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"god" wants me, needs me, shows me....

Why is it that some people blame "god" for everything?

If something goes wrong, "god" was testing them. If something goes right "god" was guiding them.

I'm honestly sickened by this! No really I just threw up a little.

Wheres the cut off? When is someone required to take responsibility for their own actions?

If you believe in "god" and have had WLS youre a "sinner" and will deal with the consequences.

If you are a believer and haven't had it yet...think of this...

"god" made you in his own image so ya...accept who you are and how you look, or face his wrath when he finds out you didnt think he, or his vision was good enough for you.

Guess what! you arent good enough for him either! And you wouldnt be here if you were good enough for anyone else so STFU!

Oh ya, and your story doesnt matter, all you "I found god" people are simply expressing guilt for what you've become and hoping someone will say "its ok". Well guess what...its NOT and no, you arent forgiven you POS!

PS-none of this is exactly my opinion [or is it?], it was an exercise for a class, and it honestly made me really curious. Everything that is said in the OP are quotes from my classmates postings.

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    I don't think it's a matter of "blaming" god for everything. As a believer, I believe that God, as creator of everything, has a plan for my life. Yes, I have free will and can choose to do my own wi

  • We talk about Santa Claus, vampires and honest politicians too. What does that mean?

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Ask anyone whose young child was dying of cancer if their prayers were answered. Heard about any terminal cancer patients on their deathbed making any miraculous recoveries? No. And we're to believe this is all part of some plan?
Its not like praying affects the outcome anyway. Bad things still happen to people that pray. What I don't get is that these people then rationalise this by saying that it was part of God's plan and they worship him even more!

You fail to understand the 'bigger' picture. When death comes, God rejoices. "blessed in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints." To God, there is more to our lives than just this life on earth. Our souls are eternal. In Heaven there is no time. This is our temporary home.

The bible says that "the prayers of the righteous are powerful and effective." Who are the 'righteous'? Those who believe in Jesus. HE has made them righteous in the sight of God. Many people turn to God in prayer when they have urgent needs (a dying child, a sick family member, etc.) yet, ignore God and have no relationship with Him at other times. It says that the prayers of the 'righteous' are powerful and effective. This tells me that God hears those who are believers in Him. Does He hear the unbeliever's prayers? I believe he hears their prayers for salvation. He hears them when they repent of their sins. For this is what is required to bring them into right relationship with him. Once they are made "righteous", then their prayers can be powerful and effective, too.

There are many testimonies of believers praying for cancer that was healed, and believers praying for God's mercy and it was given. Numerous examples all over the world. And, yes, sometimes God answers our prayers with a "no." And we trust that He alone knows what's best in every circumstance.

I don't know why so many believe in a God.

there are many possibilities:-

1. Community/culture/peer pressure.

2. It gives them some comfort.

3. It is a way of trying to explain things that we cannot explain.

4. Indoctrination/brainwashing.

5. Because people want to believe that there is a greater plan.

6. Because people cannot accept that we have one life and this is it.

7. because believing in some kind of supreme being takes away some responsibility.

I am sure there are lots of other reasons.

Patty, that is the sad part so many people believe in our Father but don't live their lives that refects a relationship with him. It's the darkness in the world that tries to distort the truth but there is only one truth, One Lord-Jesus, one faith-God's faith, & one baptism -and that is into the Lord.

I agree wholeheartedly. It is true that sooo many believe in God, and yet so few of them actually nurture their relationship with him. They are busy, or they are caught up with life and all that is happening around them. So, they don't talk to God and read his word. They are missing out on something wonderful. I'm so glad that you're not missing out!:sad: God bless you.

I don't know why so many believe in a God.

there are many possibilities:-

1. Community/culture/peer pressure.

2. It gives them some comfort.

3. It is a way of trying to explain things that we cannot explain.

4. Indoctrination/brainwashing.

5. Because people want to believe that there is a greater plan.

6. Because people cannot accept that we have one life and this is it.

7. because believing in some kind of supreme being takes away some responsibility.

