Someone recently passed this article on to me, which I posted on another board. It was promptly removed. So sad . . .

Frightening News from France

Once again, the real news in France is conveniently

not being reported as it should. To give you an idea

of what's going on in France where there are now

between 5 and 6 million Muslims and about 600,000 Jews,

here is an email that came from a Jew living in

France. Please read! Will the world say nothing - again - as it did in Hitler's time?

"I AM A JEW -- therefore I am forwarding this to

everyone on all my e-mail lists. I will not sit back

and do nothing." Nowhere have the flames of

anti-Semitism burned more furiously than in France:

Lyon, a car was rammed into a synagogue and set

on fire. In Montpellier, the Jewish religious center

was firebombed; so were synagogues in Strasbourg and

Marseilles; so was a Jewish school in Creteil - all recently.

A Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with

Molotov cocktails, and on the statue of Alfred

Dreyfus in Paris, the words "Dirty Jew" were

painted. In Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a

Jewish football team with sticks and metal bars. The

bus that takes Jewish children to school in

Aubervilliers has been attacked three times in the last 14 months.

According to the Police, metropolitan Paris has seen

10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents PER DAY in the past

30 days. Walls in Jewish neighborhoods have been

defaced with slogans proclaiming "Jews to the gas

chambers" and "Death to the Jews."

A gunman opened fire on a Kosher butcher's shop

(and, of course, the butcher) in Toulouse , France;

a Jewish couple in their 20s were beaten up by five

men in Villeurbanne , France . The woman was

pregnant; a Jewish school was broken into and

vandalized in Sarcelles , France . This was just in

the past week.

So I call on you, whether you are a fellow Jew, a

friend, or merely a person with the capacity and

desire to distinguish decency from depravity, to do,

at least, these three simple things:

First, care enough to stay informed. Don't ever let

yourself become deluded into thinking that this is

no t your fight. I remind you of what Pastor

Neimoller said in World War II: "First they came for

the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I

wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and

I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they

came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up,

because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me,

and by that time there was no one left to speak up

for me".

Second, boycott France and French products. Only the

Arab countries are more toxically anti-Semitic and,

unlike them, France exports more than just oil and

hatred. So boycott their wines and their perfumes.

Boycott their clothes and their foodstuffs. Boycott

their movies. Definitely boycott their shores. If

we are resolved we can exert amazing pressure and,

whatever else we may know about the French, we most

certainly know that they are like a cobweb in a

hurricane in the face of well directed pressure.

Third, send this along to your family, your friends,

and your co-workers. Think of all of the people of

good conscience that you know and let them know

that you and the people that you care about need

their help. The number one best selling book in

France is "September 11: The Frightening Fraud,"

which argues that no plane ever hit the Pentagon."

When a wise man engages a fool in a debate, people watching the debate have a hard time deciding who is the fool.

I don't get to decide who goes to heaven or hell or what is right or wrong . . . God does. You have a problem with that, take it up with HIM!

If you call dialog based upon what someone things or feels, with nothing to back it up as being intelligent debate, perhaps we have a different understanding of what intelligent debate is. Accepting that would be like having your doctor give you an injection of whatever he feels like, for any reason he wants, with no evidence to substanciate that it have any value.

If you were to present some evidence to back-up all of your remarks and opinions, maybe we would have a serious debate here, but it's apparent that it won't happen, will it??

You seem to always want to get back into politics! It seems like your hatred of our President if far more important to you than anything else. Maybe it's you who needs to get a sense of humor.

I have a great sense of humor. I'm talking to you!!:clap2:

Maybe you need to ask Jesus for a sense of humor.

If anything, I was giving you credit for being able to hold off two debaters at once.

And it wasn't I who made fun of another member's name. I am not Grumpy(-Old-Man), but your lack of a sense of humor might lead you to become grumpy.

Who says my points have not been intelligent? You?

Who says we have not had a meaningful discussion? You?

You do remind me of our favorite president. You know the one who wants bipartisanship, by which he means, “see it my (party's) way”.

Would the discussion be more meaningful if I said, "Ron, you have opened my eyes. I now KNOW that every word of the Bible is “word for word” true and that only with a personal relationship with Jesus Christ will anyone ever be able to gain eternal life. PS: All Muslims, most Jews and many other people who worship the wrong way are doomed to eternal damnation. Thank you, Ron. Thank you."

Now, that's what we call meaningful dialog!!:faint:

Well Tommy Boy,

If you took the time to read the thread, you would know that I am not a Pastor and do not have a flock.

