Welcome to the "Slow Loser" thread on LBT.

A few orders of business to begin.

First, we need to elect a leader. Someone who will voice our opinion clearly and with wisdom and humor. Our Leader will support us in our efforts and remind us of our NSV's and to not be discouraged.

I nominate - Vinesqueen. I can think of no on here on the board more eloquent and positive in her day to day outlook. (she has no idea about this, by the way - this is my own little invention - but I still think she should be our leader)

Second - we need to define "slow loser". I would propose that a slow loser is someone who is losing (or lost) less than 1 pound per week (average) during the first year of banding.

Third - Our Mission. Our Mission will be to stick together as a group. There is always strength in numbers. As we see newly banded people losing more in a month or six weeks than we have lost in 6 months to a year, we will join together and remind each other of how well we're doing. We'll chant the LBTSL ( that LapBand Talk Slow Loser) mantra of "It's not a race, it's not a race" over and over again.

Will you join me? Will you, a slow loser, a turtle in the weight loss race, make your voice heard amongst all these rabbits? Mostly will you let me know that I am not alone out here in bandland?

Looking forward to hearing from all of you.

thank you for inviting me.

Hello everyone my name is Deborah and yes I am a slow loser. I was banded on 10/24/2007 and I have lost 15 lbs. My problem is I keep playing with 5 lbs. of it, i gain it, i loose it. I have had two fills but I really dont think I have much restriction. I know I need another fill hopefully soon after the beginning of the year. I really thought I failed at this to but its nice to know there are other slow losers out there. I have a saying we will weather this storm together and right now it feels like a Hurrican. I do have a question I have a AP 10cc band with 4cc fill, how much of a fill do you have to have to feel some real restriction with a 10cc band? I know it depends on the individual but I was just wondering how many more fills I will have to get to have a real restriction with 10cc band?

I have 10cc in a 10cc band. Always up to the individual.

I am not sure of band sizes and fills either. I know mine holds 4ccs and I have almost 3 in there now, and I have good restriction finally.

I wish chocolate would get stuck and make me puke. That's my biggest downfall.

denise..i've seen you mention your problem with chocolate often. you seem to really not want to like it. (i have a choco problem too, but i'm not ready to not like it). have you tried any type of aversion therapy that you do yourself? for instance, if there is a food that you hate, make yourself eat it first or right after having a piece of choco. it takes determination though and really sticking yourself to it, but eventually your brain will correlate the choco with the bad taste...or there are other ways to do it..that is just one.

you know..kind of like when you drink something until you throw up horribly and then the smell of it makes you sick..same thing (although i know many people that it doesn't stop them..).

aversion therapy? I have never heard of this before. Have you tried it and does it really work? I do not know any taste I hate that bad.

Yesterday I finally lost 2 lbs . I worked out at the gym really hard.

Then a fiend of mine invited me over and it turned out she made chocolate fondue. Of course, I couldn't resist.

I am going to plan evenings out from now on until I reach my goa, that don't involve food of any kind. I will ask ahead of time if there will be food there.

I use lap band talk when I am craving something. I can come here and spend hours reading posts and not think about eating, just how I want to be determined to get the rest of this off. I think after the first of the year, I am going to go to the gym twice

a day, for about 3 days out of the week.

aversion therapy would be effective i think in a percentage of cases (although i have never done a study..i would like to). it is backed by the principal of negative reinforcement (google it..you'll find lots of information). i do not know of any particular study or if aversion therapy is even a word. it is something i have thought of (although i'm sure it is not an original thought). if you force yourself to do something that you do not like with a behavior that you do not like, and you do it consistently, you will begin to associate the negative with that behavior.

if you think about it, the band has basically the same philosophy. once we are to restriction, if we eat too much, we will hurt, and therefore, we will not want to eat it again. humans are trainable just like animals, we just have the ability to train ourselves. actually, with the band, a lot of people with have an aversion to a particular food due to one incidence. however, even according to my doctor, it is important to try again one day because your band changes.

people learn amazingly fast, and we do not want to do anything that causes us pain or discomfort. so eat chocolate and then eat lima beans (i gag when i eat lima beans).

i'm going to try this actually starting next week..we will see what happens. i will either stop liking chocolate, or i will start liking lima beans, either way it is a positive outcome.

many many people, can recollect a time when they had an aversion to food..for example, even though the taste of cottage cheese is not bad, i absolutely cannot eat it because once when i was a child, i ate a whole container of it (first time i ate it), and my belly hurt for a week. i was 5 and i have not eaten cottage cheese since (unless it is cooked like in lasagna). it is the same concept.

I have done aversion therapy with pizza. I had a piece of pizza a

few months ago. I threw up for 2 solid hours. Makes me never ever want to try pizza again.

:cry did you make yourself thow up for 2 hours?

No, I did not make myself throw up. The pizza got stuck and I couldn't get it all up. It stayed stuck and kept throwing up a little bit at a time until it all finally got cleared and it finally stopped. I was in pain and I was miserable.

Happy Holidays To All And To All A Good Night!:rose:

I'm new on here and i'm not sure i know what i'm doing.

anyone there?

Hi Kim:

Like all things in life, there is always cause and effect. If you are not getting the results you seek first make sure they are reasonable and then secondly, make sure you are following the rules. I have worked with over a hundred Lap-Band patients and see both the "successes" and the "failures." Every single time someone is losing weight very slowly or not at all; one of the pieces of their weight loss puzzle is either missing or out of balance.

My suggestion would be to spend time looking for answers and solutions and not banding together with like minded people. Remember the success rule... find successful people and emulate them in any personal or professional venture you undertake.

More to come...