I am sure there are lots of other reasons.

8. Need an excuse to get dressed up on Sunday mornings.

9. Justify their hate of other people and cultures.

10. Because everyone else is doing it.

I also find it interesting that people mock Scientology because their beliefs:-

-are based on a book written by a man

- they believe in some Supreme being called Zog( apologies if I have that wrong)

- believe that we were left here by aliens a long time ago etc etc

Why is this so unbelievable? In many ways it is very similar to christianity which is also

- based on a book written by men

- has a Supreme being called God

- believes that we were created in one day and that we all come from Adam and Eve.

To me they are both as believable/unbelievable as each other.

I'm just going to put my trust in Dr Who because I am sure when the end of the world comes he will save me!

I don't know why so many believe in a God.

there are many possibilities:-

1. Community/culture/peer pressure.

2. It gives them some comfort.

3. It is a way of trying to explain things that we cannot explain.

4. Indoctrination/brainwashing.

5. Because people want to believe that there is a greater plan.

6. Because people cannot accept that we have one life and this is it.

7. because believing in some kind of supreme being takes away some responsibility.

I am sure there are lots of other reasons.

Or, maybe they believe because:

1. They have experienced His presence among them.

2. They understand that for every painting there is an artist.

3. He has entered into them through His Holy Spirit and communes with them.

4. God has made Himself known to them in some way.

5. They have tasted his goodness.

6. They sought after Him and found Him.

7. When they read His words from the scripture,they asked Jesus to be their Savior as it instructs them to do, and they were 'born again' spiritually. And once that happens, there is NO denying that God is real.

Your #7 is actually the opposite of what you say. Knowing God makes you responsible to Him, it doesn't take away your responsibilities. Many people don't want to accept the fact that God is real, because if they did, then they would have to be responsible to Him. And they don't want to be.

God is a gentleman. He will not force his way upon anyone of his creation. He desires that all should come to know Him. But, it is each individuals choice to have Him in their life or not.

How is it that sooooo many of us are duped and you're not??:sad:

That can be answered by the number of people who are duped by the tea party and who actually believe that movement is about spending and deficits. :(

Ask anyone whose young child was dying of cancer if their prayers were answered. Heard about any terminal cancer patients on their deathbed making any miraculous recoveries? No. And we're to believe this is all part of some plan?
Its not like praying affects the outcome anyway. Bad things still happen to people that pray. What I don't get is that these people then rationalise this by saying that it was part of God's plan and they worship him even more!

You fail to understand the 'bigger' picture. When death comes, God rejoices. "blessed in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints." To God, there is more to our lives than just this life on earth. Our souls are eternal. In Heaven there is no time. This is our temporary home.If death is such a joy, then why even bother with "creating" us? I'm sure the wife and mother who lost her husband and two of her triplets in that freak accident didn't rejoice.

The bible says that "the prayers of the righteous are powerful and effective." Who are the 'righteous'? Those who believe in Jesus. HE has made them righteous in the sight of God. Many people turn to God in prayer when they have urgent needs (a dying child, a sick family member, etc.) yet, ignore God and have no relationship with Him at other times. It says that the prayers of the 'righteous' are powerful and effective.This is insulting. As if to say, well if your dying loved one doesn't recover, it's because you don't have the right relationship with Jesus and your prayers won't be answered. This tells me that God hears those who are believers in Him. Does He hear the unbeliever's prayers? I believe he hears their prayers for salvation. He hears them when they repent of their sins. For this is what is required to bring them into right relationship with him. Once they are made "righteous", then their prayers can be powerful and effective, too.

There are many testimonies of believers praying for cancer that was healed, and believers praying for God's mercy and it was given. Numerous examples all over the world. And, yes, sometimes God answers our prayers with a "no." And we trust that He alone knows what's best in every circumstance.

Doctors have said that there are maybe a handful of cases where someone whose terminal cancer has disappeared. This among the millions who die of cancer every year. Not enough to substantiate some miracle by those who had the right relationship to God and whose prayers were answered.

