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Why NOT To Go With "Why Go Abroad/The Hospital Group!!My personal Experiences....

Sorry - I posted this twice - once in the wrong forum!:confused2:

Hi Guys. Im new here today. I had a band with WGA on 11th April. I have just submitted my formal complaint to the healthcare commission - here's a copy of my letter. Should any be considering using this company - I would strongly advise against it....:cursing:

Dear Sirs,

Re: Complaint/WGA GASTRIC BAND FRIDAY 11TH APRIL

I am writing to inform you of my complete disappointment with the overall level of service I have recently received from The Hospital Group under their Why Go Abroad Company regarding a gastric band procedure.

I visited the offices of The Hospital Group in Manchester earlier this year to discuss having a Gastric Band fitted. The consultation went ok and the staff were very helpful and friendly. I was provided with all the information regarding the two different packages I could choose from, the first being with The Hospital Group, and costing £8000, which included a year’s worth of aftercare and band fills

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The second package was the ‘Why Go Abroad’ offer. I was advised that WGA was an economy package which cost £4950 and that the only difference with this package was that it the aftercare was only for 5 weeks, and didn’t include any band fills, just an X ray, and a final consultation to be discharged.

I was advised at the initial attendance by a lady named Lisa that anytime I had any queries regarding the procedure, I could contact her, (even if I decided to go onto the Why Go Abroad package) and she would assist me as best possible. I was even given a mobile number to call her on should I require.

I didn’t book for the procedure initially as I was still very apprehensive given the fact that it was such a huge decision. Lisa, rang several times to discuss the operation and any queries I may have, and on some occasions, to see whether I was ready to book, however, I was still very unsure at this time.

After a lot of thought and discussions, I eventually decided to go ahead and I rang and booked my place. My surgery was booked for April 11th in Birmingham with WGA.

Not very long after I had booked and paid for my operation, I thought of a few questions I hadn’t previously asked and decided to make use of the mobile number I had been given for Lisa. She seemed very surprised that I had rang and seemed reluctant to speak to me as I was (and I quote) “only on the economy package” (I don’t think a helpline was included in this option). Obviously I was shocked by this remark and felt very let down by it. She did eventually answer my questions, albeit very hurriedly, and made it abundantly clear she was very busy and didn’t seem to have the time for me anymore.

My operation came and went very quickly. I was barley in hospital 24 hours for the entire procedure and I felt very rushed – like I was on a conveyor belt. The following morning, I was obviously in pain from the operation, however, was told at 6:15am that I was being discharged as my bed was needed for someone else. My Husband wasn’t due until 7am and I wasn’t even offered as much as a drink whilst I waited, despite previously being nil by mouth for 36 hours.

Before I left, I was however provided with my ‘aftercare package’ which to my surprise was just a letter merely advising that there were 2 follow up appointments and pain relief included in the aftercare pack. There were no follow up appointments arranged, and no pain relief provided. My husband had to go and specifically ask for pain relief for me so that I had some for when I got home.

A week or so after the procedure, I decided to contact WGA myself to arrange an appointment for my x ray to check that the band was ok – which I arranged without any problems – Only complaint here was that I had to travel back down to Birmingham, when I was previously led to believe that only my operation would be carried out in Birmingham – all following appointments would be in Manchester. Following my X ray appointment I rang WGA several times to try and book an appointment to be discharged but with no success. I was met with a number of reasons for this namely either that my surgeon was on summer leave, that I had to go to Birmingham (even though I was assured my follow ups would be in Manchester), or that I had to wait to be called back. My calls were never returned, and I was not offered a discharge appointment.

I finally decided enough was enough after several attempts of trying to arrange a discharge so I contacted WGA complaints dept and spoke to Sarah with a view to advising her of my situation and attempting to speed matters up to obtain a discharge appointment as I hadn’t had any joy at all from the appointments department. She seemed to have a “couldn’t care less attitude” and was very blasé about the entire thing. She wasn’t interested in anything I had to say and merely stated that ‘they only accepted complaints in writing’. At this point I wasn’t even making my feelings about the matter official and it made me feel like she had simply switched off from listening to what I had to say and switched on to ‘auto pilot’ mode giving me an answer that didn’t even relate to my query.

