I am really sick and tired of being lectured on this site...people assuming just because I was fat, that I had an unhealthy relationship with food. Not everyone was like this! Pre op, I never ate to excess because when I was full I would stop eating. (I was on a low calorie lifestyle change and stuck with it for years...I stuck with it so I wouldn't gain weight) Fat people get this stereotype from those on the outside all the time (that we eat a lot)and I finally thought this was a place of non judgement. I am aware many on this site got the way they are because they ate a lot but not everyone. Same goes with exercising: people are lecturing that you have to make sure you exercise daily or else and half of these holier than now lectures haven't seen the inside of a gym until this year. Which isnt a problem because they have chosen to make a change but do not lecture others when you dont know their history. Finally...being lectured about my post op drinks. Everyone is given a list by their drs and are not supposed to stray away from that list. I was told 2oz 3x per day of boost, ensure, atkins, slim fast, etc. I am constantly being told these are not healthy...and being read the nutrition facts..um I have it right in front of me and can read but honestly if my dr says to drink it I will.

Bite me' date=' Unicorn.

You think you are all that but

You smell like fruit poo.

Fat girl Haiku. Don't be jealous.[/quote']

You rhymed poo with haiku! Hehehe...

I'm sorry Janice! Don't cry I'm not making fun of you! I'm just being silly

You were one of the few who wasnt. I guess you are right about being emotional post surgery because I never cry over stuff like this...guess its just hitting me now. I am unsubscribing to this thread anyhow.

Ooh Lord.

Laura did it! (oh and Psst... 3 musketeers i dont like milky way)

Thank you all for making fun of my post enough to put me in tears...the sarcastic "you all are off topic " comments and the fact that it doesnt matter because it is a rant. I am now unsubscribing to my own thread and pretty close to unsubsribing to the entire forum. ..

I'm really not a mean person but when someone gives me an attitude I am not gonna sit back and watch it. Thank you ladies...you have reminded me of why I do not have many female friends.

You really gotta not let the mostly light heart jibes get you. No one means anything by it. With being so newly post op your are emotional whether you realize it or not. And more than likely in a few weeks when you move on to stages where you can have real food you won't let this bother you. And remember we can't worry what others think or post you got too much work ahead of you to waste energy. If the info you get here works for you use it if it doesn't ignore it. We each have that freedom. Hope it gets better....easier for you.

Thank you all for making fun of my post enough to put me in tears...the sarcastic "you all are off topic " comments and the fact that it doesnt matter because it is a rant. I am now unsubscribing to my own thread and pretty close to unsubsribing to the entire forum. ..

I'm really not a mean person but when someone gives me an attitude I am not gonna sit back and watch it. Thank you ladies...you have reminded me of why I do not have many female friends.

I hate that you feel this way, but I really do think you are taking this far too seriously and very personally when that is not at all MY intention. I understand your "rant" even if I don't really agree with it. As stated before, you can't control the postings of others on a public forum and I am one who would much rather have fun than dwell on negativity.

Earlier I stated that you seem to be sensitive and defensive when there really is no need and you denied it. Do you not see it in this very thread? I would love it if you joined in with the group and just had a little fun. Life is far too short to be so serious. C'mon...try out some fat girl haiku. It's fun!

That's right mean girls! Kiss my pink fluffy ass!

( by the way this is going to look really weird when I put my old picture back )

That's right mean girls! Kiss my pink fluffy ass!

( by the way this is going to look really weird when I put my old picture back )

Mmmmmm...smells like cotton candy. NOT.

Perhaps I am a little emotional myself. I took the original post as blanket criticism of the rest of us who are fat because we cannot control our fork and the poster's dislike of being lumped in with the rest of us since she is different. It is entirely possible she did not mean it that way. I had a hard day and I perceived that everyone I dealt with was trying to pick a fight with me. Hmmm. I may be PMSing. Someone pass over that unwanted Milkyway.......

Girl I'm ready to argue over these so called muffin tops!!

I'm so sick of all this crap being marketed to us silly Americans! Low fat this' date=' sugar free that vitamin infused crap! Have you seen the new Greek yogurt **** Greek yogurt ice cream Greek yogurt cereal..

Processed **** sold as healthy for us!!

Ok breathe unicorn, breathe... [/quote']

Sounds like you are starting to rant to me. Keep this up and I am going to have to give you a lecture. Or did I just do that?

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Weight loss and weight gain is simple. It's calories in vs calories burned...we all know that. Sure, metabolism has some influence on that equation but every human still has a resting basal metabolic rate. Based on age and height/weight and activity level, it's a mathematical configuration that will tell you how many calories you need to maintain your current weight. If you eat more, you gain weight. I don't understand how a human being can eat at such a restrictive level, calorically speaking, and become morbidly obese. It's not that complicated and even if you had extremely poor metabolism, you still need at least 1,000 per day to pump blood through your heart and oxygenate your lungs, etc. Your situation is very interesting and suprising to learn about. Best of luck!

Why can't we all just agree to disagree? Can't we all just get along? I am not trying to lecture or make fun of anyone, but I've noticed a growing number of overly sensitive people on the forum lately. As I have said in previous posts, comments can sympathetic and empathetic but someone can also sometimes hear tough love. I'm sure some people say things that are mean spirited but I don't think the majority of posters mean to be that way. This is a forum of honest dialogue something's we like to hear and others we do not. It is up to the person to take info that pertains to them seriously or with a grain of salt. However, nothing hear should be taken so seriously to drive someone to tears. Maybe a cooling off period is necessary.

Excuse me if my comments were a rant or lecture.

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I saw cats fighting

They made noise and tore out fur

I thought... forum girls

Bite me' date=' Unicorn.

You think you are all that but

You smell like fruit poo.

Fat girl Haiku. Don't be jealous.[/quote']

Wow, now that is talent not to be wasted...

I think obesity is due to 2 things... 1) eating more calories than you need, and 2) underestimating how many calories you eat. Granted, if you're weighing/measuring every single thing that goes in your mouth, you might know exactly how many calories you're eating per day. But if you're not losing weight while doing that, then it's pretty simple...you're eating MORE calories than you need.

The really HARD part for most people is keeping calories low enough day to day to consistently lose. My husband can cut out a bowl of cereal in the evenings and lose weight. Me? There isn't a bowl of cereal to cut out...I have to drop to 800 cal/day...and doing that consistently without a WLS to help is just too difficult.

As for the original post...what's the difference between a lecture and someone giving their opinion or advice? With the written word, tone and inflection is difficult to determine. I think if you feel lectured more often than not, you need to evaluate your own emotions that you're "bringing" to the thread.

I saw cats fighting

They made noise and tore out fur

Just like forum girls

How come the guys never have this type of fun, clawing each other to minced meat like the forum girls? I think we would be really bad at it we tried; it would definitely be laughable. Lol. Then we would all get together, break bread, share some beers and call it a night. Metaphorically speaking, of course...