I don't know if anyone has heard the news, but there is a claim that the boxes that Jesus and his family were buried in have been found.

"While the Bible tells the story of Jesus and his resurrection, this box could show physical evidence that he existed, was buried and that he had a son, Judah."

While that might upset those that believe in the word for word Bible, it will not interfere with my faith, because, I don't care if it was the human body of Jesus that was resurrected or a hologram type image that one could put their hand through. It is all the same to me.

I guess some group will come out with a new connotation of the word “resurrected” (was that in Greek, Hebrew of Aramaic?), so that the people who need a literal Bible can say, "I told you so", while others will deny any facts that may be shown "as science run a muck".

It is nice to know that until "Global Warming" destroys the Earth (or at least its ability to support human life), there will be something interesting to debate.

I would believe that if it were not TOM's normal practice to start controversial, Christian-bashing threads.

I would believe that if it were not TOM's normal practice to start controversial, Christian-bashing threads.

Who is bashing Christians? I said it would not shake my faith in the Resurrection of Jesus whether "it was the human body of Jesus that was resurrected or a hologram type image that one could put their hand through".:help:

I would hope that any good Christian could make that same statement.

I would believe that if it were not TOM's normal practice to start controversial, Christian-bashing threads.

What threads have been Christian-bashing? Can you post the links? I am honestly asking, here, because I haven't seen any.

I should have specified what I meant by Christian. I meant conservative, Bible-believing, fundamentalist Christian. You know, the kind of Christian that caused me to be called a terrorist recently (oh, that was later clarified to indicate that I wasn't really a terrorist, but that I just took their side). THAT kind of Christian.

If you ask ANY of THAT kind of Christian whether or not there's Christian-bashing going on all over this board, I guarantee you will get a resounding YES. Of course, it won't be universal; a lot of them have left this site for other support sites.

And he still hasn't started any threads with the point of bashing conservative Christians. The threads that I recall only turned against conservative Christians after some made remarks that brought it on.

There is definitely a double standard here, among many of the conservative Christians on this board. They think it is A-OK to make remarks that denigrate other beliefs or imply certain things about people of other belief systems, but the minute someone says something that they don't like about conservative, fundamentalist Christianity, it's bashing and hatred all around. It's bullcrap. If they are going to serve it, they should be prepared to take it.

I am almost three times your age, so I must take my leave for the night to get some beauty sleep.

See you in the 'morrow.

If God permits.

See you in the morning, TOM.

You know, the kind of Christian that caused me to be called a terrorist recently (oh, that was later clarified to indicate that I wasn't really a terrorist, but that I just took their side).

As I remember, all they stated was that you carried some of the same beliefs that the terrorists do. And as a conservative, fundamentalist Christian, you do. A liberal Christian isn't going to go around and kill people because he thinks that is what God would want him to do. It's the conservative, fundamentalist Christians that kill people in the name of God. It is exactly the same with other religions. A liberal Muslim isn't going to kill people in the name of Allah, or because they think their victims offended Allah. The Muslim terrorists are the conservative, fundamentalist Muslims, not the liberal ones.

I don't believe anyone said that you, yourself, were a terrorist.

I think being PC has gone a little too far when we can't be honest about the people that are religious terrorists. Liberal members of any religion aren't the ones going around and killing others in the name of their deity. So yeah, the conservative, fundamentalists are going to be more likely to be religious terrorists. Does that mean that we think that all conservative, fundamentalists are terrorists? Obviously not.

There is definitely a double standard here, among many of the conservative Christians on this board. They think it is A-OK to make remarks that denigrate other beliefs or imply certain things about people of other belief systems, but the minute someone says something that they don't like about conservative, fundamentalist Christianity, it's bashing and hatred all around. It's bullcrap. If they are going to serve it, they should be prepared to take it.

What exactly did I do to deserve being called a terrorist, or a terrorist-sympathizer? I don't have a problem with discussion or even healthy debate. But there's a difference between that and deliberate baiting, which you yourself have ADMITTED to participating in.

What was said was,

I don't think you are a Christian Fundamentalist terrorist, even if you take their side quite often.

So, yeah, um, that's pretty clear to me. http://www.lapbandtalk.com/showpost.php?p=380488&postcount=854

But there's a difference between that and deliberate baiting, which you yourself have ADMITTED to participating in.

I admitted to deliberately baiting Ron, and only Ron. I have been involved in serious debate with everyone else, and I think you know that. Let's not play "blame the atheist" for all the religious spats on the board, okay? Please, I'd like you to be honest about the crap that Ron has spewed and admit that his comments have played a huge role in the conflict.

I don't think you are a Christian Fundamentalist terrorist, even if you take their side quite often.

I don't see "you are a terrorist" or "you are a terrorist sypathizer" anywhere in that statement. Could it have been phrased better? Yes. Was it calling you a terrorist? No. You'll have to ask the original author of the statement, but I read it as "you have beliefs similar to some terrorists'". You are extremely anti-abortion, even protesting in front of clinics. You believe that the man is the absolute head of the household, and that his preferences should be followed. You think that other belief systems are inferior (or at least, it comes across as that way). Etc., etc. So yeah, I would say that you DO have certain beliefs that are similar to those of some Christian fundamentalist terrorists. Again, does that make you one? No, which was made quite obvious in that thread and in this one. No one thinks you are a terrorist, for Pete's sake.

It's the conservative, fundamentalist Christians that kill people in the name of God.

I haven't been on any killing-sprees recently, nor has, let's see, , any other Christians I know. Could this, perhaps, just maybe, just slightly, be the type of remark that causes us conservative, fundamentalist Christians to cry "foul"?

How would you feel if I boldly stated something patently false, that it was the liberal, Darwinian, athiests out there that carried out the Holocaust? Or were responsible for the mass-murder of babies in the womb. Oh, wait, that last one wouldn't necessarily be false.