Someone recently passed this article on to me, which I posted on another board. It was promptly removed. So sad . . .

Frightening News from France

Once again, the real news in France is conveniently

not being reported as it should. To give you an idea

of what's going on in France where there are now

between 5 and 6 million Muslims and about 600,000 Jews,

here is an email that came from a Jew living in

France. Please read! Will the world say nothing - again - as it did in Hitler's time?

"I AM A JEW -- therefore I am forwarding this to

everyone on all my e-mail lists. I will not sit back

and do nothing." Nowhere have the flames of

anti-Semitism burned more furiously than in France:

Lyon, a car was rammed into a synagogue and set

on fire. In Montpellier, the Jewish religious center

was firebombed; so were synagogues in Strasbourg and

Marseilles; so was a Jewish school in Creteil - all recently.

A Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with

Molotov cocktails, and on the statue of Alfred

Dreyfus in Paris, the words "Dirty Jew" were

painted. In Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a

Jewish football team with sticks and metal bars. The

bus that takes Jewish children to school in

Aubervilliers has been attacked three times in the last 14 months.

According to the Police, metropolitan Paris has seen

10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents PER DAY in the past

30 days. Walls in Jewish neighborhoods have been

defaced with slogans proclaiming "Jews to the gas

chambers" and "Death to the Jews."

A gunman opened fire on a Kosher butcher's shop

(and, of course, the butcher) in Toulouse , France;

a Jewish couple in their 20s were beaten up by five

men in Villeurbanne , France . The woman was

pregnant; a Jewish school was broken into and

vandalized in Sarcelles , France . This was just in

the past week.

So I call on you, whether you are a fellow Jew, a

friend, or merely a person with the capacity and

desire to distinguish decency from depravity, to do,

at least, these three simple things:

First, care enough to stay informed. Don't ever let

yourself become deluded into thinking that this is

no t your fight. I remind you of what Pastor

Neimoller said in World War II: "First they came for

the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I

wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and

I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they

came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up,

because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me,

and by that time there was no one left to speak up

for me".

Second, boycott France and French products. Only the

Arab countries are more toxically anti-Semitic and,

unlike them, France exports more than just oil and

hatred. So boycott their wines and their perfumes.

Boycott their clothes and their foodstuffs. Boycott

their movies. Definitely boycott their shores. If

we are resolved we can exert amazing pressure and,

whatever else we may know about the French, we most

certainly know that they are like a cobweb in a

hurricane in the face of well directed pressure.

Third, send this along to your family, your friends,

and your co-workers. Think of all of the people of

good conscience that you know and let them know

that you and the people that you care about need

their help. The number one best selling book in

France is "September 11: The Frightening Fraud,"

which argues that no plane ever hit the Pentagon."

Still wondering what "you are your shadow" means, Ron Cusano.

I'm not sure, but I think he means "you and your shadow". As in, he thinks I am your little tagalong. He apparently doesn't understand how two people can actually stick up for each other.

ETA: Removed a statement that I think may have been a little too strong. I don't want to sink to that level.

ETA #2: Apparently, I can't spell this morning.

At this point, Ron is simply blustering. I think that in real life, he has never encountered people that challenged what he said. I think they thought that since he knew so much about the Bible (which is debatable), everything else he said had to be true, also. Here, he's encountered people that, put simply, know more than he does and aren't afraid to challenge his statements. Since we aren't standing in awe of his knowledge, we're somehow attacking his Christianity.

At this point, Ron is simply blustering. I think that in real life, he has never encountered people that challenged what he said. I think they thought that since he knew so much about the Bible (which is debatable), everything else he said had to be true, also. Here, he's encountered people that, put simply, know more than he does and aren't afraid to challenge his statements. Since we aren't standing in awe of his knowledge, we're somehow attacking his Christianity.

He's a strange cat. I've never met anyone quite like him in my real life. Have any of you?

I'm not sure, but I think he means "you and your shadow". As in, he thinks I am your little tagalong. He apparently doesn't understand how two people can actually stick up for each other.

Ah, that could be. I do tend to read literally (to avoid reading subjectively, as much as possible), so I can see how that would be possible. Darnit, Laurend, I've told you to stop calling me and trying to plan out our posts. What the heck is up with this "mind of your own" stuff, anyway?

Your garbage isn't even worth a comment. You are just pitiful!

So you find it difficult to function. Is that how you're explaining your own wrongs? So rather than "I'm wrong", it's "I can't function because there are atheists and heathens here"?

No, I'm not twisting what you're saying, I'm asking. And if that's wrong, please clarify.

So now I tell lies from the pit of hell? What exactly does that mean? Are those like -- uber lies? Am I being influenced by Satan?

And you probably aren't going to believe this anyway, but what you consider "digs" I consider - showing how predictable you are. When we respond (in a way other than what you'd prefer) to our comments, it's happening because Jesus prophesized it. When ou're backed into a corner, all of a sudden we're attacking your faith. It's been that wa since... oh, probably page 3 or 4 of this thread.. but I'd have to go back and check to be sure. It's simply a matter of making a much better window than a door.

Your garbage isn't even worth a comment. You are just pitiful!

Nice "cop out", I believe you called it.

