kittyforet

sliming is when you are stuck (ate too much, ate too fast, or too big a bite) and you start to "foam at the mouth".....you know right before you throw up, how you get that mouth watering feeling where your mouth fills up with spit?? that's sliming. when you slime, your body is producing the slime as a reaction. I've only slimed once, when I ate some shredded wheat Cereal dry and too fast...I slimed for a few seconds, and was able to spit it out. Some people slime a lot from what I hear, or they have lots of slime when they do. Mine was only a small bit, about a teaspoon.

PB is productive burp. I haven't done this yet (and hope to never do it!) but this is usually after you start to slime....(someone who has had this happen, help me if I say it wrong) once the food decides it needs to come out, you have a PB where you basically vomit what is stuck...it isn't digested, so it doesn't come from your lower pouch, so you don't get all the stomach acids with it.

Not sure what else you need to know. But good luck!!!

I was banded by Dr. Reilly at True Results Houston.

I was banded by Dr. Reilly at True Results Houston.

Who did your surgery? Check that office to see if they have a group.
I used True Results Houston and they have a group that meets the last Tuesday of each month. I also met up with some ladies that are all south of Houston. We meet once a month in Alvin. That group has people that have had all kinds of weight loss surgery, not just the band.
I've also heard that there is a group from obesity help that meets near Baybrook Mall on Saturday mornings, but I don't have info on that one.
Good luck!! Join me if you're in the clear lake area.
Kristi
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Hi all-
I so need a buddy to keep motivated. I have lost 70 pounds so far in 9-10 months but I have had a plateau since the end of Dec./early Jan. I had a fill in Feb. but then had to go back for a partial unfill. Even though I was more restricted, I haven't broken the plateau.
Because I have gotten discouraged, I have developed some bad habits again like drinking loaded soda and having ice cream and candy. I have gained about 4 pounds and am so scared. Because of work, I am not exercising like I once did.
I have asked a "famous" you-tube lapbander that is a Facebook "friend" a couple of questions on two separate occasions and never have gotten an answer.
I really need a buddy to keep motivated, to give me words of encouragement, and to keep me accountable. I will do the same for that person. I know it helps as one of my best friends is not considering the band. Just talking with her has helped some but she is in such a different place than I am now that it only helps to a point.
I live in Southern California and was banded April 27th, 2012. I am married, have kids, work and had "lost myself" when I became fat. Does this ring any bellsfor anyone?
Please...someone must be out there.
Thanks-
Jen

ok, so I just got home from my dr's appt with my surgeon and thank goodness I got a fill, I needed it! I did speak to him about several issues that were of concern, he's so sweet and about the food/drink issue I approached it like this: I just told him that here after 8 mos out I wasn't sure and I needed clarification on what I could and could not eat and drink i.e. soda, Pasta, rice and his remarks were that there were no scientific proof out there soda is bad for the band, however, he would rather me not drink it cause of the caloric intake and I told him I don't drink it all I drink is Water anyway but what about when you get sick and you want ginger ale for example, I just threw that in and he was like oh yes absolutely, I was like ok. As far as rice and pasta, he said they were ok to eat but they were carbs and they do tend to clump and sometimes wouldn't pass thru the stoma and get stuck but if I could tolerate it go ahead. With that said, I did however eat a little bit of rice yesterday with baked tilapia from Capt D's and did just fine but I barely ate much of it cause I was scared but it did taste good and I had no problems. I am glad I got all this cleared up with him. I understand all dr's are different and I will limit my intake of carbs and will definately not drink soda as all I drink is water anyway but it's nice to know if you get sick and want that sprite or ginger ale its ok according to my surgeon. That's what I found out today and I thought it went very well with him today.

