Okay, so, since I've been frequenting this virtual bariatric world, there appear to be a few issues which seem to ignite much debate and throw the most meekly devised threads into huge ego-centric 'flaming' exercises.

Not only do I, personally, find this predictably boring; it is also deeply unhelpful. We all know that this process changes or should change, how we do and view things to do with food and wider health issues, forever. As such, it takes a bit of getting used to.

The prospect of having to adapt our long-held behaviours is scary and our little food related rituals? They are tough bleedin' Cookies to break. (My apologies for mentioning the 'C' word there)

Consequently, I'm a big believer in the adage that 'skeletons in the cupboard' are no longer 'skeletons', if they are dragged out into the light of day. (Normally kicking and screaming with the neighbours looking on in horror)

So, roll-up, roll-up. Consider this an online bariatric confessional!

There'll be no 'Hail Mary's' or 'Our Fathers' and flagellation will NOT and should not be forthcoming.

I want you to tell us your 'dirty' little bariatric secrets.

What did you do? Why did you do it? (and I will refrain from asking 'with whom?' you did it!) How did it make you feel afterwards? Did you resolve to never do it again - or indeed, did you think that actually, everything in moderation is not so bad after all?

Did you chow down on that hot-sauce laden and cheese encrusted beef taco 2 days post op? (No one can tell I'm fantasizing about anything that does not constitute a 'fluid' much, can you?!!!) Did you sneak into the fridge and eat all your kids chocolate bars, happy in the knowledge that your Protein Pump Inhibitors would prevent you from getting indigestion? Did you swallow 10 vodka martini's to see if your pouch and your legs could take it?

Come on, tell Aunty Revs and lets see if we can put these beasts to bed once and for all x

As is only fair, I shall go first.. Tonight, I, 8 days post surgery, ate a fair amount of cheese frosting off the top of a red velvet cupcake (and maybe a couple of mouthfuls of the sponge, too). Why? Because it was there. Did it make any sense? No, because I have never craved sweet stuff. I'm a savoury kind of girl. What did I learn from it? That damn, I'm an emotional eater (which I never thought I was) and that shockingly, that **** went down a little bit too easily. Consequently, I learnt in that way lies grave danger...

See, if I can do it, anyone can. So, step forward and lets hear the 'worst' you've got. Everyone is welcome and all are equal here x

And here's a dirty little secret for ya: I'm eating boxed mac and cheese with cut up hot dogs ... OH THE HORROR!!!!

Do you teach us how to cook that on your new bariatric cooking show???

Do you teach us how to cook that on your new bariatric cooking show???

Oooohhhh ... there's a thought ... LOL!

I told myself I would not jump in here again...

But I feel I must.

I must say there are parts about this thread that I personally find distressing too. Yes everyone here knows that I have an addiction to food that I am trying to deal with....

Apparently I'm one of the very few people that do around here.

I do not take pride in my moments of falling off the rails. Because it's not just a cookie!

For some of us. It's the meaning behind that cookie and the many more to come after that first one.

I know this is not entertaining and it might bore a few.

But as someone who is a bit further out I can say it gets harder.

I don't know maybe some of you started with very low bmi's and don't have that long of a road to travel? Or you truly don't like to much food and never had a real problem with it as some of you say?

We are all different I will give you that.

But in my heart of hearts I really feel that none of us got morbidly obese because we had a healthy relationship to food and just ate because we were truly hungry all the time..

Wow, such drama today. Can I make a suggestion? If you don't like a thread, don't read it. I feel like I'm being beaten about the head and shoulders for having fun once in a while. I know if I try to be a "perfect" sleeved person - tho I may give it my damn best shot every freaking day - I will not succeed. I'm still early days yet, but it is comforting to know that there is room for a very occasional slip up. I don't think anyone is advising that one has Oreos or cake or M&Ms or donuts every day. Are they?

I've spent a lot of time reading this site, old threads, new threads, FAQs, blogs, etc. (I have no life.) As a newbie, it helps me to know that small crashes happen but getting back on the bike and continuing to ride forward is infinitely doable.

OK. Back to reading.

Do you teach us how to cook that on your new bariatric cooking show???

Now THAT, is funny!

I must say there are parts about this thread that I personally find distressing too. Yes everyone here knows that I have an addiction to food that I am trying to deal with....

Apparently I'm one of the very few people that do around here.

I do not take pride in my moments of falling off the rails. Because it's not just a cookie!

For some of us. It's the meaning behind that cookie and the many more to come after that first one.

I definitely have an addiction to food, but it helps me so much to know that one slip is not the end of the world. Maybe when I'm further out I'll have the same thoughts as you - that would not be a bad thing! - but for me now it helps to know that others can have a slip but not fall completely from the path of successful sleevedom.

LV, do you think is there no room for mistakes at all? I really need to know - because if so, then I do need to change how I learn and strive for that perfection I wrote about earlier.

LV - you're right. We didn't get here from eating half a lettuce leaf a day - and that is something I'm painfully aware of. Damn goats cheese...

It's a struggle. I struggle. We're all trying our best and some find it harder than others. In fact, I wholly expect to wake up in the morning, find this has all been a dream and my huge jeans go back to being as tight as hell. Thankfully, this won't happen now and I'm eternally grateful for this opportunity.