He's a strange cat. I've never met anyone quite like him in my real life. Have any of you?

I've met people that I think could be future-Rons. Does that count? My first semester teaching, the class I was assisting in was a biology class for education majors. I have never seen such a close-minded group in my life. There were a couple of ring-leaders that were absolutely frustrating. We'd tell them how evolutionary theory was supported, and they would just say, "Nope, don't believe you. So-and-so wrote a book that says otherwise." I just wanted to yell at them, "So-and-so didn't know what he was talking about. Everything you've said is COMPLETELY WRONG! I'm not going to discuss this with you until you've got a legitimate argument, because all the objections to the theory that you've come up with are explainable when you know even a tad about evolution, biology, geology, etc."

It was mind-boggling to realize that they were going to become public school teachers and that they were going to have to teach the theory, especially since they probably weren't even going to teach it correctly, anyway.

Your garbage isn't even worth a comment. You are just pitiful!

What stage are we at, so far?

Ah, that could be. I do tend to read literally (to avoid reading subjectively, as much as possible), so I can see how that would be possible. Darnit, Laurend, I've told you to stop calling me and trying to plan out our posts. What the heck is up with this "mind of your own" stuff, anyway?

:hail:

Personally, I like watching Ron go:boom:. It's fun.

You are the one who is so impressed with herself. I don't mind being challanged if we are talking about real issues. You love to make a big deal about nothing. It seem to give you some meaning in you life I guess! You find my knowledge of the Bible "debatable" but I don't see you finding anything specific to point out?

At this point, Ron is simply blustering. I think that in real life, he has never encountered people that challenged what he said. I think they thought that since he knew so much about the Bible (which is debatable), everything else he said had to be true, also. Here, he's encountered people that, put simply, know more than he does and aren't afraid to challenge his statements. Since we aren't standing in awe of his knowledge, we're somehow attacking his Christianity.

You are the one who is so impressed with herself. I don't mind being challanged if we are talking about real issues. You love to make a big deal about nothing. It seem to give you some meaning in you life I guess! You find my knowledge of the Bible "debatable" but I don't see you finding anything specific to point out?

You don't mind being challenged? Right, I guess we all just imagined the past 103 pages of this thread. You are starting to sound like, "I'm rubber, you're glue. Anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you!" Grow up a little, Ron. It's sad when someone a fraction of your age is more mature than you. I find your knowledge of the Bible debatable because you have been wrong about everything else that you've talked about with the same seeming "authority". I think it's pretty common-sense to think that maybe you really don't know as much as you think you do.

And by the way? I'm not impressed with myself. I know my limitations, and I abide by them. I know that I don't know everything.

Ron, I disagree with Laurend you seem to have a very strong knowleged of the bible. As matter of fact you seem to have most of it memorized or in the very least you know it well enough to find the verse that backs up your position. If you only had some capacity for abstract thought you could then take that knowlegde and use it to come to some thought provoking ideas. Ron you are not an idea man, you are capable of reading the bible but unable to intepret it's words, it seems that you are able to understand the words literally.

Abstract thinking is not your strong suit, that has been verified on this thread over and over again. You may want to stick to threads that are not in the Rant and Rave section. Many of the the folks who post in here love the debate and are very good abstract thinkers. They are also very well read and highly intelligent (believe me I do not put myself in that category, but I enjoy reading the posts) someone with your literal style and limited capacity for abstract thought can become painfully exposed here.

I also try to add a little humour now and then

Sounds like we finally may get some school teachers that didn't graduate from Secular-Humanist U! Sounds like they knew what they were talking about!

I've met people that I think could be future-Rons. Does that count? My first semester teaching, the class I was assisting in was a biology class for education majors. I have never seen such a close-minded group in my life. There were a couple of ring-leaders that were absolutely frustrating. We'd tell them how evolutionary theory was supported, and they would just say, "Nope, don't believe you. So-and-so wrote a book that says otherwise." I just wanted to yell at them, "So-and-so didn't know what he was talking about. Everything you've said is COMPLETELY WRONG! I'm not going to discuss this with you until you've got a legitimate argument, because all the objections to the theory that you've come up with are explainable when you know even a tad about evolution, biology, geology, etc."

It was mind-boggling to realize that they were going to become public school teachers and that they were going to have to teach the theory, especially since they probably weren't even going to teach it correctly, anyway.

TommyO, I have no doubt he knows the scripture in the Bible, that wasn't what I meant by saying his knowledge was debatable. I was referring to the way he interprets those scriptures and his knowledge of the actual message. He is absolutely 100% sure he is right, and he won't even contemplate the possibility that he either might be incorrect or misinterpreting. I think you and I agree on the topic, actually. Instead of considering other people's positions, he basically cries, "La-la-la, I can't hear you!"

Sounds like we finally may get some school teachers that didn't graduate from Secular-Humanist U! Sounds like they knew what they were talking about!

Actually, they were what I like to refer to as "gullible idiots". Instead of investigating the theory they were protesting, they took the word of some guy who knew absolutely nothing about what he was writing about. If they had done their homework before making up their minds, they would have known that all their so-called "proof" had been disproven with actual evidence. The horror! Someone actually expects them to be able to back up their claims! It's absurd!