And who do you call?
Trollbusters!
(let's pretend I pasted a photo of Dan Ackroyd and Bill Murray into this post)

1 year ago I would have said exactly the same thing. I lost easily and was having no issue maintaining. I thought that people that whinged and moaned etc were just using excuses. Now I have a lot more sympathy. The first couple of years are EASY - after that it gets so much harder.
Things that were difficult to eat become easy.
The band does not give you the same feeling of satisfaction.
You eat what you are supposed to but get hungry again soon afterwards.
Simple solution - get a fill as obviously if this is happening it means a person is not in the green zone.
Well it's not always that simple. For some unknown reason reflux rears it's ugly head, when this happens Dr's unfill or won't fill past a certain point.
But that shouldn't be a problem should it, because by now we should have the good eating habits down pat? Well it is a problem. I know what I should be eating and that is what I eat but then I get hungry again. When the band is not controlling your hunger it is like it was preband. What makes it worse is that you know how good things can be and you desperately want to be back there. To me the weeks after surgery weren't bandster hell - they were easy. This is bandster hell!
I don't think I'm alone with this problem. A lot of the long term successful bandsters seem to have the same issue.Some of the names have slipped my mind but I know Jachut is one.
There seem to be a number of these threads atm, B52, yourself to name just 2.I understand where you are coming from but I promise you it is not quite as simple as you try to make out. Please stop "preaching" at us and keep your fingers crossed that you are lucky enough to always remain in the zone.

I gained around 40 pounds in the last 2 years. I had the band for 4 years at that point and thought my weight would never go back up! I was so sure that I got rid of all my "fat clothes" and only kept anything size 6 or under. Then my dads cancer returned and it was stage 4, he was terminal. I fell apart. I didn't really turn to food, I just didn't use the band correctly! Then he passed away and less than 6 months later my 24 year old niece died unexpectedly from lung problems. Because I have gained weight some might judge that I have learned nothing about my problems with food. However, sometimes life just throws us a curve! We are all human and we can't be perfect! Our end goal is health! So let's make a pact between those of us that need to wipe the slate clean, pick ourselves up by our bootstraps, and restart the journey we committed to! Here is to health, peace, and the comfort to know that we are surrounded by people who will be there to support us, encourage us, and be by our side though our journey to health!

Some days I feel like a failure. Not because I drink soda (I no longer desire it), but because I make a conscious choice to abandon what I was taught and ignore the rules. I have days where I eat the wrong things and don't exercise. I go through times where I wallow in self pity about how I'm not losing like I did in the beginning. But the one thing I cannot do, no matter how much I want to, is blame my band. It does its job; I am the one not following the rules.
So, that being said, I'm starting over. Following the rules but not throwing in the towel if I slip up. Picking myself back up after a bad day and reminding myself that I lost weight before and I can do it again if I follow the rules and toss out the bad food that goes right through the band. Just because I can eat or drink it doesn't mean I should and I have to get past that.
Make today the day that you start fresh. Follow the rules. Pick one goal this week and start making it happen. Drink 64+ oz of Water. Exercise 15-30 + minutes per day at least 3 times this week. Eat Protein first and stay away from soda and slider foods. Ignore stuff that doesn't help you personally. Every day is a new chance to do what's right.
I'm far from perfect and don't pretend to be, but I can start over and so can you. We all fall short at some point but we aren't perfect.
My goal this week is to drink 64 oz of water daily and exercise 4 days for at least 30 minutes. Already have one exercise session done, now to work on the water. I'm also tossing out the trash (chocolate candy) that is staring at me. It's not in my plan so it's gotta go away or I'll eat it until I am sick to my stomach.
Feel free to message me and we can hold each other accountable.
You can start over. You're worth it.

Totally, and I hate to sa it but I've never gotten it back.
My 4cc band has 3.8cc in it, should be sooooo tight and I can eat a sandwich.
Don't get me wrong, a Peanut Butter sandwich would fill me and tide me over for dinner, my band is there and I've maintained, but I can now do real damage on special occasions if I let myself.
I gave been considering another complete unfill, liquid diet and the refill but I'm do afraid I'll cave and gain heaps of weight

Thank you everyone for your kind words. I have been drinking Water all day. As long as I keep plenty of ice in it, I have no problems drinking it. I also just had a piece of grilled chicken with some spinach for dinner and I did not drink my water with dinner. Waiting 30 minutes is hard though when you want to drink so bad, but I'm gonna do it.

