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We are now socialist, one step away from communism, the red menace.

I wish Mr. Bush could have run again, he would have wiped the floor with that Osama.

Look at this economy, it was never this bad under Mr. Bush

Spend, Spend, Spend, Who's got the money? Aww, it's alright we'll make more

Two thumbs up!

Agreed on all points.

The only exception I'd make would be if a religious organization was organized solely for charitable purposes and charitable services such as provision of food, shelter, health care were provided to people in need without strings attached.

We're all rotten sinners right out the box.

Boy do I love a good pun!

Agreed on all points.

The only exception I'd make would be if a religious organization was organized solely for charitable purposes and charitable services such as provision of food, shelter, health care were provided to people in need without strings attached.

Sharon, I`d go along with that! But, by you very description of those "charitable organizations" lets make sure that they can`t Hide under the umbrella of faith,G-d, church, etc to get the exemption. A Temple of Satan doing charitable work would get Tax Free status while a Catholic Church next door would still be required to pay taxes. Allowing Priests to (poke) 8 year old boys and look the other way should not earn Tax Free exemption.

Churches have become bastions of all things political. Church members are told how and why and for whom to vote. Ministers rail against any candidate or policy that goes against their own belief system. And the Pope tells everybody in the Catholic church exactly what they are expected do politically.

As long as politics are conducted from the pulpits in America, then they should not be tax free entities.

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Churches have become bastions of all things political. Church members are told how and why and for whom to vote. Ministers rail against any candidate or policy that goes against their own belief system. And the Pope tells everybody in the Catholic church exactly what they are expected do politically.

As long as politics are conducted from the pulpits in America, then they should not be tax free entities.

I agree if people are using churches for political preaching then they should pay taxes. Kind of like when politicians go to church for speeches. Its wrong imo and done on both sides dems and reps. It drove me nuts election night seeing people at churches having rallies for Obama. Tell me they weren't preaching for him.

Boy do I love a good pun!

lmao funny

Nope Chris I can't tell you that there weren't rallies or sermons in churches in support of Obama on election night. Kinda makes you want to toss a bomb in there, doesn't it?

You're right, of course it happens on both sides. But Christian and Catholic churches are generally conservative and they have very selfish motives for supporting Republicans.

Some Christian churches support Democratic candidates because they have poor and working class congregations.

I certainly appreciate you teling us about getting driven nuts on election night by rallies for Obama on election night. It's always good to see both sides of a discussion.

Nope Chris I can't tell you that there weren't rallies or sermons in churches in support of Obama on election night. Kinda makes you want to toss a bomb in there, doesn't it?

You're right, of course it happens on both sides. But Christian and Catholic churches are generally conservative and they have very selfish motives for supporting Republicans.

Some Christian churches support Democratic candidates because they have poor and working class congregations.

I certainly appreciate you teling us about getting driven nuts on election night by rallies for Obama on election night. It's always good to see both sides of a discussion.

Toss a bomb in there? Wtf kinda assinine response is that? Yeah sorry I am not a liberal nut job.

Olive branch came out and the hand got cut off!!Bogus.

Well I didn't think that was much of a stretch Chris, in light of your comment. Think about it - church rallies for Obama - making you feel nutty - nut jobs tossing bombs in churches.... not so much of a stretch really.

It was said rather tongue in cheek actually because I thought you might want to think about what you had said. Obvioulsy I was wrong and you're not a raging extremist.

Oops, tongue might still be firmly planted in cheek.

I'm not sure where to post this, but figured this thread was a good place ...........re: all the change with Obama.

I was self-pay for my lapband surgery. I financed it and it works like a credit card. My original contract/agreement was 0% interest for the first 6 months and then a fixed interest rate of 9.9% on the remaining balance. I noticed on my monthly bill that it now says my rate is variable. So, I called this credit card company with questions. They told me that the new credit card laws that were effective in Feb. make it so there can be no fixed rates and actually my rate can now go up since it is now variable! This new law may just screw me over.

HB--In 2005 I bought a new house and needed dinning room and office furniture. I went to Ashley's, they were having a 0% sale. I bought the furniture on their credit card. 6 months later I got a notice that they were discontinuing the sale and my new rate was 23.95%, I called them because I didn't have any late payments or reason for the card to go up. They told me it was their option, this is why the law was needed the credit card companies have been tricking people like that for years. Luckily I had the cash to pay it. By the way, they could be BSing you now on why they changed it.

By the way, has the Moving Truck pulled up to Rush Limbaugh`s Ocean Front Mansion on Palm Beach yet? He promised to move his fat ass to Costa Rica if and when the Obama Health Care Reform Bill passed. Since I don`t live far from him, I`d be more then happy to drop him off at PBI or FLL Airport so that he can fulfill his threat.

PS: Chris _ NJ, you did`nt have to state that your not a Liberal Nut Job, everyone excepts the fact that right wing Republican conservatives are simply raving lunatics and obstructionists. Most of us (including) Obama, forgive them because their mostly white born again evangelicals that are "Saved"! I must note however, I exclude myself from this forgiveness group due to the fact that I "Spend" more then I "Saved"! Poor Sen Jim DeMint,from SC had to drop out of competition with Dancing With The Stars due to a foot fracture and now has another one from attempting to kick the Democrats in the ass with their Health Reform Bill which passed. Hope he can "feel my love"!

Thanks Phil, you're one funny dude.

I got a business credit card statement yesterday for a mastercard account. They now have instituted a fee for any charges that are on the account that you haven't paid off but it isn't the usual percentage like Leigha is talking about. I don't have the term for it in front of me but it is something that they can arbitrarily set a number for. It is a random additional fee and they call it something that is so obvious a scam that it is ridiculous. It's in addition to all the other fees and percentages they have used in the past. And it is a relatively big number. So I paid the damn thing off.

They're certainly incentivizing us to become an all cash country. And that ain't necessarily a bad thing. Especially on personal accounts that are strictly for luxury items. But sometimes using a card has been a good way to keep a small business from beccoming cash poor when sales are down.

And if you have to go to the doctor and can't pay cash for a large number like $14,500.00, being able to put it on a card can be very helpful from time to time. (That's a portion of the amount I will need to pony up to get my band converted to a sleeve. It's the part of the charges that I need to pay "up front" prior to the procedure.)

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