In the meantime and as I trudge my way through nutritional values, gagging on proper food and physically loathing the bottle of cod liver oil I have on my kitchen counter.... I want to have a bit of a laugh. I want to take my mind off the tedium and have a bit of fun with people who are sharing the same experience and having the same dramas as I am.

So on that note, I shall return to my kitchen and with utter longing, gaze at the last red-velvet cupcake my man thoughtfully left me with before he went on his travels. The SWINE!!!

Wow' date=' such drama today. Can I make a suggestion? If you don't like a thread, don't read it. I feel like I'm being beaten about the head and shoulders for having fun once in a while. I know if I try to be a "perfect" sleeved person - tho I may give it my damn best shot every freaking day - I will not succeed. I'm still early days yet, but it is comforting to know that there is room for a very occasional slip up. I don't think anyone is advising that one has Oreos or cake or M&Ms or donuts every day. Are they? I've spent a lot of time reading this site, old threads, new threads, FAQs, blogs, etc. (I have no life.) As a newbie, it helps me to know that small crashes happen but getting back on the bike and continuing to ride forward is infinitely doable. OK. Back to reading.[/quote']

I can just pass the stuff by that I don't like or don't agree with. Or chose not to provide information that might help someone.

But as a member of this forum that has a little bit more experience I feel it important sometimes to give some insight as to how things can change when you get further out and how important it is from the beginning to make major changes. You will need that because a year from now your sleeve will change and you can eat more and most likely will want to eat more. Vets before me gave some great insight and advice. I give thanks to them for keeping my eyes wide open.

I think that when you see these threads it's not just about the couple of people going back and forth right now, but the others that will come along in the future to read them. It's important to have more than one side so people can be given the full picture... they can then take what applies to them..

Now THAT' date=' is funny! [/quote']

Yes even with the stick up my ass I can be funny

(Sometimes)

Yes even with the stick up my ass I can be funny

(Sometimes)

lol your stick isn't always present and I must say, in comparison to others'? Your stick is small today, Obi wan

I can just pass the stuff by that I don't like or don't agree with. Or chose not to provide information that might help someone.

But as a member of this forum that has a little bit more experience I feel it important sometimes to give some insight as to how things can change when you get further out and how important it is from the beginning to make major changes. You will need that because a year from now your sleeve will change and you can eat more and most likely will want to eat more. Vets before me gave some great insight and advice. I give thanks to them for keeping my eyes wide open.

I think that when you see these threads it's not just about the couple of people going back and forth right now, but the others that will come along in the future to read them. It's important to have more than one side so people can be given the full picture... they can then take what applies to them..

I agree with this whole-heartedly. As you have illustrated in this thread, it is ALL about the delivery. Some people lose sight of that and thus, the misunderstanding <read 'head bashing'> begins.. All this achieves is that any benefit which could have been derived from the message, is consequentially lost...

Why does every single thread have to turn into a lecture? And now I remember why I didnt get on this website for 3 months.

LV - you're right. We didn't get here from eating half a lettuce leaf a day - and that is something I'm painfully aware of. Damn goats cheese...

It's a struggle. I struggle. We're all trying our best and some find it harder than others. In fact, I wholly expect to wake up in the morning, find this has all been a dream and my huge jeans go back to being as tight as hell. Thankfully, this won't happen now and I'm eternally grateful for this opportunity.

In the meantime and as I trudge my way through nutritional values, gagging on proper food and physically loathing the bottle of cod liver oil I have on my kitchen counter.... I want to have a bit of a laugh. I want to take my mind off the tedium and have a bit of fun with people who are sharing the same experience and having the same dramas as I am.

So on that note, I shall return to my kitchen and with utter longing, gaze at the last red-velvet cupcake my man thoughtfully left me with before he went on his travels. The SWINE!!!

are you SERIOUS? You have cod liver oil on your counter??? WHHHHYYYY??

I definitely have an addiction to food' date=' but it helps me so much to know that one slip is not the end of the world. Maybe when I'm further out I'll have the same thoughts as you - that would not be a bad thing! - but for me now it helps to know that others can have a slip but not fall completely from the path of successful sleevedom. LV, do you think is there no room for mistakes at all? I really need to know - because if so, then I do need to change how I learn and strive for that perfection I wrote about earlier.[/quote']

Lol I'm a walking daily mistake! (No jokes please)

And perfection? There is no such thing (at least I hope not, because if there is, I'm screwed )

Addiction to food....

I ate not for hunger but for want, and for many reasons.

So my "hunger" has been partially taken away for a while. And my stomach has been made a bit smaller. Now I will say in the first months I had times I didn't want to eat at all! I even wrote once or twice "food does not matter anymore" that is temporary for most of us..

I remember a woman who wrote a post about use your first six months wisely and I thought what a b***h

But she kinda had a point, you want to try and learn better behaviors as early out as you can and take advantage of this weight lose window.

The sleeve it works!!!

But for it to really work you must eat a protein heavy diet... And let me tell you I didn't get fat eating boiled chicken breast!

Junk food tastes good to good and the fact of the matter is they (junky type food) "feel" better on the sleeve when I eat them..

When I eat them I want more, I have the oral fixation and I want to fill the hole. Slippery slope!

I know I'm rambling but you asked.

It's ok to f**k up it's ok to have fun!

But I like to balance some hard truths with it too

are you SERIOUS? You have cod liver oil on your counter??? WHHHHYYYY??

Lol I kinda wondered that too...

My mom used to make us drink that ****.

And I blame her for my food issues