Someone recently passed this article on to me, which I posted on another board. It was promptly removed. So sad . . .

Frightening News from France

Once again, the real news in France is conveniently

not being reported as it should. To give you an idea

of what's going on in France where there are now

between 5 and 6 million Muslims and about 600,000 Jews,

here is an email that came from a Jew living in

France. Please read! Will the world say nothing - again - as it did in Hitler's time?

"I AM A JEW -- therefore I am forwarding this to

everyone on all my e-mail lists. I will not sit back

and do nothing." Nowhere have the flames of

anti-Semitism burned more furiously than in France:

Lyon, a car was rammed into a synagogue and set

on fire. In Montpellier, the Jewish religious center

was firebombed; so were synagogues in Strasbourg and

Marseilles; so was a Jewish school in Creteil - all recently.

A Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with

Molotov cocktails, and on the statue of Alfred

Dreyfus in Paris, the words "Dirty Jew" were

painted. In Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a

Jewish football team with sticks and metal bars. The

bus that takes Jewish children to school in

Aubervilliers has been attacked three times in the last 14 months.

According to the Police, metropolitan Paris has seen

10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents PER DAY in the past

30 days. Walls in Jewish neighborhoods have been

defaced with slogans proclaiming "Jews to the gas

chambers" and "Death to the Jews."

A gunman opened fire on a Kosher butcher's shop

(and, of course, the butcher) in Toulouse , France;

a Jewish couple in their 20s were beaten up by five

men in Villeurbanne , France . The woman was

pregnant; a Jewish school was broken into and

vandalized in Sarcelles , France . This was just in

the past week.

So I call on you, whether you are a fellow Jew, a

friend, or merely a person with the capacity and

desire to distinguish decency from depravity, to do,

at least, these three simple things:

First, care enough to stay informed. Don't ever let

yourself become deluded into thinking that this is

no t your fight. I remind you of what Pastor

Neimoller said in World War II: "First they came for

the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I

wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and

I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they

came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up,

because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me,

and by that time there was no one left to speak up

for me".

Second, boycott France and French products. Only the

Arab countries are more toxically anti-Semitic and,

unlike them, France exports more than just oil and

hatred. So boycott their wines and their perfumes.

Boycott their clothes and their foodstuffs. Boycott

their movies. Definitely boycott their shores. If

we are resolved we can exert amazing pressure and,

whatever else we may know about the French, we most

certainly know that they are like a cobweb in a

hurricane in the face of well directed pressure.

Third, send this along to your family, your friends,

and your co-workers. Think of all of the people of

good conscience that you know and let them know

that you and the people that you care about need

their help. The number one best selling book in

France is "September 11: The Frightening Fraud,"

which argues that no plane ever hit the Pentagon."

Is that your story?? Is that what you're saying? No, I wouldn't believe you, but at least I would know where you were coming from and I could also express my opinion of your beliefs like you love to do about mine.

Of course that is not how I got my faith. I just asked if you would believe it.

So was Jesus crucified, did He die, and was He resurrected on the third day?

Either it is or it isn't! It can't be both!!

The authority of the Bible may or not be literal.

Either it is or it isn't! It can't be both!!

Exactly, Ron. You yourself have said that certain parts of the Bible must be interpreted in context. If something has to have "context" to be interpreted correctly, it isn't literal.

It is literal for that context!

Exactly, Ron. You yourself have said that certain parts of the Bible must be interpreted in context. If something has to have "context" to be interpreted correctly, it isn't literal.

Either it is or it isn't! It can't be both!!

That is your opinion.

My opinion is: "Some parts may be literal and some parts may be allegorical."

See how I did that, Ron?

I didn't say you were wrong. I didn't say you would burn in Hell. I didn't even say I was better or smarter than you.

And yes, I am being a wise guy. Because after almost 800 posts, how many people have you brought closer to Jesus? I would consider your Ministry a failure here at LBT.

All because the messenger can not put forth a message without driving people away.

Earlier you said that I cry. I am laughing so hard that my finger are having a hard time hitting the right keys. You make a mockery of Christianity. Too bad you were not born in Kuwait or Pakistan. Osama could use more followers.