Some days I feel like a failure. Not because I drink soda (I no longer desire it), but because I make a conscious choice to abandon what I was taught and ignore the rules. I have days where I eat the wrong things and don't exercise. I go through times where I wallow in self pity about how I'm not losing like I did in the beginning. But the one thing I cannot do, no matter how much I want to, is blame my band. It does its job; I am the one not following the rules.
So, that being said, I'm starting over. Following the rules but not throwing in the towel if I slip up. Picking myself back up after a bad day and reminding myself that I lost weight before and I can do it again if I follow the rules and toss out the bad food that goes right through the band. Just because I can eat or drink it doesn't mean I should and I have to get past that.
Make today the day that you start fresh. Follow the rules. Pick one goal this week and start making it happen. Drink 64+ oz of Water. Exercise 15-30 + minutes per day at least 3 times this week. Eat Protein first and stay away from soda and slider foods. Ignore stuff that doesn't help you personally. Every day is a new chance to do what's right.
I'm far from perfect and don't pretend to be, but I can start over and so can you. We all fall short at some point but we aren't perfect.
My goal this week is to drink 64 oz of water daily and exercise 4 days for at least 30 minutes. Already have one exercise session done, now to work on the water. I'm also tossing out the trash (chocolate candy) that is staring at me. It's not in my plan so it's gotta go away or I'll eat it until I am sick to my stomach.
Feel free to message me and we can hold each other accountable.
You can start over. You're worth it.

Some days I feel like a failure. Not because I drink soda (I no longer desire it), but because I make a conscious choice to abandon what I was taught and ignore the rules. I have days where I eat the wrong things and don't exercise. I go through times where I wallow in self pity about how I'm not losing like I did in the beginning. But the one thing I cannot do, no matter how much I want to, is blame my band. It does its job; I am the one not following the rules.
So, that being said, I'm starting over. Following the rules but not throwing in the towel if I slip up. Picking myself back up after a bad day and reminding myself that I lost weight before and I can do it again if I follow the rules and toss out the bad food that goes right through the band. Just because I can eat or drink it doesn't mean I should and I have to get past that.
Make today the day that you start fresh. Follow the rules. Pick one goal this week and start making it happen. Drink 64+ oz of Water. Exercise 15-30 + minutes per day at least 3 times this week. Eat Protein first and stay away from soda and slider foods. Ignore stuff that doesn't help you personally. Every day is a new chance to do what's right.
I'm far from perfect and don't pretend to be, but I can start over and so can you. We all fall short at some point but we aren't perfect.
My goal this week is to drink 64 oz of water daily and exercise 4 days for at least 30 minutes. Already have one exercise session done, now to work on the water. I'm also tossing out the trash (chocolate candy) that is staring at me. It's not in my plan so it's gotta go away or I'll eat it until I am sick to my stomach.
Feel free to message me and we can hold each other accountable.
You can start over. You're worth it.

@missy- yea you're right! Wtf would he rather me eat processed lunch meat than a veg burger?? Eff that- I've been eating them with great satiety! I totally needed that .25 fill- what a world of difference!!!
He kept saying about how I'm limited being vegetarian almost as if I would say "o screw my ethical beliefs, give me a side of beef just for you"??!
@Jean- Don't kick a doggie!!!! I'll give you the address of that a hole and you can kick him!!!
This idiot has a blog and everything-

