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Whew, I finally just finished reading this thread. Do I detect a note of hostility toward our President?:o Now that it seems you all have let off a little steam and hopefully voted I would like to know what you expect from our politicians in the next 2 years? It is easy to criticize but I think it is much harder to come up with solutions. The issues are multifaceted and clearly we are not a one-size-fits-all nation. For example, if you believe the Iraq war is a stupid Bush mistake, would you pull the troops out now?, all at once or phased?, how would you handle the promises made to the Iraqi people?, would you change the program in Iraq, become more agressive inorder to dispatch the opposition more quickly? What should our government do to solve this problem? Please look at any issue - SS, immigration, energy, health care, elder care, fiscal policies, international relations, North Korea just to name a few. I look forward to your thoughts.

Terri

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For example, if you believe the Iraq war is a stupid Bush mistake, would you pull the troops out now?, all at once or phased?, how would you handle the promises made to the Iraqi people?, would you change the program in Iraq, become more agressive inorder to dispatch the opposition more quickly? What should our government do to solve this problem? Terri

Interesting questions. Do I have all the answers? Nope. I don’t have access to the information that those who make decisions do. I don’t have the skills I want my leaders to have to well, lead.

And not having all the answers doesn’t mean I can’t complain when I don’t agree with what is being done. The war in Iraq for example. We went in under a banner of “they have WMD and will target us”. It became “we need to liberate them”.

I think we need to leave. I don’t think we ever will create a stable society there. At most, we might be able to give them some tools to create it themselves. I would like to see a reasonable definition of what “victory” looks like. And plans for bringing our troops home based on milestones that we can achieve. I don’t think we can just pull out tomorrow.

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lisah25, once again you have given a thoughtful answer. Of course we don't have all the information and of course we don't have all the answers but you did answer some of my questions, thankyou. Don't stop there, I just used the Iraq war as a starting point.

Terri

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lisah25, once again you have given a thoughtful answer. Of course we don't have all the information and of course we don't have all the answers but you did answer some of my questions, thankyou. Don't stop there, I just used the Iraq war as a starting point.

Terri

Thank you. I like that there have been some really interesting points made on this thread, and lot of thoughtful comments from many.

It's going to be an interesting 2 years.

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WOOOOOHOOOOO! Democrats win the house! Possibly the Senate! Bye bye Rick Santorum you psycho!

The REPUBLICAN regime is OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The war in Iraq for example. We went in under a banner of “they have WMD and will target us”. It became “we need to liberate them”.

My thoughts exactly!!! I have been saying that for ages and no one seems to understand what I mean. Thanks, Lisa.

Once it was determined that the WMD did not exist and we were not in any danger of being bombed by Iraq, we should have tiptoed very quietly to the nearest exit and closed the door behind us as we LEFT THE COUNTRY.

God did not put us in charge of the planet Earth. We do not get to decide who needs "liberating" and who doesn't. We are entitled to protect ourselves - our homeland. That's all!!!!! If the world were a grade school playground, the USA would be the biggest bully in the whole place.

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BTW... my MIL won!!!! Good day to be a Democrat!

Congratulations to your MIL! What did she win? Big race?

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Thanks for asking Alex!

She is a state representative here in CO. This is her 4th and final term. I think she will probably run for state senate when her 2 year term as a rep is up. She's a pretty cool lady for a MIL!

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DrewsLou- Fabulous news! Please tell her that we love the fact that she was re-elected and we want more competent women in government. I would like to believe that if we had at least 50% of the seats in the House and Senate held by women this country might not be in the terrible mess it's in right now.

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Speaking of women in politics

I'd vote for Hillary Clinton should she run for President. I would love the Clintons back in office.

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Speaking of Bush..

I'd vote for Hillary Clinton should she run for President. I would love the Clintons back in office.

Telly...

Me, too. I think Hillary is way smarter than Bill, more politically savvy, and a thousand times classier. When Newt's mom confided to Connie Chung on TV that he had called Hillary a bitch, I thought Hillary's response - to invite Mrs. Gringrich to lunch - was dignity personified.

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Many people think that Hillary is a shoo-in to be the Democratic candidate for president in 2008. I don't know if any of you have noticed Obama's posturing lately, but if you'd like to see Hillary in the presidency, we better get our acts together because he's gonna garner enough support to stage an upset at the convention. It has been done many times in the past, in fact my first memory of it was when John Kennedy outmaneuvered Lyndon Johnson who was thought to have the nomination in the bag.

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Exactly my point. That woman is a phenomenon. She's got it all. I truly believe she ran the entire office to include President Clinton the entire 2 terms he served. I believe she was the real president behind the president.

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BYE BYE Donny!

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