Almost Died Fm Vsg Surgery.

[Kim David 2]

THANK YOU.

Thank you for believing me.

I was shocked that people would even think I was lying.

What would I gain?

I own a Health Insurance Agency and I have helped a lot of people get this surgery by selling plans that cover this surgery. It was a difficult task & few companies covered this. Some companies would pay for the surgery but If you were overweight they would not insure you. Catch 22. I helped them. To this day they thank me for saving their life.

I am the only one that I know about that had complications.

Me, who helps everyone gets it.

Then for people to think I am lying, need attention, am a troll.... makes me see

& understand why obesity makes a lot of people so mean spirited.

Reckon it's part of the illness. I am not mean spirited but I can/will defend myself when I am attacked. I can go up one side & down the other & smile, Simply, because I know the truth. I never 'go off' on anyone without a reason.

THANK YOU.

[Kim David 2]

I had a terrifyingly similar situation at a hospital here in Detroit this last summer. I reported with intense pelvic pain and they basically put me in a room, doped me every 4 hours and completely ignored me for 4 days. I finally called 911 as well and ended up transferred to another hospital where I had an emergency hysterectomy to remove my reproductive system that had been destroyed by an infection that had been neglected the whole time I lay there. I sued, and lost. My medical records also had no record of the issues,and half of my symptoms were gone. They told the courts I was drug seeking and had nothing wrong with me. I have no recourse, and no lawyer will take my case. I Soooo understand! This is why I'm not afraid to go to Mexico for my VSG! They have better care standards there!

THANK YOU for sharing your story.

It's greatly appreciated.

To all of those mean people who did not believe me.... I forgive you.

[Kim David 2]

Kim I read the whole thread and I don't see why you would make it all up so good for you in defending yourself and not giving in. I am having surgery this afternoon!!! I pray that I have no complications and my new life begins.

Good Luck... I am sure you will be find.

Please, have someone stay with you.

XXXOOO

[Kim David 2]

I really hate joining threads like this, but Kim - you've shared your story. You've posted an alert to people you might have wanted to warn. At this point you seem to be in a spiral of defending yourself against total strangers on the internet. There's nothing to gain in that. People will believe you, or not, but either way no one is gaining anything. At some point, the best thing you can do is say "OK" or "I agree to disagree" and walk away.

Advice is only advice before the deed is done. After that, it's criticism. In much the same way, sharing your story is spreading information, but after a point, what's the point?

Visit a different thread, give your blood pressure a break, and enjoy your time here.

I came to this site seeking information.

Wondering if this happened to anyone else.

THIS SITE... told me to tell my story.

I did that.

I've been insulted & commended.

I've gotten good info & helped other people too.

This is why I am still here.

Thank you for your time.

[Kim David 2]

Thank God you made it through that horrible experience. Besides suing your surgeon, find yourself another surgeon for your aftercare. You may need to go out of town to get one, since all local doctors know each other.

You have gone through the worst experience, so everything now is going to be SO MUCH EASIER than what you have been through. Lean on this forum for support - we are here for you.

SHaron

THANK YOU.

I am going to find another Doctor to examine me & tell me what is wrong.

I just can't understand why I can't lose weight.

If I eat too much, I throw it up.

I AM NOW, WHAT THEY CALL " A SPITTER "

This is a complication fm the surgery that a Nurse told me.

Almost ever time I eat, I spit it up.

That is not good.

[Kim David 2]

Hi Kim,I have read through this whole thread. I hope you get things figured out real soon and that justice is served.

I post here alot,I always get support. I love this site. What I am struggling to wrap my head around is why some people felt the need to bash your story and point out their opinions of inconsistencies when this is supposed to be a site where you can come and tell your story and seek advise and comfort!

I think ppl need to stop being so judgmental and have a little faith. If you don't believe her story,then don't comment! Yes,I understand that some of you think it may scare ppl away from having the sleeve. But if anyone has done the research that they should on the sleeve,they will see that the complication rate is low and the success rate high. I don't mean to come off rude,I guess I am a little appalled at the fact that as soon as one person said the story sounded fishy,so many other ppl just jumped on the bandwagon and started bashing this lady like she is a liar. When I tell my version of a story,it is hard to get my facts straight too. I'm not a liar,I pride myself on being honest,brutally honest in fact.