The presidency of Obama is God's plan. He wants us to see how harmful the rich and greedy republicans have been to his children. Obama is God's message to them and to the hateful and the hypocrits. His policies are part of God's plan to make our country a more loving and fruitful place. God has called out the evil speakers to tell the truth like right wing talk show hosts and religious leaders who preach hate. God doesn't make mistakes so this was meant to be. Why not be on God's side and help Obama carry out his plan instead of rejecting Obama and God out of selfishness?

Obama was not the choice of Christians. But he was the choice of the people. God did not come to vote. He gave free will to people and they went down to the polls and voted. And now look what we are stuck with.

Obama was not the choice of Christians. But he was the choice of the people. God did not come to vote. He gave free will to people and they went down to the polls and voted. And now look what we are stuck with.

By christians, do you mean the conservative christian right? Because if you mean christians in general, then you are wrong because most of those who voted for President Obama were christian. Don't highjack the term christian to only mean the conservative born-agains. That is unfair to the rest of us.

And what we are stuck with is a great president who is digging us out of the hole that bush and 8 years of his failed policies got us into.

If death is such a joy, then why even bother with "creating" us? I'm sure the wife and mother who lost her husband and two of her triplets in that freak accident didn't rejoice.

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Death IS a joy... to God and to those who love Him.

The problem is that people do not understand the spiritual life of human beings. Those who have not been born again, I mean, don't understand. The world we live in is a battlefield spiritually, and God must let the battle ensue so that good can conquer evil in the end. The mother who lost her children in an accident that you speak about, are only thinking about the present, and what a loss it is, and her griief. I can understand that. I just lost my own mother recently. I certainly understand grief. But, even though these things happen in life and are very much so a part of life, it doesn't mean that God is not real and/or doesn't care about us because he allows them to happen. It just means that sometimes Satan wins a battle now and then temporarily. All the more reason for Christians to step up their prayers. But, have no fear, he may win a battle sometimes, but the war itself is won by God. In the end, He has the victory!

The bible says that "the prayers of the righteous are powerful and effective." Who are the 'righteous'? Those who believe in Jesus. HE has made them righteous in the sight of God. Many people turn to God in prayer when they have urgent needs (a dying child, a sick family member, etc.) yet, ignore God and have no relationship with Him at other times. It says that the prayers of the 'righteous' are powerful and effective.This is insulting. As if to say, well if your dying loved one doesn't recover, it's because you don't have the right relationship with Jesus and your prayers won't be answered. [END]

Why is that insulting? It doesn't say that the prayers of every living human being are powerful and effective. It says the prayers of the 'righteous'. In the bible, the 'righteous' are those who have asked to be God's children. Doesn't God have the right to be a parent to His children? If your son asked something of you, wouldn't you give it to him if it wouldn't harm him or if it would benefit him? Of course. We all want to give good gifts to our children. This is why God will give His children anything that they ask for in the name of His son, Jesus, if it is in accordance with His will.

We are told in John 9:31, "Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is a worshiper of God and does His will, He hears him." There are people whose prayer God will not hear. Isaiah 59:2 says, "But your iniquities have separated you from your God; and your sins have hidden His face from you, so that He will not hear."

This tells us that God does not hear or answer the prayers of those who do not trust in Jesus to make them 'righteous' before the Father. He might hear the prayer of the unbeliever, but he will act on the prayers from His children. Of course, God can answer anyones prayer, even an unbeliever's prayer, if He chooses to, but He promises to answer His children's prayers. Jesus gave us authority in His name to be able to defeat the devil and his schemes. He gave us power in His name to heal the sick and to move mountains, (overcome BIG problems). Faith is all that's needed.

If your dying loved one does not recover after you pray for him, it's because God wanted to bring him home. He brought him into the world, and he has every right to take him out of it. If He was going to take his life, and you prayed,and were not one of His children, he may not hear you due to the fact that he doesn't hear unrepentant sinner's prayers. But, if you prayed for your loved one, and you were a believer in Jesus, He may change His mind and heal him and allow him to recover because you asked him to.

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