Okay, all I'm going to say, is that if people don't start to use the 'search Forums' function...I may have to have a Michael Douglas Whammy Burger moment.

It's not that hard. ALL of the information you require will be there (with the exception of a few, personally focussed nuances and topics).

If your topic is not original, do us all a favour; thoroughly exhaust the search function and if there is something not covered (which I doubt it won't be), THEN ask! Ideally making reference to what you have read so far and how and why, the information presented did not cover your specific area of interest/concern.

If you don't know how to search - please ask us. We will be MORE than happy to help.

Its just and outside of this, the general laziness permeating the threads is starting to get on my mammary glands.

For those of the 'bleeding heart' brigade who will no doubt mew in my general direction: 'But some people are new. Some people need special attention. Don't be mean. You need to be more compassionate. You were new once. This serves no purpose but to scare people away from posting' (etc.etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum)

Bite me. I have never been 'lazy' in the pursuit of information which will allay my fears and build upon my knowledge for a proposed action which really should not be taken lightly, so why are other people?

If someone is incapable of using the search function through internet inexperience - this is one thing. (See above). But I find for those who have already managed to insert Giff's and tickers to their signatures, this is not applicable - so why haven't they searched first? If you evidence that you've searched (not just stating 'I've searched', moving on to ask the same bleedin' question, thus indicating you haven't actually been bothered to search!) and there's a genuine need for additional and unique information - there's not a person in the world who won't help you.

However and I'm just going to put it out there. If you're this lazy in response to finding out the critical information YOU need for YOUR surgery and post operative care; how does this bode for your attitude post surgery?

If you can't be bothered now, will you be bothered later?

Or is this just emblematic of the attitude 'Its not me, it's them.' Absolving yourself of all responsibility?

So and to summarize; take the initiative people. Use your brains. Read, analyse, compare, contrast, critique - THEN ask questions.

You will gain far more from it and the website will also benefit. I concede that the search function on this site is a bit laborious. However, by showing some effort, the people who genuinely want to help you will be invigorated to do so - valuing the efforts you've already made to push the debate on and contribute to the ever-growing invaluable pot of knowledge on Bariatric Pal. Failure to do so will just fill the the site with repetitive, unanswered questions, because those who are capable of helping have become exhausted and their pot of compassion depleted, by those whom seem to think that THEIR questions are more important/relevant/unique than anyone else's?

The Quest for knowledge should be a daily mission. It is how we learn and grow. Asking people to spoon feed you pap, like baby food, will do nothing for you long term and will do nothing for this community, either.

Maybe have a think about that, before you post another 'done to death' topic; expecting the world to rally to your call. 'Cause after a while, people just won't respond and all thats been affected, is to leave the site a wasteland full of whistling wind and tumbleweed.

Rant over.

<Wanders off grumbling, back to her cave of mean>

I've been on here for a little while and to be honest I get Madame's side and everyone else's. I do try to be encouraging to everyone and I need encouragement sometimes too. Posts do get redundant and you feel like you are saying the same things over & over again. But, to me it's different people asking and I think they may need encouragement.

However, I don't blame Madame for her rant - we all need to vent sometimes & I have before too. When you "rant" on here you open yourself up for all sorts of responses. That's why I don't "rant" I just keep it to myself, but the rant section is just that - to rant!

I think it's all in how you say things not so much as the content. If Madame is so bothered by peoples redundant posts perhaps she would be wise to just skip those that she deems too bothersome. I know that there are a lot of new folks on here daily and I try to be encouraging, because I was new also . I needed someone to say atta girl or try something different or call your Dr. I believe we all have to travel down this same road and it's not my place to determine how anyone else feels. Anyway I am done with this thread and I hope everyone develops some sympathy or empathy for new people and if you don't like their posts don't respond and don't berate.

For the record, I'm not being a 'jerk'. If I wanted to be a 'jerk', i'd be going into individuals' threads, winding people up, calling people names and the like. Ringing any bells? I think most would observe, I haven't done that - even if by implication, you think I have. Humorously, I would hazard a guess - those getting most offended by my rant, are those most likely to identify with the pattern of behaviour observed... If that's you? Well, sorry, but this is a 'rant and rave' section (as keeps being endlessly repeated). If you don't like it. There's a door... I suggest you use it ------------------------->

I have read through this entire thread again to see If my remarks were off. Even as I read them again, Its clear to me my remark about "jerks" wasn't pointed at anyone in particular. However, in the context and flow of the thread I can see how it could have been read as me calling MR a jerk. It was a newbie mistake for me not to make it clear that I wasn't dissing her. So to MR and those who love her, I am sorry. Please let me know what else I need to do or say to clean this up with you. (Please don't ask for a 20 page paper that compares and contrasts Protein shakes because then I'd have to start a Rant about that and we could get caught in some sort of Star Trek infinity time loop. And you know what a pain those are!

Please, please lets stop the insanity of this thread......I beg everyone! I am writing this while being high on Morphine due to my latest hospital trip.......

Oh RJ! Feel better, love.

I would like to remind everyone that this website was created by Alex. Until he makes a rule that everyone should only search the forum before, during or after thinking of posing a question then none of us have the right to tell another member what to do for support. Also, it's no one else's business to tell another member where and what to read here. Anyone can read any thread anywhere they so choose, otherwise this space would be reserved for veteran eyes only.

For anyone considering moving on to another website please reconsider. There are many of us here, even ones that have been posting for many, many years that are happy to answer your questions, myself included. I may take time off but I do come back with a fresh face, but I can never remember lashing out on anyone who just wants a little support. This is a very scary decision and everyone has the right to seek one on one here.

Irene

Even I'm done with this thread - and it's my bloody thread!

<Snores, drools, snores some more; passing out with a thud on the floor, through the UTTER TEDIUM of the circuitous 'arguments'>

This topic is closed. It is not conducive of conduct here at Bariatric Pal.