When I was 19 weeks pregnant with my twin daughters just last year,I had to be rushed by ambulance to the Hospital BC I was in severe,excrutiating pain. I am rolled back to the e.r bed then left there crying and screaming. No one said A WORD to me. A nurse comes about 5 minutes later and doesn't even look at me,she just gets on a computer and starts typing. I am screaming for help,that I am pregnant with twins,and that I am in pain and I am afraid I am losing them,begging her to help me,to get a doctor,to give me something for pain. She looked at me and very rudely said "the doctor is handling something more important and I can't get you something for pain until he orders it,so you'll just have to wait" then she walked away. By this time I feel like I am going to pass out. I had no cell phone with me,noone came with me as it was the middle of the night and my husband had to stay with our other 2 kids bc my mother didn't wake up to her phone ringing. It took an hour,A WHOLE HOUR of me screaming and crying and feeling my babies kicking in distress for ANYONE to come in,and as they are doubting me that I am even pregnant with twins (I was so fat you couldn't tell yet but had been going to the dr since 6 weeks pregnant) I passed out! Woke right back up to them trying to start an iv and then they gave me morphine,then finally an ultrasound tech came in and gave me an ultrasound on my kidneys and saw I had an enormous amount of kidney stones,then went on to check on the babies and lo and behold,once they saw my babies in my belly they started being sooo much nicer,as if I just wasn't worth the time before. Point is,that crazy things can happen in the hospital. Noone should have made me wait that long to even come in and take my vitals or SOMETHING. I could have died in there waiting for help if it would have been something way worse than kidney stones.

Sorry for the rambling story I am just saying that crazy,bizarre things do happen,and hospitals don't always give their patients the care they need/deserve. I am just surprised to get on here after the day I've had and see ppl being rude to someone that was reaching out for help and advise,and comfort. I've made some great friends here and I hope to keep them even after they read my post,I just had to get how I felt about this thread off of my chest...

Kim I believe your story and I wish you all the best. I think you should start your diet over. Pretend like you are newly sleeved. Start on Clear Liquids, then move up to full liquids and Protein Shakes, make sure you are taking your Vitamins also. Then after a couple weeks of full liquids go to pureeds,then on to softs. Combine all this with a good 64 ozs of liquids and day,and consistent exercise,and that weight will come off girl. Also,see another bariatric surgeon,so maybe they can try to help you figure out why you are vomiting still.. Sorry you didn't have the best experience here on this site,but you can message me anytime if you need to talk. I like to help others,it makes me feel good. To always doubt would def make me feel like a bitter person,just sayin. ((HUGS))

THANK YOU for your story.

Thank you for backing me up with truth.

I believe you. Why would you want to lie & why would I want to lie.

Yep, a clear case of "Bullying" but I'm a strong, independent woman from the south who will stand up for a cause & fight to the end when I am armed with THE TRUTH. Thank God for the strength he has given to me.

[Kim David 2]

Hi Kim,I have read through this whole thread. I hope you get things figured out real soon and that justice is served.

I post here alot,I always get support. I love this site. What I am struggling to wrap my head around is why some people felt the need to bash your story and point out their opinions of inconsistencies when this is supposed to be a site where you can come and tell your story and seek advise and comfort!

I think ppl need to stop being so judgmental and have a little faith. If you don't believe her story,then don't comment! Yes,I understand that some of you think it may scare ppl away from having the sleeve. But if anyone has done the research that they should on the sleeve,they will see that the complication rate is low and the success rate high. I don't mean to come off rude,I guess I am a little appalled at the fact that as soon as one person said the story sounded fishy,so many other ppl just jumped on the bandwagon and started bashing this lady like she is a liar. When I tell my version of a story,it is hard to get my facts straight too. I'm not a liar,I pride myself on being honest,brutally honest in fact.

