Someone recently passed this article on to me, which I posted on another board. It was promptly removed. So sad . . .

Frightening News from France

Once again, the real news in France is conveniently

not being reported as it should. To give you an idea

of what's going on in France where there are now

between 5 and 6 million Muslims and about 600,000 Jews,

here is an email that came from a Jew living in

France. Please read! Will the world say nothing - again - as it did in Hitler's time?

"I AM A JEW -- therefore I am forwarding this to

everyone on all my e-mail lists. I will not sit back

and do nothing." Nowhere have the flames of

anti-Semitism burned more furiously than in France:

Lyon, a car was rammed into a synagogue and set

on fire. In Montpellier, the Jewish religious center

was firebombed; so were synagogues in Strasbourg and

Marseilles; so was a Jewish school in Creteil - all recently.

A Jewish sports club in Toulouse was attacked with

Molotov cocktails, and on the statue of Alfred

Dreyfus in Paris, the words "Dirty Jew" were

painted. In Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a

Jewish football team with sticks and metal bars. The

bus that takes Jewish children to school in

Aubervilliers has been attacked three times in the last 14 months.

According to the Police, metropolitan Paris has seen

10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents PER DAY in the past

30 days. Walls in Jewish neighborhoods have been

defaced with slogans proclaiming "Jews to the gas

chambers" and "Death to the Jews."

A gunman opened fire on a Kosher butcher's shop

(and, of course, the butcher) in Toulouse , France;

a Jewish couple in their 20s were beaten up by five

men in Villeurbanne , France . The woman was

pregnant; a Jewish school was broken into and

vandalized in Sarcelles , France . This was just in

the past week.

So I call on you, whether you are a fellow Jew, a

friend, or merely a person with the capacity and

desire to distinguish decency from depravity, to do,

at least, these three simple things:

First, care enough to stay informed. Don't ever let

yourself become deluded into thinking that this is

no t your fight. I remind you of what Pastor

Neimoller said in World War II: "First they came for

the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I

wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and

I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they

came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up,

because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me,

and by that time there was no one left to speak up

for me".

Second, boycott France and French products. Only the

Arab countries are more toxically anti-Semitic and,

unlike them, France exports more than just oil and

hatred. So boycott their wines and their perfumes.

Boycott their clothes and their foodstuffs. Boycott

their movies. Definitely boycott their shores. If

we are resolved we can exert amazing pressure and,

whatever else we may know about the French, we most

certainly know that they are like a cobweb in a

hurricane in the face of well directed pressure.

Third, send this along to your family, your friends,

and your co-workers. Think of all of the people of

good conscience that you know and let them know

that you and the people that you care about need

their help. The number one best selling book in

France is "September 11: The Frightening Fraud,"

which argues that no plane ever hit the Pentagon."

Laurend, you forgot stage 4. That's the "how pathetic", "low blow", "would have expected better", "is that the best you got", etc. stage. We'll refer to this as the "I'm rubber, you're glue" period. Remember that one? We've been there a time or two, as well. Wait - "darling" or some other equally creepy remark should be coming pretty soon (but don't rebutt it or you'll be a hypocrite), and then comes the "My faith is being attacked but I won't apologize for my beliefs !!" stage.

Come on Ron Cusano, can't you address what was said? You made an absolutely wrong statement about atheists, and "how pathetic, true to form" is your response? What question does that answer? What's pathetic is being wrong, but being so unwilling to admit it that you have to try and throw around your cliche insults to redirect the attention.

Can't you answer the question? In case you conveniently didn't see it, I'll repost:

BTW, my parents are christians. And I certainly don't hate them. [...] Do you actually believe [...] That atheists hate christians? Atheists hate most of the country's population?

You're willing to make the claim. But do you really believe what you're saying?

Tommy - excellent point.

Dipping you in chocolate and putting you on a sundae would do the sundae any good!

Really, you insult others' ability to "come up with good ones"? :funnypost:

By the way, if you're going to try to insult someone, at least type the insult correctly. Don't type something that supports what they're saying.

You want to play on samantics. You are your shadow are real pieces of work! You just love to provoke. Enjoy yourselves. I am getting a good laugh out of all your ranting!

