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Anti-Semitism In France!

Someone recently passed this article on to me, which I posted on another board. It was promptly removed. So sad . . .

Frightening News from France

Once again, the real news in France is conveniently

not being reported as it should. To give you an idea

of what's going on in France where there are now

between 5 and 6 million Muslims and about 600,000 Jews,

here is an email that came from a Jew living in

France. Please read! Will the world say nothing - again - as it did in Hitler's time?

"I AM A JEW -- therefore I am forwarding this to

everyone on all my e-mail lists. I will not sit back

and do nothing." Nowhere have the flames of

anti-Semitism burned more furiously than in France:

Lyon, a car was rammed into a synagogue and set

on fire. In Montpellier, the Jewish religious center

was firebombed; so were synagogues in Strasbourg and

Marseilles; so was a Jewish school in Creteil - all recently.

A Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with

Molotov cocktails, and on the statue of Alfred

Dreyfus in Paris, the words "Dirty Jew" were

painted. In Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a

Jewish football team with sticks and metal bars. The

bus that takes Jewish children to school in

Aubervilliers has been attacked three times in the last 14 months.

According to the Police, metropolitan Paris has seen

10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents PER DAY in the past

30 days. Walls in Jewish neighborhoods have been

defaced with slogans proclaiming "Jews to the gas

chambers" and "Death to the Jews."

A gunman opened fire on a Kosher butcher's shop

(and, of course, the butcher) in Toulouse , France;

a Jewish couple in their 20s were beaten up by five

men in Villeurbanne , France . The woman was

pregnant; a Jewish school was broken into and

vandalized in Sarcelles , France . This was just in

the past week.

So I call on you, whether you are a fellow Jew, a

friend, or merely a person with the capacity and

desire to distinguish decency from depravity, to do,

at least, these three simple things:

First, care enough to stay informed. Don't ever let

yourself become deluded into thinking that this is

no t your fight. I remind you of what Pastor

Neimoller said in World War II: "First they came for

the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I

wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and

I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they

came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up,

because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me,

and by that time there was no one left to speak up

for me".

Second, boycott France and French products. Only the

Arab countries are more toxically anti-Semitic and,

unlike them, France exports more than just oil and

hatred. So boycott their wines and their perfumes.

Boycott their clothes and their foodstuffs. Boycott

their movies. Definitely boycott their shores. If

we are resolved we can exert amazing pressure and,

whatever else we may know about the French, we most

certainly know that they are like a cobweb in a

hurricane in the face of well directed pressure.

Third, send this along to your family, your friends,

and your co-workers. Think of all of the people of

good conscience that you know and let them know

that you and the people that you care about need

their help. The number one best selling book in

France is "September 11: The Frightening Fraud,"

which argues that no plane ever hit the Pentagon."

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Ron, baby: This is to you. If I have in some small way been able to get under your skin (as I apparently have) as much as you've gotten under the skin of many people here, then I've done my job. I can leave here now happy in the knowledge that you have bristled enough under the weight of my comments to completely show the depth and breadth of your brain power.

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Nah! You havn't gotten under my skin at all. I just consider the source! I really hoped to have serious discussion about a serious subject here, and a few folks were very able to participate. Some were not, and I guess that includes you.

I suspect that if I got under the skin of some people, it was that they really didn't want to hear what I was saying, rather than being offended by who was saying it. If I offended someone personally, it was not intentional. You, on the other hand, had the goal of personally offending me, which says an awful lot about what you are all about. If you are that shallow, I pity you!

If I offended someone personally, it was not intentional.
I call bullshit. Calling people idiots isn't exactly unintentional.

For the record, I am also thrilled that you found something that makes you happy. I just don't think that gives you the right to act like an ass about other people's beliefs.

And again, it isn't who was saying it that pissed people off, it was HOW you were saying it. I don't go up to Christians and say, "I'm SO sorry that you will never find the eternal paradise you are looking for. Let me rescue you from your misguided ways!" But apparently, you see nothing wrong in doing just that to those of us who are Christians.

