Okay, all I'm going to say, is that if people don't start to use the 'search Forums' function...I may have to have a Michael Douglas Whammy Burger moment.

It's not that hard. ALL of the information you require will be there (with the exception of a few, personally focussed nuances and topics).

If your topic is not original, do us all a favour; thoroughly exhaust the search function and if there is something not covered (which I doubt it won't be), THEN ask! Ideally making reference to what you have read so far and how and why, the information presented did not cover your specific area of interest/concern.

If you don't know how to search - please ask us. We will be MORE than happy to help.

Its just and outside of this, the general laziness permeating the threads is starting to get on my mammary glands.

For those of the 'bleeding heart' brigade who will no doubt mew in my general direction: 'But some people are new. Some people need special attention. Don't be mean. You need to be more compassionate. You were new once. This serves no purpose but to scare people away from posting' (etc.etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum)

Bite me. I have never been 'lazy' in the pursuit of information which will allay my fears and build upon my knowledge for a proposed action which really should not be taken lightly, so why are other people?

If someone is incapable of using the search function through internet inexperience - this is one thing. (See above). But I find for those who have already managed to insert Giff's and tickers to their signatures, this is not applicable - so why haven't they searched first? If you evidence that you've searched (not just stating 'I've searched', moving on to ask the same bleedin' question, thus indicating you haven't actually been bothered to search!) and there's a genuine need for additional and unique information - there's not a person in the world who won't help you.

However and I'm just going to put it out there. If you're this lazy in response to finding out the critical information YOU need for YOUR surgery and post operative care; how does this bode for your attitude post surgery?

If you can't be bothered now, will you be bothered later?

Or is this just emblematic of the attitude 'Its not me, it's them.' Absolving yourself of all responsibility?

So and to summarize; take the initiative people. Use your brains. Read, analyse, compare, contrast, critique - THEN ask questions.

You will gain far more from it and the website will also benefit. I concede that the search function on this site is a bit laborious. However, by showing some effort, the people who genuinely want to help you will be invigorated to do so - valuing the efforts you've already made to push the debate on and contribute to the ever-growing invaluable pot of knowledge on Bariatric Pal. Failure to do so will just fill the the site with repetitive, unanswered questions, because those who are capable of helping have become exhausted and their pot of compassion depleted, by those whom seem to think that THEIR questions are more important/relevant/unique than anyone else's?

The Quest for knowledge should be a daily mission. It is how we learn and grow. Asking people to spoon feed you pap, like baby food, will do nothing for you long term and will do nothing for this community, either.

Maybe have a think about that, before you post another 'done to death' topic; expecting the world to rally to your call. 'Cause after a while, people just won't respond and all thats been affected, is to leave the site a wasteland full of whistling wind and tumbleweed.

Rant over.

<Wanders off grumbling, back to her cave of mean>

Well, I just read this whole thing and now my eyes are bleeding.

Silly silly silly

Being new here the OP almost makes me not want to ask anything in fear someone is going to talk behind my back ranting about my concern/question.

I'm sorry if I post duplicate questions but the way MY mind works is that if I have a question on my mind I need to immediately ask it or I'll forget. If I have a pen and paper I could write it down and then do a search but many times I'm on my phone and looking on the board and don't have access to a pen and paper.

To the OP- I'm thinking that you may be burned out with this site and need to move on perhaps?

I feel the same way

Don't be afraid to ask questions...let's all put this behind and move forward. I am pretty sure Madam R was just pointing out things but didn't mean any harm to anyone. Let's all just have a group hug and move forward. And continue on with our journey...

Edited May 17, 201412 yr by RNBSN786

Yes, and hopefully other newbies will stay clear from this forum too, or at least this thread anyway.

I'm a newbie and while I try to ask reasonable questions, I too am afraid of the wrath of the gurus. People ask questions because they want connection with others. This can be a lonely and scary journey. I've read a lot on this forum and it seems like there are a handful of folks who like to push buttons and then say "who me? I wasn't being a jerk..." Luckily, it's only a few.

i think we have already established that the rants and raves section is probably not where noobs should be looking for support. just sayin'

For the record, I'm not being a 'jerk'. If I wanted to be a 'jerk', i'd be going into individuals' threads, winding people up, calling people names and the like.

Ringing any bells?

I think most would observe, I haven't done that - even if by implication, you think I have.

Humorously, I would hazard a guess - those getting most offended by my rant, are those most likely to identify with the pattern of behaviour observed...

If that's you? Well, sorry, but this is a 'rant and rave' section (as keeps being endlessly repeated).

If you don't like it. There's a door... I suggest you use it ------------------------->

i think i already posted once this week.... just because you are offended, doesnt make you right. on the contrary, MR has every right to post her rant in the rants section. if'n it makes you feel riled up... avert your eyes!! there is also feature where you can hide the posts of anyone who bothers you... i suggest, instead of insisting that she is a _______ , use it.

Wow. I wasn't even speaking of MR when I wrote that. it's true that these kind of posts have a chilling effect on asking questions. I'm pretty sure there are lots of other newbies reading this and deciding not post anything at all now. Sorry MR that you thought I was calling you a jerk - I was pointing to what I have I've seen on this site. Someone answering a question with that attitude of wtf are you doing? Then getting angry when called on that attitude. I'm more than happy to leave. BP...is that what you were suggesting MR, with your comment about the door?

Nope. Door to this thread.

When you point a finger at someone, three fingers are pointing at you...

Chill, move on...

When you point a finger at someone, three fingers are pointing at you...

Chill, move on...

And this is to?

Personally, I thought the rant and rave section was for complaining about our bariatric surgery complications or troubles, not about complaining about other members or what they post, especially behind their backs, names mentioned or not. Apparently I'm wrong. It's a shame this is allowed, even in the rant and rave section.

I understand it can get old to hear the same things over and over again. That should just mean that you've "graduated" and should move on, otherwise don't complain and be supportive and helpful.

As suggested by a veteran of this site I think I will move on, to a different site where I don't have to worry about someone bitching about what I post.

I'm so sorry that us "newbies" bother you with our questions ...its really interesting ,I thought this was a forum?? Hmm maybe I'm wrong though,I am new and all.

You are right this is in rants and raves but have a bit of sympathy for someone who is new at this.

***sprinkling harder***