Have you ever read something posted by Tom, d**k, Harriet (or even - gulp - Jean McMillan) and wondered, "Why is she being so mean?"
Although I've felt that way myself, I have to admit I've offended others by being so outspoken (not just in the world of WLS, but in my "real" life too). Sometimes that kind of behavior is coming from a troll or a mentally imbalanced person (I've run across a few of those in 5 years on LBT and 5-1/2 years on another WLS site), and the best course of action then is to follow the simple (if difficult) advice my mom used to give me when my brother was picking on me: "If you'll just ignore him, he'll stop."
Sometimes that kind of behavior is coming from an otherwise normal person. I won't claim to be normal (whatever that is), but now that I'm out of the hospital, taking my medication as prescribed, and have been freed from my strait jacket, I'll give you some thoughts about what's really going on when someone's being mean and why it can be so hard to hear.
> Sometimes we need to hear things that make us uncomfortable. If no parent, teacher, boss, doctor, or other authority figure had ever corrected my errant behavior - if they had instead said, "It's OK, Jeannie, we understand why you hit your brother upside the head, and here's a baseball bat to use the next time" - I would never have learned the lessons I needed about getting along with other people. I might even be in jail by now. Or back at the funny farm for a forced vacation. The firm-but-caring approach is commonly known as tuff luv, and it's not meant to go down as smoothly and deliciously as a chocolate milkshake. It's meant to be astringent, sour or strong enough to get your attention fast and force you to pay attention to something you hadn't noticed before. Which can be something that's putting you, your band, your health, or your life in danger.
> Sometimes the "mean" person is reacting so strongly because the other person has said something that pushes their buttons. The underlying message (even if the mean one isn't conscious of it) is that inside, we share some tough stuff about our eating and weight. One of my hot buttons, for example, is the issue of personal responsibility, so when I see someone blaming their band for everything that's wrong in their life as well as the world's famines, wars, and plagues, my eyes start to bulge out of my head from the increased pressure of my brain, which is swellilng fiercely because I have to hold on so tight to my own reins of personal responsibility. I'm reacting this way because I see myself in the other person, and I don't like what I see. Should I act mean because of that? Of course not. Am I human for acting that way? Absolutely.
> Sometimes the "mean" person has the best intentions in the world, but his or her advice comes across too loudly or too harshly because of what I call the New Convert Syndrome. A friend of mine who's a smoker once told me that people who have just quit smoking are now on fire with the conviction that no one should smoke and complain the loudest when someone else smokes in their presence. This also can happen with people who've undergone a sudden or very recent religious conversion. That kind of life change tends to be surrounded by very strong emotions, and those emotions compel the convert to speak at length and with a great deal of single-minded enthusiasm about their new religion. I started going through that about 3-4 months after my band surgery and it lasted about 18 months after that. Then my inner fire changed from leaping flames to warm embers, and I was probably a lot easier to get along with then.
None of the above may apply to you. If that's the case, I suggest that you follow some classic 12-step advice after reading this or any other post on LBT: take what you need, and leave the rest.
Thank you all for your attention. I must now return to the regularly scheduled program, which consists of me letting our 9 dogs in and out, in and out, in and out, all day long.
Jean

I have been unable to eat anything solid first thing in the morning for quite some time now.....gets better as the day goes on....
So, for about 18 months, I make a high Protein smoothie every morning....
Starting with 100% whey, for 25gm protein....
To this I had 15gm pure liquid Protein.....(medical grade)
For flavor I add anything from mixed berries, pineapple, mango, banana, Peanut Butter, chocolate, coffee, just about anything you imagination can conjure...
Mix it all in a blender with either Water or skim milk, and a ice cube or two....
I also add a non-thickening Fiber supplement.......
So I start the day with 40gm Protein, manageable calories, etc.....and ENERGY and NO HUNGER throughout the day....
I cannot imagine food I could eat to match that...IF I were able to eat i the morning....
The gym I go to 5 days a week also has a "juice Bar" where they make recovery shakes - smoothies.....

I'm addicted to Laughing cow cheese wedges...there, I said it! They are sooooo good...

