I just read an article that I have never seen before. The article basically states that after 4 years of plication all the sutures disappear and our stomach returns to a somewhat normal state.

Here is the article. Anyone else ever heard this from their docs? It also discusses the average volume plicators can take in at different points in time post surgery. Very interesting and somewhat shocking, at least for me. I have not heard most of this before.

I also just independantly ran into this article and it scared me! Has anyone else followed up with this about thier doctor? I'm wondering what you've learned.....

According to Dr Ortiz, this is false. Unless u break open your sutures, which he says gets much harder to do the further out you are, your stomach will stay exactly how it is after surgery. They have had patients from 8-10 years ago that they have examined recently and the stomachs are still plicated.

Thanks for that update!

8-10 years. ?.... I was informed this was new like 5-6 years, that is why they do not have exact statistics on how people do with plication vs gastric?

I had the same Dr. as you and would be very interested as to what his answer would be regarding this issue. Maybe I'll try to get ahold

of him myself.

Yes, you mean interrupted stitches. If one goes it won't affect the others.

I quoted Dr Watkins post from verticalsleevetalk here http://www.verticals...291-gps-update/ (the part on stitched is at the start of his 2nd paragraph).

I'd love to know what my doc used but I tried calling Angeles Health and they weren't answering and I called during the working day local time!!

No for those who have had the surgery for over 2 years do you regret not getting the sleeve

I had mine a little over two years ago. I wish I would not have had the gastric plication. I had no side effects. My recovery was fine. I really needed to go to a place where I could attend support group with the plication. I lost 30 lbs and have gain all but 14 pounds back. This is entirely my fault. I even had the plication check and I had not stretched it out. I have learned to eat around it. Mainly by small frequent meals. My portions are not that big. I was even getting up and eating at night!

I am now trying to eat 3 small meals with a focus of increase fruit and vegetables. I crave sweets constantly. I am on day two of no eating at night and staying with eating meals fruits vegetables and no sweets!

Good luck!

I had mine a little over two years ago. I wish I would not have had the gastric plication. I had no side effects. My recovery was fine. I really needed to go to a place where I could attend support group with the plication. I lost 30 lbs and have gain all but 14 pounds back. This is entirely my fault. I even had the plication check and I had not stretched it out. I have learned to eat around it. Mainly by small frequent meals. My portions are not that big. I was even getting up and eating at night!

I am now trying to eat 3 small meals with a focus of increase fruit and vegetables. I crave sweets constantly. I am on day two of no eating at night and staying with eating meals fruits vegetables and no sweets!

Good luck!

General rule is Protein first, then veggies, then carbs. If you are eating a lot of fruits and veggies at your meals you are missing out on the most important component. Try switching up your diet to include a lot more lean Proteins. The point is to fill up with the protein, leaving little room for anything else. The fullness will last longer as well. Do not drink for at least 30-45 minutes after eating. (liquids flush the solids out of your stomach, leaving you feeling hungry) It's also pretty common for carbs to just make you crave more carbs. Perhaps all that fruit is fueling your sweets cravings. You need to detox from simple carbs.

These are, of course the rules for VSG. I can't imagine why it would be different with plication. Good luck.

I had mine a little over two years ago. I wish I would not have had the gastric plication. I had no side effects. My recovery was fine. I really needed to go to a place where I could attend support group with the plication. I lost 30 lbs and have gain all but 14 pounds back. This is entirely my fault. I even had the plication check and I had not stretched it out. I have learned to eat around it. Mainly by small frequent meals. My portions are not that big. I was even getting up and eating at night!

I am now trying to eat 3 small meals with a focus of increase fruit and vegetables. I crave sweets constantly. I am on day two of no eating at night and staying with eating meals fruits vegetables and no sweets!

Good luck!

Eating in that manner would be a way of eating around any of the restrictive surgeries (lap band, sleeve or plication). One of the malabsorptive procedures like gastric bypass of the duodenal switch may have shown better results. In the end WLS is a tool to help us lose weight and we still have to do the hard work of diet, exercise, and following the rules the surgeons gave us. Glad to hear you are trying again with smaller meals three times a day. Best of luck to you!

8-10 years. ?.... I was informed this was new like 5-6 years, that is why they do not have exact statistics on how people do with plication vs gastric?

My understanding is that this procedure has been used in Iran and other parts of the world for 15 to 20 years at least.