When I was 19 weeks pregnant with my twin daughters just last year,I had to be rushed by ambulance to the Hospital BC I was in severe,excrutiating pain. I am rolled back to the e.r bed then left there crying and screaming. No one said A WORD to me. A nurse comes about 5 minutes later and doesn't even look at me,she just gets on a computer and starts typing. I am screaming for help,that I am pregnant with twins,and that I am in pain and I am afraid I am losing them,begging her to help me,to get a doctor,to give me something for pain. She looked at me and very rudely said "the doctor is handling something more important and I can't get you something for pain until he orders it,so you'll just have to wait" then she walked away. By this time I feel like I am going to pass out. I had no cell phone with me,noone came with me as it was the middle of the night and my husband had to stay with our other 2 kids bc my mother didn't wake up to her phone ringing. It took an hour,A WHOLE HOUR of me screaming and crying and feeling my babies kicking in distress for ANYONE to come in,and as they are doubting me that I am even pregnant with twins (I was so fat you couldn't tell yet but had been going to the dr since 6 weeks pregnant) I passed out! Woke right back up to them trying to start an iv and then they gave me morphine,then finally an ultrasound tech came in and gave me an ultrasound on my kidneys and saw I had an enormous amount of kidney stones,then went on to check on the babies and lo and behold,once they saw my babies in my belly they started being sooo much nicer,as if I just wasn't worth the time before. Point is,that crazy things can happen in the hospital. Noone should have made me wait that long to even come in and take my vitals or SOMETHING. I could have died in there waiting for help if it would have been something way worse than kidney stones.

Sorry for the rambling story I am just saying that crazy,bizarre things do happen,and hospitals don't always give their patients the care they need/deserve. I am just surprised to get on here after the day I've had and see ppl being rude to someone that was reaching out for help and advise,and comfort. I've made some great friends here and I hope to keep them even after they read my post,I just had to get how I felt about this thread off of my chest...

Kim I believe your story and I wish you all the best. I think you should start your diet over. Pretend like you are newly sleeved. Start on clear liquids,then move up to full liquids and Protein Shakes, make sure you are taking your Vitamins also. Then after a couple weeks of full liquids go to pureeds,then on to softs. Combine all this with a good 64 ozs of liquids and day,and consistent exercise,and that weight will come off girl. Also,see another bariatric surgeon,so maybe they can try to help you figure out why you are vomiting still.. Sorry you didn't have the best experience here on this site,but you can message me anytime if you need to talk. I like to help others,it makes me feel good. To always doubt would def make me feel like a bitter person,just sayin. ((HUGS))

I can't believe they did this but I DO BELIEVE YOU. How horrible!

Shame on them. You were not only fighting for your life you were fighting for your babies too. How are they?

Whew... you make me feel like a sissy after hearing your horror story.

Thank you so very much for sharing your story.

I would love to meet you someday & the twins too.

xxxoooo

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I am getting confused with the replys.

I have so many comments, I think I lost some & commented twice on others.

I really appreciate your story.

I appreciate your help in validating my story too.

It's my pleasure to get to know you.

Thanks again.

[Amanda 3.0 140]

I came to this site seeking information.

Wondering if this happened to anyone else.

THIS SITE... told me to tell my story.

I did that.

I've been insulted & commended.

I've gotten good info & helped other people too.

This is why I am still here.

Thank you for your time.

It would be nice, now that you've found this site, if you joined some of the other discussions. You could help some other people by becoming a regular participant. There is, for example, an insurance forum, you could probably really help some folks there. I think people get suspicious of people who do "drive-by" posting, where they post something, get a reaction, and then disappear. Not saying you are doing that, I am saying I hope you stick around.

[Kim David 2]

I really hate joining threads like this, but Kim - you've shared your story. You've posted an alert to people you might have wanted to warn. At this point you seem to be in a spiral of defending yourself against total strangers on the internet. There's nothing to gain in that. People will believe you, or not, but either way no one is gaining anything. At some point, the best thing you can do is say "OK" or "I agree to disagree" and walk away.

