 5 months. An embryo does not have the development neccesary to scream or be aware of pain. In theory I don't believe that capital punishment is right, however there are some situations that I have a hard time disapproving.

Your statements are so blind. If you were to even say "some liberals" they would be a lot closer to truth, but basically they are just very presumptive and sound ignorant. If that is thinking, PLEASE, just let my brain rot.

Corliss

Yay Corliss!

I forgot to mention you and Cleo'sMom when I bragged on people's posts. You both sound like very bright and aware women. You bring so much to the table. I love your posts!!!

Yay Corliss!

I forgot to mention you and Cleo'sMom when I bragged on people's posts. You both sound like very bright and aware women. You bring so much to the table. I love your posts!!!

Thank you. You do too. Your posts are well thought out and intellegently written. Those who don't have that ability (or the facts on their side) have to resort to broad generalizations, emotional buzzwords, being judgemental and lies.

I think I bring emotion to the table. You are great at posting facts. And it is very impressive.

So right! It amazes me that people can be so self rightous. Those who take the bible so literally conveniently leave out the parts that hold themselves accountable for their failures or reproach them for their acts especially of condemantion. If they want to celebrate their psuedo-piety, if they want to have their lives ruled by fear, that is okay for them, but I don't need it and don't try to force it on me or my kids or grandkids.

Corliss

what are you talking about? Are you saying that I don't hold myself accountable for my failures?

What fear rules my life?

A person nor government can tell a woman what to do to her own body. Now...abortion should NOT be a birth control. Just because a girl gets pregnant, and doesn't want the child for no reason, she shouldn't just get an abortion. But on the other hand, if I was a victim of rape or incest, and I cannot say that I wouldn't think twice about an abortion. I couldn't live with myself knowing I had a child growing inside of me that was forced (rape) on me.

And yes, I am against the death penalty because Jesus said that He will condemn those who did not take care of the hungered, naked, thirsty, sick and in prison. (Matthew 25:35-46) "For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, 'Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of my brethren, ye have done it unto me.' Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, 'Depart from me, ye cursed into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels."

Now..I know everyone can interpret that different, but that's just my view. Nor am I trying to persuade anyone to agree with me. Just my 2 cents...

How does that verse suggest that the death penalty is wrong? Just because people are in prison who need us to care for them? We certainly aren't going to put 'every' prisoner to death. Just those who murder.

TN_Girl, I get it and I agree wholeheartedly.

PG...The reason I interpret it like that is because the death penalty is not taking care of a prisoner.

Thank you, BJean! This is totally off topic, but I love your name. Only because I show American Saddlebred show horses and Road Ponies, and my favorite Road Pony is named Beaulah Jean (who is the current and 2 time World Grand Champion, the highest title you can get). Random..I know lol

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what are you talking about? Are you saying that I don't hold myself accountable for my failures?

What fear rules my life?

Yes, as in telling the truth. Specifically, "thou shalt not bear false witness." The blanket statements you make about liberals are false witness. You are not the only one, there are loads of folks who go about ranting this drivel. As far as fear goes, you are obviously afraid to examine evidence which is contrary to your precious belief system. You don't have to make choices you can just go right along and do as you are taught. You don't have to test your faith, because you never seriously consider any alternatives. There is lots of security there.

What about feeding the hungry and comforting the sick? Visiting the prisoner? Clothing the poor? How high on your list of priorities are those things. Many religious conservatives feel that these very actions are sinful and result in "taking care of those who won't take care of themselves."

I said earlier I don't generally bother to discuss this with people who claim Biblical authority, and I probably should not go any further here.

Yay Corliss!

I forgot to mention you and Cleo'sMom when I bragged on people's posts. You both sound like very bright and aware women. You bring so much to the table. I love your posts!!!

TY BJ. I am so glad to read so many thinking peoples statements on these issues. I just get so tired of man's inhumanity to man, judgementalism and condemnation of one another all in the name of Christ. That is not the Christ whose life I attempt to learn from at least on my better days.

Corliss

If any of you saw Michael Moore's "Capitalism: A Love Story" there is a part in which Jesus is portrayed and he comes across a leper on a stretcher. He tells him he cannot cure him because he has a pre-existing condition.

Just as conservatives are trying to rewrite history (particularly the bush era) they are trying to re-write the bible to make Jesus this hard hearted conservative, when in fact he didn't travel with the rich, the powerful, the well-connected, but rather was among the poor, the sick, the desperate, the sinners.

If any of you saw Michael Moore's "Capitalism: A Love Story" there is a part in which Jesus is portrayed and he comes across a leper on a stretcher. He tells him he cannot cure him because he has a pre-existing condition.

Just as conservatives are trying to rewrite history (particularly the bush era) they are trying to re-write the bible to make Jesus this hard hearted conservative, when in fact he didn't travel with the rich, the powerful, the well-connected, but rather was among the poor, the sick, the desperate, the sinners.

Thank you so much for those statements. They are so true and are a concise explanation of is wrong with America today! Christ ministered outside the gates. He acted up and was crucified due to his revolutionary teachings and behaviors. Conservative Christians just don't get it.

Corliss

Corliss: "Thank you so much for those statements. They are so true and are a concise explanation of is wrong with America today! Christ ministered outside the gates. He acted up and was crucified due to his revolutionary teachings and behaviors. Conservative Christians just don't get it."

Ironic that I was off posting on another thread on the same topic. I'm not even sure which thread it was since several of them have turned into religious rants.

TNGirl: Beaulah - gotta love it. I actually knew a woman named that when I was a wee little lassie. For some reason the woman's face reminded me of a horse. Hee, hee.