Laurend, you forgot stage 4. That's the "how pathetic", "low blow", "would have expected better", "is that the best you got", etc. stage. We'll refer to this as the "I'm rubber, you're glue" period. Remember that one? We've been there a time or two, as well. Wait - "darling" or some other equally creepy remark should be coming pretty soon (but don't rebutt it or you'll be a hypocrite), and then comes the "My faith is being attacked but I won't apologize for my beliefs !!" stage.

Come on Ron Cusano, can't you address what was said? You made an absolutely wrong statement about atheists, and "how pathetic, true to form" is your response? What question does that answer? What's pathetic is being wrong, but being so unwilling to admit it that you have to try and throw around your cliche insults to redirect the attention.

Can't you answer the question? In case you conveniently didn't see it, I'll repost:

BTW, my parents are christians. And I certainly don't hate them. [...] Do you actually believe [...] That atheists hate christians? Atheists hate most of the country's population?

You're willing to make the claim. But do you really believe what you're saying?

Tommy - excellent point.

Allow me to ask again, for the third time.

You said atheists hate god, and when I proved you wrong you said I was "nit-picking". So then you changed it to atheists hate christians. So my question is now:

Can't you answer the question? In case you conveniently didn't see it, I'll repost:

BTW, my parents are christians. And I certainly don't hate them. [...] Do you actually believe [...] That atheists hate christians? Atheists hate most of the country's population?

Come on, surely you don't believe that it's a matter of "samantics" when you say atheists hate christians. That's pretty black and white, so if what you're saying is true, then clarify.

Don't ignore the question Ron Cusano. Selective responding...tsk tsk.

You are your shadow are real pieces of work!

I am my shadow? What does that even mean?

Maybe "hate" is not the right word. Maybe I shoue have said athiests "abhor" Christians and the very thought that there could be a God. Just so you don't twist this around also, this is a general statement, and there may be exclusions, as with the example of your parents. As a general rule, athiests that I have come across display the same distain for God and Christians that you have shown on this thread.

Allow me to ask again, for the third time.

You said atheists hate god, and when I proved you wrong you said I was "nit-picking". So then you changed it to atheists hate christians. So my question is now:

Can't you answer the question? In case you conveniently didn't see it, I'll repost:

BTW, my parents are christians. And I certainly don't hate them. [...] Do you actually believe [...] That atheists hate christians? Atheists hate most of the country's population?

Come on, surely you don't believe that it's a matter of "samantics" when you say atheists hate christians. That's pretty black and white, so if what you're saying is true, then clarify.

Don't ignore the question Ron Cusano. Selective responding...tsk tsk.

I've shown disdain for you, "Ron Cusano", not your christianity. I doubt any other christian I've actually had conversations with here have ever been made to feel inferior. That's because I have no judgement for their lives or what they choose to believe -- that's completely up to them. But I do have judgement for how anyone treats anyone else. Which is why I have disdain for you. It wouldn't matter if you were a Buddhist or Wiccan or Satanist or Nihilist... when you treat people the way you have (internet qualifier as a given), you have to expect that not everyone thinks you're a nice guy. (Yeah, that's prophesized, we know, you've already told us 14 times... and no, no one is expecting you to comrpomise your beliefs !! or apologize for believing what you do !! because, again, the element of christianity could be completely removed, and you'd still be the same Ron Cusano)

You said atheists hate god, then back tracked and said atheists hate christians, then back tracked again and said "should have said" atheists abhor christians, and are now saying that, generically, atheists display disain for god and christians.

Is that "twisting" what you've said, or is that pretty accurate?

Let's just say that the distain is mutual! You seem to delight in picking apart every phrase or comment looking for something to rag about. If you are feeling inferior, it's not because I make you feel that way. Maybe it has something to do your YOU! I am on several other boards and threads, involved in support group meetins and a host of other things where I interact with other people and even discuss faith, and I get along great with everyone. Yeah, they even think I'm a nice guy! The only place there seems to be a problem is in this venue, primarliy with you and Wheetsin. I find it very difficult to function in a heathenistic, athiest environment, where God isn't a priority. You say you don't have a problem with my beliefs, but that is a lie from the pit of Hell. You take every opportunity to throw in the little digs, such as "Yeah, that's prophesized, we know"! Do you have the capacity to be honest and admit the distain you have toward God (Yeah, I know, you can't have distain if you don't believe if God). Nice cop out!