Advice is only advice before the deed is done. After that, it's criticism. In much the same way, sharing your story is spreading information, but after a point, what's the point?

Visit a different thread, give your blood pressure a break, and enjoy your time here.

Honestly... I had no idea that people were about to undergo this surgery.

I never had a clue about this site & don't know how I found it.

It was never my intention to hurt or scare anyone.

I was seeking info. Knowledge is power.

I blew this off until the LA Medical Review Panel insulted me with their lies.

Now, I am on a mission to make sure that hospital pays up & it's hard to find a Lawyer to represent this case simply because they will have to work a lot & there is not enough physical damage to be awarded a lot of money. Even though I am now A Spitter. Grrrr

After 24 hrs on this site... I do believe my problems were THE HOSPITAL.

My mistake was...NOT HAVING ANYONE STAY WITH ME.

Thank You

[Wheetsin 714]

You're welconed to be here, please don't think I meant otherwise. I'm just saying that it's rarely productive to "argue" online, or whatever the more appropriate synonym is. If people don't believe you, they don't believe you, and it's rarely worthwhile to put forth effort to change their mind or "defend" onesself. Don't let it bother you. Just my 2 cents, worth exaclty what you paid.

Now, for your problems...

Have you heard of the term "stricture" or "stenosis"? It is a complication arising from (long story short) scar tissue. It's a narrowing of a body passage. In the case of WLS, it usually occurs between the intestine and reduced stomach (or a new intestine-to-intestine connection). The primary symptom is pretty much what you're describing - vomiting, due to the inability of much to pass through the sometimes tiny opening. I think stricture rates for VSG patients are around 6% - 8%. Definiely not unheard of. And with little to no aftercare, it's enrirely possible you could have one that is undiagnosed. You might want to visit even your standard family practitioner and see what they have to say, if you don't have access to a trusted bariatric surgeon with sleeve experience.

I assume by "spit" you mean "vomit"? Or do you just prudce excess saliva and have to spit it out? (I'm not nit-picing, but there's a difference and it's significant)

As for getting nothing down but not losing weight, you haven't starved so you can get something down. Have you noticed any patterns in what you can/cannot eat or drink? Do you bring liquids back up, or just solids? Any particular types of solids? Does it seem related to time of day, or environment, or anything like that? About how many calories a day do you think you're eating? What's your Protein intake? What's your supplement regimen? Have you had any labs done recently, or post-op at all, and if so what did they indicate?

[Kim David 2]

THANK YOU for your story.

Thank you for backing me up with truth.

I believe you. Why would you want to lie & why would I want to lie.

Yep, a clear case of "Bullying" but I'm a strong, independent woman from the south who will stand up for a cause & fight to the end when I am armed with THE TRUTH. Thank God for the strength he has given to me.

I am getting confused with reply's.

I lost some comments & think I commented twice on others because there are so many comments.

[canadianprairiegal 31]

Sharon...Thank You.

For every mean spirited person here, I've found 5 good hearted people.

1 out of 5 is not bad.

u r doing it again by trying to stir up stuff, people were asking you for more info you got defensive, everyone has their opinion, we are not mean spirited, if anyone is it is you, by your snide comments, as for bullies my gawd woman, look in the mirror, you have been the one telling people to get off this thread, etc, like i said in an earlier post take a deep breath and re write your story, not with a little bit here and there and leave it up to someone to put the pieces together, from post to post. I have been on here for awhile now, and everyone has been so good with there advice, support, friendship, i think you missed the boat on what this forum is all about, if you get defensive and start being nasty then soon others will also. You seem to be the type of person that you can have a say but gawd help anyone else that may have an opinion, or if someone disagrees with you then the wrath of Kim comes out. i am sorry to hear about your problem, but like i said earlier, if this would of happened to me or if it does i would of went to another dr immediately, to make sure all was well, and to carry on with my journey of losing, but you did not mention that, also you did not mention how long ago this was, all you have said since is the way our medical system is going, if you work for health insurance, how many people u have helped, then you should know what would happen what avenues you need to go down, this is where it gets foggy with your story. i wish you all the luck, but i am not going thru another day of reading anymore of these posts, it is just to wonky, again i will say ty for calling me a sweetie, since i am one

[Kim David 2]

You're welconed to be here, please don't think I meant otherwise. I'm just saying that it's rarely productive to "argue" online, or whatever the more appropriate synonym is. If people don't believe you, they don't believe you, and it's rarely worthwhile to put forth effort to change their mind or "defend" onesself. Don't let it bother you. Just my 2 cents, worth exaclty what you paid.

