I was reading another forum last night and a woman just got back from a seminar with her bariatric doctors they told the people that the sleeve is great, but also said that after about the five year mark the restriction goes away and hunger is back all the way and most need to be re-sleeved!! Thoughts?

So I've been thinking about it all day, and have done some poking about a bit and some reading..

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Endocrinology/Obesity/40490

And I found this an interesting statement coming from a doctor at a bariatric conference...

“Doctors are constantly concerned with durability. The gastric sleeve gained instant popularity because it is quick and easy to master, and is a less difficult operation than a bypass,” said Dr. Coon. However, he stressed the need for surgeons to learn all of the facts, perform extensive prep work, and communicate effectively with each patient before deciding whether the sleeve gastrectomy is appropriate.

“With new surgeries, outcome is always hard to predict,” he said. “If five years from now it still seems to be a good operation, then it probably will continue — and then again it might fail. Regardless, people will continue to promote it or disagree with it.”

Thanks!!!!

Oh a picture of me waiting and scared for my weigh in!! Butters request

Wow! Look at the bitty waist!!

This article - based on rats not people - really makes me question the 5:2 plan...

http://www.drsharma.ca/metabolic-effects-of-alternate-day-fasting-in-rats.html

This article - based on rats not people - really makes me question the 5:2 plan...

http://www.drsharma.ca/metabolic-effects-of-alternate-day-fasting-in-rats.html

Well the thing is, these rats were fed high fat on none fast days... That to me would be the equivalent of me fasting then eating McDonalds,

Then fasting again and McDonalds...

I don't go crazy (for the most part) on my feed days.

gamergirl, your posts usually ALWAYS cheer my day -in a most sarcastic kind of way! Love it!!!!

Well the thing is, these rats were fed high fat on none fast days... That to me would be the equivalent of me fasting then eating McDonalds,

Then fasting again and McDonalds...

I don't go crazy (for the most part) on my feed days.

Well, and also isn't it based on a high fat diet anyway? How many of us are actually eating a high fat diet? I know I'm not. And doing 5:2, I REALLY got my act under control!

I decided to really make the changes necessary to get back to my goal weight and change my lifestyle. With that in mind, I

1. Started 5:2

2. Started logging EVERYTHING on MFP

3. Cut out all junk and most "prepared" foods with the exception of the occasional treat maybe once a week (ie., birthday cake/dessert)

4. Bought a Fitbit

5. Stick to a 1200 calorie day plan most ALL non-fast days. My diet is not high fat in any stretch of the imagination.

Now, if people are taking the 5:2 or AF as a way to fast one day and as Laura said, eat as they please not regarding fat, calorie content, sugar content or making healthy choices, I don't think it would make much difference overall whether they were fasting or not.

Aren't most people doing 5:2 or AF, eating within range and more healthy overall? I need to really look at what people are doing on their "off days."

Yep BFF! Mindful eating on your feed days are a must!

Yep BFF! Mindful eating on your feed days are a must!

The other thing is even the high-fat fasting rats lost abdominal fat. The only boo-boo was not the best glucose functioning/metabolism. If your blood sugars are low, and your diet is low in both carbs and sugar, that may not be a show stopper.

Holy Moly, Laura......You look so amazing! Your brows are fierce & I like your boogie on your nose too!

Holy Moly, Laura......You look so amazing! Your brows are fierce & I like your boogie on your nose too!

Lol! A boogie???

Your nose ring....Love it!

Your nose ring....Love it!

Girl my eyesight is so bad I didn't even know you could tell that I have one!

Ok busted yes I've had it for, get this 27 years!!!!

Yep got it at San Francisco gay pride parade when I was 20 years old.... Oh thems was the days!!

Such a REBEL!

Seriously though, you look FAB!

You do look great - many would kill to look so good!

I eat pretty healthy all the time. It is a self fullfilling thing - i can't handle junky food anymore as it tends to make me feel horrid. It's like you need to be "in training" to eat fried or overly sweet or excessively rich dairy (ice cream) or else indulging makes you feel icky.

Anyway, I am happy with my weight - was 155# this morning and i am still doing the 5:2 but i don't track food and so am not sure that I hit the ideal targets. At this point, I am more about maintaining then even caring about those 5-10# pounds that would put me in my dream weight range of the 140s.

You do look great - many would kill to look so good!

I eat pretty healthy all the time. It is a self fullfilling thing - i can't handle junky food anymore as it tends to make me feel horrid. It's like you need to be "in training" to eat fried or overly sweet or excessively rich dairy (ice cream) or else indulging makes you feel icky.

You know I was going to say just now you lucky dog! I can eat ANYTHING and I feel fine....

But sometimes I think I'm not as "in tune" with my body as I should be....

I feel crappy today, I felt like I was going to puke whilst mountain biking. My sleeve feels like poop even though its a fast day and I've not eaten yet..

What's wrong? What's changed? I'm wearing padded compression shorts, could that be it? Them pressing on my stomach?

Or could it be that after that terrifying doctors appointment yesterday that my food intake was less than stellar? Yes after the stress was done I ate bites of things I don't normally have anymore

(Mashed potato bites, a few potato chips, etc)

Ummm... Can these things have a delayed reaction of making me feel crappy and bloated.

I look at all these people here that can't tolerate this or can't tolerate that and I think "must be nice" but I'm thinking now that they might have little less of a pain tolerance than me???

Do I just power past those signals??

A binge eater= high tolerance for discomfort= possibilities of stuffing even with the sleeve=

A potentially less than stellar long term outcome.

Anyway, I am happy with my weight - was 155# this morning and i am still doing the 5:2 but i don't track food and so am not sure that I hit the ideal targets. At this point, I am more about maintaining then even caring about those 5-10# pounds that would put me in my dream weight range of the 140s.

The 5:2? It sounds like you haven't really found much benefit from it? And that's ok if you don't!