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Idiots! If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck! Or should I say Quack Quack??

I never said those things but that's apparently what you got from it. Yeah, you were offended by the message alright! And naw, I won't curse back at you. I can express myseld without it.

I call bullshit. Calling people idiots isn't exactly unintentional.

For the record, I am also thrilled that you found something that makes you happy. I just don't think that gives you the right to act like an ass about other people's beliefs.

And again, it isn't who was saying it that pissed people off, it was HOW you were saying it. I don't go up to Christians and say, "I'm SO sorry that you will never find the eternal paradise you are looking for. Let me rescue you from your misguided ways!" But apparently, you see nothing wrong in doing just that to those of us who are Christians.

I call bullshit.
And naw, I won't curse back at you. I can express myseld without it.

Haven't you ever heard of Bullshit? It's a CARD GAME, for Pete's sake. One that KIDS PLAY! The point of it is to figure out when someone is lying about their cards. I used that terminology to infer that you were lying!
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My grandkids don't play games like that, but I got the point. Think what you want! I know what my intentions were and so does God. You want to think otherwise, knock yourself out!

Haven't you ever heard of Bullshit? It's a CARD GAME, for Pete's sake. One that KIDS PLAY! The point of it is to figure out when someone is lying about their cards. I used that terminology to infer that you were lying!
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There is no question in my mind, just like there is no question in my mind regarding what I believe. And that is sincere!

You know, I sincerely hope so.:rolleyes

Actually, I was saying that I hope God sees what your true intentions were, and I hope he sees your attitude towards other beliefs, too. The true measure of a person is in what they do, not what they say.

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I am sure He see's what my attitude is toward other beliefs, and that He is very pleased. The Bible says that the "ONLY way to the Father is through Messiah Jesus", so if I discount other belief systems, it is only because God does as well.

Actually, I was saying that I hope God sees what your true intentions were, and I hope he sees your attitude towards other beliefs, too.

If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? 1 John 4:20

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Great verse! So what is your point? I don't hate anyone if that is what you are implying!!

If I am not mistaking, you said you were an athiest! Interesting that you would choose to quote scripture that you don't believe in.

If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? 1 John 4:20

I don't believe in it, but I think it is the only way to get through to you. When you are talking to someone that only speaks Japanese, you use Japanese, correct?

Your very words deny what you believe in. You can't attack someone's beliefs and then say you love them. A person's belief system is intrinsic to them, a part of them. You can't hate only part of a person.

ETA: Very words, not every action. Obviously, I don't know squat about what you do off the board.

No, no, no, you've got me all wrong! I didn't mean to offend you, Ron! If you think that's what I meant by what I said, I apologize!

I have been learning so much here by what you've said. You may not like me or what I've said, but I certainly am not upset or offended by anything you've said, in the least. God knows my intentions. God knows me, just like I know God. I am very happy with my beliefs. If you misunderstand or your beliefs are very different from mine, that is your prerrogative, of course. I am not trying to sway you or convince you of anything. I just know that you would be a much happier and more fulfilled person if you would believe that name-calling and being rude to people is not what Jesus would do if he were in your shoes trying to convince people that they are wrong.

Idiots! If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it must be a duck. Woof, woof.

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Actually, you have it backward! If I didn't care, I would just say, hey, believe what you want even if it takes you to Hell. Not my problem! Because I do care, I can't accept a belief system that will bring you that end. You know, Jesus called the Pharisees hypocrites with Satan being their Father! He told them their lack of belief would lead to damnation. And you think I have been harsh! Jesus didn't hate them, he hated their belief system. I don't hate athiests or anyone here, I hate the belief system. Yes, there is a difference.

I don't believe in it, but I think it is the only way to get through to you. When you are talking to someone that only speaks Japanese, you use Japanese, correct?

Your very words deny what you believe in. You can't attack someone's beliefs and then say you love them. A person's belief system is intrinsic to them, a part of them. You can't hate only part of a person.

ETA: Very words, not every action. Obviously, I don't know squat about what you do off the board.

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