There is that hot air again!

That is your opinion.

My opinion is: "Some parts may be literal and some parts may be allegorical."

See how I did that, Ron?

I didn't say you were wrong. I didn't say you would burn in Hell. I didn't even say I was better or smarter than you.

And yes, I am being a wise guy. Because after almost 800 posts, how many people have you brought closer to Jesus? I would consider your Ministry a failure here at LBT.

All because the messenger can not put forth a message without driving people away.

Earlier you said that I cry. I am laughing so hard that my finger are having a hard time hitting the right keys. You make a mockery of Christianity. Too bad you were not born in Kuwait or Pakistan. Osama could use more followers.

That is your opinion.

My opinion is: "Some parts may be literal and some parts may be allegorical."

How do you determine what is literal and what is allegorical. If Jesus treated it as literal, is that good enough for you? Because He was pretty clear about OT stuff.

It is literal for that context!

....HUH????....

Here's an example of something that's literal for the context in which it was written: if a man asks for your shirt, give him your cloak as well. Not too many people these days carry cloaks. So it was literal in the context of the time, but not literal for us today -- rather than cloaks, we should substitute coat -- or perhaps money. I'm sure there are a ton of things in the Bible referencing sandals or headcoverings, which make sense and were meant to be taken literally in the context of the day, but don't make sense literally today.

I'm quite sure, intellectually, that all of you can grasp this concept.

Here's an example of something that's literal for the context in which it was written: if a man asks for your shirt, give him your cloak as well. Not too many people these days carry cloaks. So it was literal in the context of the time, but not literal for us today -- rather than cloaks, we should substitute coat -- or perhaps money. I'm sure there are a ton of things in the Bible referencing sandals or headcoverings, which make sense and were meant to be taken literally in the context of the day, but don't make sense literally today.

I'm quite sure, intellectually, that all of you can grasp this concept.

You are confusing context and semantics. Context means "setting" or circumstances. The term "cloak" has nothing to do with the context.

In the context of the day, cloak was literal, understood, and the appropriate word to use. In the SETTING of the day, cloak makes sense. In today's context, today's setting, today's circumstances, it doesn't.

lit·er·al (lĭt'ər-əl) Pronunciation Key

adj.

1. 
   
2. Being in accordance with, conforming to, or upholding the exact or primary meaning of a word or words.
   
3. Word for word; verbatim: a literal translation.
   
4. Avoiding exaggeration, metaphor, or embellishment; factual; prosaic: a literal description; a literal mind.
   
5. Consisting of, using, or expressed by letters: literal notation.
   
6. Conforming or limited to the simplest, nonfigurative, or most obvious meaning of a word or words.

con·text /ˈkɒntɛkst/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kon-tekst] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun

1. 
   
2. the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect: You have misinterpreted my remark because you took it out of context.
   
3. the set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.

Again, if you must use context to correctly interpret something, it isn't literal.

In the context of the day, cloak was literal, understood, and the appropriate word to use. In the SETTING of the day, cloak makes sense. In today's context, today's setting, today's circumstances, it doesn't.

Gadgetlady, a cloak is a cloak is a cloak. You don't need context to correctly interpret that word.

Gadgetlady, a cloak is a cloak is a cloak. You don't need context to correctly interpret that word.

That's correct, but we don't wear cloaks! If I read a story to my kids and the word "cloak" is used, I stop and say, "That's like a coat or a cape." So given that we don't wear cloaks, you have to interpret the verse FOR OUR TIME differently than was done DURING THEIR TIME. In other words, if I just said, "I don't have to do anything for the poor because I don't own a cloak", I would be disregarding the whole teaching -- throwing the baby out with the bathwater, in effect -- instead of applying the teaching to the world I live in. To bring it into deeper context, the cloak was your method of surviving in bad weather. You didn't have a nice warm Lexus to step into. You were travelling and it was your way of surviving. If you ignore the CONTEXT of the time and just think it applies to the physical garment, you're missing the teaching.