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Thank you numbheart, does anyone agree?

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There are a lot of people still overweight regardless of eating a paleo or vegan diet. Neither of these diets are necessarily for weight loss, I guess they could be considered a lifestyle and/or for the advocates of each diet they would say that their diet has the most health benefits.

Both of diets do have wonderful health benefits, but it does come down to longevity. Which diet/lifestyle is the most sustainable for you for the long term.

I doubt I could do a vegan diet, paleo too can be hard, both have aspects of inflexibility. Some years ago I looked into the 'primal blueprint' by Mark Sisson. A variation of the paleo diet that was more moderate and flexible. It's wasn't even necessary to buy the book all the info was available on the website. I liked that he had a section for weight loss (he recommended for weight loss that people count calories inconjunction with the primal blueprint, along with ensuring sufficient Protein and good fats).

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16 hours ago, Frustr8 said:

Thank you numbheart, does anyone agree?

Nope, given only the two options I'd go vegan.

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SCNR, that's why I gave the answer above. Of course just saying "I'd do this or that" without giving a reason why is not something I usually do. ;)

10 hours ago, 2shea said:

There are a lot of people still overweight regardless of eating a paleo or vegan diet. Neither of these diets are necessarily for weight loss, I guess they could be considered a lifestyle and/or for the advocates of each diet they would say that their diet has the most health benefits.

I agree with this. Both the paleo and the vegan diet have not really something to do with weight loss, especially not the vegan diet. Often people seem to use them for weight loss, more or less successful.

I personally think that WLS is the opportunity to get rid of all the fad diets and their suffocating rules, and yes - IMO this includes all this low-carb and/or low-fat hype and all of these low-cal artificial foods as well.

(Do I call the vegan diet a "fad diet"? Yes, I do when it comes to using it as a weight loss diet.)

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Which one allows meat and leather shoes? I'll stick with that one if they were the only two choices on the planet... luckily, they are not!

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I'd be flexible as the occasion calls for, why lock into something that is not your core belief for weight loss alone? Now if you subscribed to the ideology that's totally different... IMHO

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