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JaimeSTL    4

JaimeSTL
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All I can say is "One day we shall see." The scripture teaches that in the end of time "every knee WILL bow and every tonge WLL confess that Jesus Christ is Lord." He is our creator and when He says something is right or something is wrong, it would be best for everyone if we heeded his advice.

Just a note* It is one thing to say you are a christian, the real test of that is when you follow His teachings. Therefore, you can't be a christian and say it's ok to kill a baby in the womb or out of the womb. Killing is wrong.

We are all sinners. No sin is greater than another. Last time I checked, the Lord forgives all who ask for forgiveness.

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*susan*    1,709

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Ok guys, I think we need to stop getting quite so personal as it looks like we are attacking the person instead of the idea now. Please get back on track so I do not have to lock this thread.

Thanks.

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rodriguezequal    3

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Ok guys, I think we need to stop getting quite so personal as it looks like we are attacking the person instead of the idea now. Please get back on track so I do not have to lock this thread.

Thanks.

I think it was one individual that seems to be causing such problems...the one that called me a murderer! I hope she knows how hurtful that is and was and how I don't think God would appreciate the way she is treating her fellow beings...God loves all of his children equally. Please do not try to make me sound like a dirty, evil person patty because I am not...in fact I am far from that.

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BJean    16

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Susan pattygreen started by attacking personally someone who was cool enough to share her story with us. Then it escalated from there - escalated mostly by pattygreen.

I believe that she has insinuated in the past that I am not a Christian and that because I disagree with her beliefs on abortion rights, I am a Godless person. That's about as personal as it gets.

I think that it would be a shame to shut this thread down since so many people have been given an opportunity to voice their opinions and tell their stories here.

But I do believe that having someone so extremist rail against anyone who doesn't share her views is definitely not conducive to an open forum. I personally find all the talk of murder and killing to be particularly hateful

So I support you 100%. Do whatever you have to do. It definitely has gotten out of whack on these past couple of pages.

Our founding fathers by the way, came here because they were discriminated against due to their religious beliefs. That's exactly what pattygreen is doing to many of us here. I believe that the founding fathers wanted to establish a country where NO person was discriminated against because of his or her religious beliefs.

Authors message: Some Christians have their own brand of Christianity. It is driven by a singular, narrow-minded interpretation of the Bible. It is driven by all the propaganda that surrounds their brand. To me it is a very hateful view of all things spiritual and religious. And although they call abortion murder and anyone who would have an abortion a killer, I have found most of them to be in favor of capital punishment. As I said, it's a hateful, hell fire and brimstone interpretation of the Bible. Guilt drives it. And it is terribly offensive.

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pattygreen    5

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Losingjusme, Maybe you don't understand that we are on a thread where you debate issues. If you didn't have an opposite view to your view, who would you debate with? You obviously support a womans choice to have an abortion or not, how would you feel if I said to those who side with you to ignore you?!

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pattygreen    5

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Just because I back up my belief that women should not have a right to choose by saying that The God of the bible also agrees with me, doesn't mean I am shoving my christianity on you. Now that is where women can make a choice. If you don't agree with my beliefs, choose to live your own way. I'm not forcing you to side with me.

I never once personally called her a murderer and I never said she was dirty or evil. Go back and reread all my threads. You are all putting words in my mouth because you are angry with hearing my viewpoint.( sometimes when God reveals His truths to people through others it angers them because deep down inside they know it is wrong to kill unborn babies, but they want to do whatever they want to do, so they attack the messenger.) I recall saying that she was a young girl that I had compassion for because of the injustice that happened to her. But I also told everyone here that I feel it is wrong to abort a baby in any circumstance.

FYI: your name calling doesn't offend me. I understand that when people are confronted with their sin, they resort to that. It's like a parent with a child,when you tell them that what they are doing is wrong, sometimes they call you names.

( and Jesus said that I would be persecuted if I tried to reveal His truths to those who don't want to hear it)

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