Gatecrasher, you should start your own thread/topic if you want responses. Otherwise members won't know which response goes to which poster.
tmf

So, it's been a while since I last posted on Lap-Band talk. I received the e-mail last week about the new book from the creator of this website. I think the book is good...for pre-op purposes only. Most of the books on the market are targeted at novices and not at the of us who have been living with a band and still struggle ever day. I was just hoping this new book would do more to address life multiple years past ones surgery.
Sadly, I asked my doctor about this and she said what I am experiencing now four years out is sadly more normal than not. I did really well before the surgery, but ran out of steam too quickly and slipped into some nasty habits. I went through 1 year eating a LOT of ice cream. Last spring I was actually down to 240 (20lbs from my goal). Over the summer, I gained it all back -plus another 10 for sport!
This post is more of a need to acknowledge that some of us struggle for years post-op. There are days when I just get so tired of the struggle and just want to give in.
Recently, my doctor recommended I do Protein Shakes for three days. I learned during this time that I really can go days without feeling hunger, but I just wish I could turn off the thought hunger. At least in my house, I've thrown away all of my food but Protein shakes, shooters, and calorie controlled meals. However, so much of my social life is built around going out with friends to eat. When I go out, I just find myself selecting really bad choices.
I just need encouragement. I get, I eat. I eat, I gain weight. I gain weight, I get more depressed.
Grrr....l
Wanna Be FFK (former fat kid)

I'm in Houston. Actually Clear Lake area. I was banded by Dr. Reilly at True Results in June 2011.
Been struggling lately but hoping to get back into the gym now that two of my kids aren't having baseball 5 days a week.
I'm on Facebook but I don't publicly share that there, as my boss is my friend and not a lot od people at work know. Feel free to friend me but send a message saying you're on LBT. I'll be happy to share my experiences via email, text or private message.
Kristi
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I live the Jean McMillan book "Bandwagon-2nd edition" and also her matching cookbook. If you scroll to the bottom of the main pages on LBT the ad info is there. You cannot order from Amazon.< /p>

I teach high school and some days I'm very stressed by lunch time. Thankfully I have a conference period right after lunch, so if I cannot eat during the lunch period I can take some time afterwards. It's also great because if I do run into problems eating, I'm not forced to deal with my students right away...it's crappy being stuck and having to pb in my office trash can while they're in the classroom.
Some days it doesn't pay to eat at lunch though.
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Dr. Reilly did my surgery also and he's very helpful. Explained everything.
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Those of us that have been banded all know what a slip is. It is when the stomach pushes up past the band . It is caused by not following our post op diet instructions, eating too quickly, vomiting etc etc. Slips are bad because they mean that we might have to have surgery and could even lose our band.
But wait...............
Now there is new information.
It seems that a slip is not a slip. It is a dilation of the stomach above the band. That it can be caused by overeating or eating too quickly.So in simple terms it is referring to a stretching of the stomach above the band.
What frustrates me is that nothing is clear and that every new piece of information seems to contradict the last. I know that there is ongoing research and that new things will be discovered but they never seem able to explain any of them fully. You can go to some of the Dr's websites and read the info there and some of it appears to contradict itself. Even on the famed Dr Simpson's website ( I mention him as he is often quoted as an expert)
Many people have been advised to only eat a cup or less of food as more will stretch the pouch but now we are being told that there isn't really a pouch. We are also being told that food passes through the band in approx a minute(unless of course we get stuck). Well if it passes through that quickly then how is it even possible to stretch the pouch that we may or may not have? In 1 breath they are saying that overeating causes slips, pouch dilation etc but in the next they are saying the food doesn't sit in the "pouch" so then technically that can't be possible.
I have decided that there is 1 side effect from the band that is not widely spoken about. Headaches and mental confusion from trying to understand it all. Maybe it isn't necessary to understand, maybe we just need to learn to accept that it works and not worry about the how but that is not something I can do. I have always questioned everything. Plus how are we supposed to ensure that we don't end up with serious side effects such as slips if we don't really know how they happen?