I finally seemed to make some headway this week and was offered a telephone discharge on Friday? How can I be properly discharged over the telephone? My wounds/scars are supposed to be checked, and my band felt to ensure it is the right position. I was desperate to be discharged as I am unable to have my band filled until this step is complete and at the moment, it is doing nothing for me at all. I didn’t need to worry however as I never received the “telephone discharge” call. I waited in all evening, by the phone but no call came.

After this telephone call was arranged I was told I could go ahead and book my band fill with Obesity Care – which I did for Monday 16th June 2008 at a further cost of £125 which had to be paid for at the time of booking. My situation now is that I won’t be able to have my band filled as I have not been discharged – and I will probably be £125 more out of pocket.

I felt that as soon as I made the decision to go ahead with the procedure, especially on the WGA package, no-one seemed to feel the need to make any further effort with me whatsoever as I had already been ‘reeled in’, and unfortunately this situation continued after my operation.

I have received no customer service or after care at all with my so called ‘package’, despite it apparently including 5 weeks after care, and a further consultation in Manchester which, not surprisingly, has not even been provided to me.

I am disgusted that I paid the sum of £ and received literally nothing more than a ‘no frills package’. I specifically chose to go private for this procedure as I was under the impression that paying privately got you not only a quicker all-round time scale, but a little peace of mind that things would run more smoothly, and that I would be taken care of in a more personal and professional way. I was sadly mistaken.

I am aware that I opted for the ‘cheaper’ of the two packages; however, it shouldn’t mean that I have to sacrifice my right to decent customer service and after care. I honestly expected to receive the basic element that I paid for and I feel utterly appalled that this is not the case.

I am disgusted by the entire experience I have encountered with this procedure at the hands of The Hospital Group/Why Go Abroad and in some ways, feel that I have wasted money that I could not afford to throw away.

I paid an extremely large sum of money for a product that I have not received. Had this money, for example, been used to purchase a car that turned out to be faulty, or, a new bathroom/kitchen suite that did not meet the advertised requirements, I can assure you that such products would have been returned immediately and a refund demanded. Unfortunately however, in these circumstances, this is not the case as the ‘product’ I have purchased cannot be returned and I feel I am simply expected to ‘shut up and put up’.

I feel completely let down and cheated by everyone concerned in this matter.

I would therefore be obliged to receive any advice/feedback from you in response to all of the above, within the next 14 days.

Yours sincerely,

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Howcome you are getting a fill on WGA.. I was told they werent included. When I rang the appointment people to ask for a fill at the xray they said I cant have one until discharged by surgeon & then i'd have to book a seperate appt and pay!

Hi Sallieanne

I got a free fill whilst having my xray.. This is only because i have had to wait so long for my xray appointment to come through and i completely kicked off so they are giving me a free fill as way of compensation.

Debbie..

hi sally. How you getting on? Got my appointment for discharge next tue and my first fill the day after---good service from WGA or what?

Caroline x

Hi Caroline... I have emailed you directly, thanks for leaving your address for me at the hospital... I thought if I email then you will have mine too!

No appointments for me yet?! I desperately want a fill!

Sally

xx

Oh no... Caroline my email got returned - I must have the wrong address. I will send you a private message with my address!

Where are your appointments? How come you have a fill? Did they send you that too or did you have to request it?

I will have to ring them tomorrow now... I'm so jealous! I desperately need a fill!!

Sal

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  • 4 weeks later...

hi i have just had band fitted at bromsgrove, i was quite happy with everything. :) i wasn't a straight forward case when they started the op they found that i had a hiatas hernia and had to repair it so they were able to place the band i'm in quite a lot of pain and a bit fed up cos i cant return to work for six to eight weeks. day 3 post op i recieved a phone call from a hospital group nurse who checked i was ok and gave me details of future appointments that were to arrive via post in the next few days hope the rest of my wga experience goes to plan :unsure:

oh poor you!! but at least it was found not just overlooked. So far WGA has been 1st class so Im sure you are in safe hands.Enjoy the time off from work and rest so you are well enough for your band.