I've shown disdain for you, "Ron Cusano", not your christianity. I doubt any other christian I've actually had conversations with here have ever been made to feel inferior. That's because I have no judgement for their lives or what they choose to believe -- that's completely up to them. But I do have judgement for how anyone treats anyone else. Which is why I have disdain for you. It wouldn't matter if you were a Buddhist or Wiccan or Satanist or Nihilist... when you treat people the way you have (internet qualifier as a given), you have to expect that not everyone thinks you're a nice guy. (Yeah, that's prophesized, we know, you've already told us 14 times... and no, no one is expecting you to comrpomise your beliefs !! or apologize for believing what you do !! because, again, the element of christianity could be completely removed, and you'd still be the same Ron Cusano)

You said atheists hate god, then back tracked and said atheists hate christians, then back tracked again and said "should have said" atheists abhor christians, and are now saying that, generically, atheists display disain for god and christians.

Is that "twisting" what you've said, or is that pretty accurate?

Let me ask again, for the second time:

You said atheists hate god, then back tracked and said atheists hate christians, then back tracked again and said "should have said" atheists abhor christians, and are now saying that, generically, atheists display disain for god and christians.

Is that "twisting" what you've said, or is that pretty accurate?

(BTW,, not picking it apart, you're words are there. And if they aren't, correct me. That's why I'm asking the question...)

Is "atheists can't have disdain for god because they don't believe in god" more of a cop out than "that doesn't even deserve a reply !!"?

Do you have the capacity to be honest and admit the distain you have toward God (Yeah, I know, you can't have distain if you don't believe if God). Nice cop out!

Sure I have the capacity. But your logic follows the same lines of the Salem witch trials.

1. Admit you have disdain, even if you don't have it, and be labeled as a "disdainer".
   
2. Deny that you have disdain, which you don't have, and be labeled as "unable to tell the truth".

So which is the best route to take? You've already made up your mind, and either I'm disdainful, or I'm lying. So per your own logic, is there a door #3? Becuse you're only presenting two possible outcomes.

I find it very difficult to function in a heathenistic, athiest environment, where God isn't a priority. You say you don't have a problem with my beliefs, but that is a lie from the pit of Hell.

So you find it difficult to function. Is that how you're explaining your own wrongs? So rather than "I'm wrong", it's "I can't function because there are atheists and heathens here"?

No, I'm not twisting what you're saying, I'm asking. And if that's wrong, please clarify.

So now I tell lies from the pit of hell? What exactly does that mean? Are those like -- uber lies? Am I being influenced by Satan?

And you probably aren't going to believe this anyway, but what you consider "digs" I consider - showing how predictable you are. When we respond (in a way other than what you'd prefer) to our comments, it's happening because Jesus prophesized it. When ou're backed into a corner, all of a sudden we're attacking your faith. It's been that wa since... oh, probably page 3 or 4 of this thread.. but I'd have to go back and check to be sure. It's simply a matter of making a much better window than a door.

My pologies for the many posts. There was a lot there, and I should have consolidated. My bad.

Still wondering what "you are your shadow" means, Ron Cusano.

That's either silly, or very profound. Kind of like, wherever you go, there you are.

I find it very difficult to function in a heathenistic, athiest environment, where God isn't a priority. You say you don't have a problem with my beliefs, but that is a lie from the pit of Hell. You take every opportunity to throw in the little digs, such as "Yeah, that's prophesized, we know"! Do you have the capacity to be honest and admit the distain you have toward God (Yeah, I know, you can't have distain if you don't believe if God). Nice cop out!

Well, it does sound from the above remarks that you would have a difficult time living in a pluralistic society, that a theocracy is really what you wish to see in place in your country, nicht war?

I thought the format on this board was to argue and discuss! So are you saying that if we disagree with someone, we shouldn't argue the point. I respect everyone right to have their own opinion, but does that preclude arguing against it. I think everyone might be happy if I just agreed with their view points, right!! Give me a break! You consider that being a bully?

No, I considered that the manner in which you answered ousooner, by putting apostrophes around the word Christian when you applied to the title to him, as being very disrespectful for this implies that you feel that his Christianity is in doubt. This was a low blow indeed! And certainly it is not up to you to judge the relationship that a fellow Christian has with his God.

A more reasonable, less bullying fellow would have said that he couldn't agree on the point which was under discussion and then he would provide his reasons in a measured voice.