Now, for your problems...

Have you heard of the term "stricture" or "stenosis"? It is a complication arising from (long story short) scar tissue. It's a narrowing of a body passage. In the case of WLS, it usually occurs between the intestine and reduced stomach (or a new intestine-to-intestine connection). The primary symptom is pretty much what you're describing - vomiting, due to the inability of much to pass through the sometimes tiny opening. I think stricture rates for VSG patients are around 6% - 8%. Definiely not unheard of. And with little to no aftercare, it's enrirely possible you could have one that is undiagnosed. You might want to visit even your standard family practitioner and see what they have to say, if you don't have access to a trusted bariatric surgeon with sleeve experience.

I assume by "spit" you mean "vomit"? Or do you just prudce excess saliva and have to spit it out? (I'm not nit-picing, but there's a difference and it's significant)

As for getting nothing down but not losing weight, you haven't starved so you can get something down. Have you noticed any patterns in what you can/cannot eat or drink? Do you bring liquids back up, or just solids? Any particular types of solids? Does it seem related to time of day, or environment, or anything like that? About how many calories a day do you think you're eating? What's your Protein intake? What's your supplement regimen? Have you had any labs done recently, or post-op at all, and if so what did they indicate?

Wow... Thanks for this information. No, I've never heard of that. Someone said I could have a blockage but I did not understand it.

When I say spit, It's more than spit then less than projectile vomit.

I often use a coffee mug when I am in public.

It may look like I am sipping coffee but actually I am spitting up.

Usually 1/4 of the cup at a time. May spit 1 or 2 times.

Most of the time it is food.< /p>

Sometimes it is liquids.

BEFORE THE SURGERY:

I was addicted to Diet Coke & I smoked a pack of CIGARETTES a day.

I smoked for 35 years.

AFTER THE SURGERY:

I never drank a Diet Coke or Smoked a Cigarette since.

All I drink is Crystal Light Ice Tea w/lemon & don't leave home without.

My bowels are messed up too. (without going into detail)

Not every day but I get Major cramping, chills & sometimes gaging fm a foul

taste in my mouth. (I hate to put this in writing but I need the help so I have to be brutally honest)

I had a complete physical, blood work, pap, mammogram.

I do not take any Rx. No Diabetes, Blood Pressure Normal, etc.

I don't exercise because I don't have energy.

I am depressed. Tried every antidepressant but they made me sleep more.

I sleep al ot.

[Kim David 2]

u r doing it again by trying to stir up stuff, people were asking you for more info you got defensive, everyone has their opinion, we are not mean spirited, if anyone is it is you, by your snide comments, as for bullies my gawd woman, look in the mirror, you have been the one telling people to get off this thread, etc, like i said in an earlier post take a deep breath and re write your story, not with a little bit here and there and leave it up to someone to put the pieces together, from post to post. I have been on here for awhile now, and everyone has been so good with there advice, support, friendship, i think you missed the boat on what this forum is all about, if you get defensive and start being nasty then soon others will also. You seem to be the type of person that you can have a say but gawd help anyone else that may have an opinion, or if someone disagrees with you then the wrath of Kim comes out. i am sorry to hear about your problem, but like i said earlier, if this would of happened to me or if it does i would of went to another dr immediately, to make sure all was well, and to carry on with my journey of losing, but you did not mention that, also you did not mention how long ago this was, all you have said since is the way our medical system is going, if you work for health insurance, how many people u have helped, then you should know what would happen what avenues you need to go down, this is where it gets foggy with your story. i wish you all the luck, but i am not going thru another day of reading anymore of these posts, it is just to wonky, again i will say ty for calling me a sweetie, since i am one

If you don't like my comments... turn the page.