Take care. Cx

  • 5 weeks later...

just want to say i had my band fitted in nottingham with the hospital group and everything was brilliant and i received very good treatment and after care the only pain is going to bromsgrove for the fills but it has been worth it i have had 7 fills and have 8.25ml in a 10ml band and have lost 60lbs in just over a year FANTASTIC am so happy with the experiance.

At one point it was a little too full i rang bromsgrove and i had an appointment that day for the next morning and they were very understanding and the care was excellent.:lol:

I am affraid I have nothing but praise for WGA!! I was banded on 12th Sept and I too had to have a hernia repair, the staff were great and sooo patient with me (im a needle phobic), I have got my appointment for x-ray and then another to be discharged. I will def go with WGA in the future if I need any cosmetic surgery after my weight loss.....Plus Dolan Park was lovely!! My mum n friend got breakfast brought to them in my room, I had a double room to myself with a view of the pond and animals in the fields

Hi Sara and all (1st post so bare with me !)

3rd time lucky ,just registered after reading your experience with the HG.

Started replying twice and my message just dissapeared!!

I too had a band fitted 18mths ago with the Hospital Group and paid £7950.00 and wasnt offfered the cheaper package (To be fair maybe the offer was'nt available then?)Anyway all went well and had no problems untill now!!!

Started in july 08 my first holiday having lost four and a half stone was so looking foward to Not getting Harpooned on the beach:laugh:lol

I had 6mls in my band but as soon as i got of the plane i felt very uncomfortable but tried to pass it off,anyway it was a holiday from hell and if i had a harpoon i would of put myself out of my misery i even tried to find a hospital in spain to help but very difficult and as soon as i got back i phoned the owc and they got me in to have some Fluid out straight away and have to say there were and are fantastic especially a lady called Estelle she really does "care" it isnt just a job to her(credit where credits due).

I decided to have my band emptied totally to have a rest for a few weeks ,i have done this before and was soooooo looking foward to it.But IT never happened and to cut a long story short after a month of Acid reflux like you wouldnt believe and all that goes with a too tight band ,i new something was wrong,i rung and made an appiontment this week to have a x-ray .

Well Yesterday i had it confirmed i have a prolapse/slipped band!!!!!!

Was told to contact the HG which i have and have an app for next wed to see the surgeon for a consultation .(the fee of £150.00 )

They have made me fully aware that as i am "OUT OF THE 12 CONTRACT" the price is for removal it is £5000.00 and if they can correct it ? couldnt give me a price !:)

Only one small problem i dont have £5000.00 pounds !!!

Maybe i will just have to wait till it becomes that bad and i have to call 999 ! How bad is that? talk about hands being tied.

I thought a BAND is for LIFE not just for CHRISTMAS (18mths)!!!:tt2:

I said exactly what you quoted about buying a car etc i am just gobsmacked we are talking possible lifethreatening here (not just yet i hope finish this!)got to laugh or i will cry:laugh:

I rung my GP today as advised to ask if he could refer me to the NHS

as my surgeon does both private and NHS .He said he will have to talk to the senior partners and get back to me!! Dont think i should hold my breath do you ?:tt2:

Also been advised that my surgeon does like people yo-yoing from private to NHS ,Well im sorry mr surgeon but we are all not as loaded as you .

SO the outlook doesnt look too good maybe because i have been up since 3am feeling sorry for myself i suppose i got myself into this mess an.d i will have to sort it out.Have to say though feels better to get things of your chest and please all pray that next wed the surgeon takes one look at me and says "look you have spent alot of money with us and your LIFE is more important than MONEY " and i will do it for FREE ( nothing is for free so a small charge would be fine )we need to do the op as soon as possible and all goes well and we all live happily ever after .

3 2 1 back in the room !!!:tt2:

well we can live in hope !

Moral of this story dont FLY on a full band ! apparently its in the small print in the back of the booklet .... Anyone seen this?

Really glad things have worked out for you xx

P.s Anybody with some GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES please e-mail ASAP:thumbup:looloo

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