So why don't you just show me where I made that claim!! I challange you!! You are fast with the wise cracks and snide remarks. Do you have anything to back them up, or are you just a lot of hot air??

C'mon Rony Boy you never stop making THE CLAIM, you know it all and have all the answers. I bet you love patting your flock on their heads and telling them how proud you are of them as they live thier lives as you, I mean Christ, has chosen.

Well now, it sounds like you may be getting upset, shouldn't you be turning the other cheek??

If you can't take the heat stay out of the kicthen Rony Boy.

You would like me to get upset, wouldn't you? Not going to happen. Nice try though, trying to change the subject!!

I'm still waiting for you to back up all of your hot air Tommy Boy. You don't want everyone here to think you're a big blowhard would you!!

Well now, it sounds like you may be getting upset, shouldn't you be turning the other cheek??

If you can't take the heat stay out of the kicthen Rony Boy.

Sorry but I have no need back anything up, you have done that nicely for me Rony Boy

Oh and by the way speaking of changing the subject, what ever happened to your desire to fight Anti-Semitism in France. You know that whole boycott the evil French thing. Is iy okay if we fight Anti-Semtism everywhere or is it only important to boycott country's that chose not to agree with American policy.

Oh and are we able to fight Anti-Semitism against all Jews or only those who are completed?

Nice try again, Tommy Boy! Keep changing the subject! You apparently have nothing to back-up anything you say! Like I said previously, you are real good at making accusations, snide remarks and innuendo, but when it come to showing that anything you say has any merit, you fold up like a cheap tent. Johnny Cash decribed you well in the words of a song when he said "you still is what you are" - a windbag looking to incite trouble, and sounding like a fool!!

If you can't come up with something to back up what you say, Tommy Boy, maybe YOU should get out of the kitchen.

Oh and by the way speaking of changing the subject, what ever happened to your desire to fight Anti-Semitism in France. You know that whole boycott the evil French thing. Is iy okay if we fight Anti-Semtism everywhere or is it only important to boycott country's that chose not to agree with American policy.

Oh and are we able to fight Anti-Semitism against all Jews or only those who are completed?

I think your missing the point Rony Boy, You continue to prove my point in every statement you make. Your incredible wisdom seems to be void of any vision but it's good to see that you are now quoting Johnny Cash and not just the bible.

And now the name calling, it seems so un-Christian for such a holy man. My goodness God would be mad I think. Maybe just those comments are just the rants of of "ravening wolf"

Still not upset Rony Boy!!

Not at all, considering where it's coming from! The Bible was right when it said, "The fool hath said in his heart that there is no God"! If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, it's a duck!!

Not name calling, just making an observation based upon the things you say, and don't say!

If your sole purpose in posting to me is to bait me, don't waste your time or mine. I would rather use ti to have discussion with people that have the capacity to have serious intelligent discussion. I don't know how old you are, but I do have an ideal of how old you are mentally.

I think your missing the point Rony Boy, You continue to prove my point in every statement you make. Your incredible wisdom seems to be void of any vision but it's good to see that you are now quoting Johnny Cash and not just the bible.

And now the name calling, it seems so un-Christian for such a holy man. My goodness God would be mad I think. Maybe just those comments are just the rants of of "ravening wolf"

Still not upset Rony Boy!!

You want an INTELLIGENT discussion of an imaginary being?

Okay..here--in ten minutes--is pretty good evidence that you are delusional:

[ame=http://youtube.com/watch?v=HVuw1wEuaAQ]YouTube - How do we know that Christians are delusional?[/ame]

Another county heard from! Listen, if you think God is an imaginary being, go right ahead! The time will come when you will be face to face with this "imaginary being", and you can continue this discussion with Him then!

You want an INTELLIGENT discussion of an imaginary being?

Okay..here--in ten minutes--is pretty good evidence that you are delusional:

Oh I'd say your name calling there Rony Boy but I also consider the source and to the quote you use from the bible I say right back at you Rony Boy.

"I don't know how old you are but I have an idea how old you are mentally"

That coming from the guy who keeps saying things like;

"rather use ti to have discussion with people that have the capacity to have serious intelligent discussion"

and

"You don't want everyone here to think you're a big blowhard would you"

Soon you'll be getting everyone in your grade three class to stop talking to me

Keep fighting the good fight Rony Boy you scare more away then you bring in

:clap2: Is that the best you got?

Do I have to throw water on you people?!? Please, please, please stop calling one another names and being outright rude. This thread is lots of fun and very interesting, but if passions get too heated we'll have to lock it.

Don't make me come over there!