I am the one that has been attacked, called names like a Troll,

a liar, someone needing attention, bragging, etc.

Don't tell me what I can or cannot do because I will do what I want.

I will say what I want as long as it is the truth.

Yes, they were bullying me. They ganged up on me but I took them all on.

Know why? Because I am telling the truth.

If you don't like me, like move on.

See ya!

[Wheetsin 714]

Here is some information on some risks & complications. I don't remember if you mentioned having insurance. Depending on what type you have, if any, definitely call either a PCP or a specialist and make an appointment. Something is going on and unfortunately a lot of the problems that he bariatric community is subject to aren't ones that go away on their own.

Stenosis

As the connection between your new small stomach and the small intestine heals, it forms scar tissue, which naturally tends to shrink over time, making the opening smaller. This is called a stricture or a stenosis. Usually, the passage of food through an anastamosis will keep it stretched open, but if the inflammation and healing process outpaces the stretching process, scarring may make the opening so small that even liquids can no longer pass through it. The solution is a procedure called gastroendoscopy, and stretching of the connection by inflating a balloon inside it. Sometimes this manipulation may have to be performed more than once to achieve lasting correction. Even more rarely stents or repeat operations are required.

Bleeding

Many blood vessels must be cut, to divide the stomach and to move the bowel. Any of these may later begin bleeding, either into the abdomen (intra-abdominal hemorrhage), or into the bowel itself (gastrointestinal hemorrhage). Transfusions may be needed, and re-operation is sometimes necessary. Use of blood thinners, to prevent venous thromboembolic disease, may actually increase the risk of hemorrhage slightly.

Infection

Infection can occur after surgery. Effective short-term use of antibiotics, diligent respiratory therapy, and encouragement of activity within a few hours after surgery, can reduce the risks of infections.

Bowel obstruction

Abdominal surgery always results in some scarring of the bowel, called adhesions. No matter what surgery you have on the bowel there is a one to two percent lifetime risk of adhesions forming and blocking the bowel. When a patient's bowels become blocked, the patient generally has severe abdominal pain and eventually vomiting. Vomiting is always abnormal after surgery. The treatment for bowel obstruction is surgery.

Venous thromboembolism

Any injury, such as a surgical operation, causes the body to increase the coagulation of the blood. There is an increased probability of formation of clots in the veins of the legs, or sometimes the pelvis, in the morbidly obese patient. A clot which breaks free and floats to the lungs is called a pulmonary embolism, a very dangerous occurrence. Commonly, blood thinners are administered before surgery, to reduce the probability of this type of complication. The best way to prevent this life threatening complication is to walk after surgery.

Anastamotic leakage

An anastamosis is a surgical connection between the stomach and bowel, or between two parts of the bowel. The surgeon attempts to create a water-tight connection by connecting the two organs with either staples or sutures, either of which actually makes a hole in the bowel wall. The surgeon will rely on the healing power of the body, and its ability to create a seal like a self-sealing tire. If that seal fails to form, Fluid from within the gastrointestinal tract can leak into the sterile abdominal cavity and give rise to infection and abscess formation. Leakage of an anastamosis has been reported in up to two percent of gastric bypass procedures, usually at the stomach-bowel connection. Sometimes leakage can be treated with antibiotics, and sometimes it will require immediate re-operation.

It sounds like your surgeon & program were utterly neglectful. Were you given aftercare instructions? There are certain conditions under which you need to seek medical help ASAP. These include, but are not limited to:

• Inability to pass fluids (drink)
  
• Inability to pass solids (maybe for longer than a day or two, we all go through incidients of something not wantint to go down, and a day w/o food won't hurt you where a day w/o Water can)
  
• if you haven't pooped in 3+ days
  
• if you show signs of dehydration (dark urine, Constipation, chills, "head rush," etc.)
  
• Sustained fever
  
• etc
  

Sounds like you're having more than one of those. Make an appointment like, yesterday, even if you have to go to another city or go out of state.