WHY are people voting for McCain?

[luluc 6]

One who has, should give. They shouldn't be forced to or required to give. What you did isn't socialism in any sense of the word; it's charity. If people choose not to give, it's not up to us to require them to do it. In both cases, a transaction takes place; in one, you give. In the other, it is taken from you.

What you did is right and commendable, but how would you feel if someone withdrew that money and those resources from you just because they felt you had adequate means to give (whether you felt you did or not is inconsequential -- what matters is their arbitrary definition of your wealth)?

ya know - i struggle with the charity vs patriotism, because too much is muddled...what do you say when daddy bush asks for those to help? who would do it,, cause it certainly can't be forced.??

let "them" take care of themselves.... thats rich, we send money overseas; & have families here struggling.....sorry, democrat on steroids and am grateful my mom taught her children to give .... jump in your bomb shelters....

[plain 12]

more like 37%.

So how much higher would the government have to hike your percentage before y'all were like "woah...that's not fair"?

[luluc 6]

So how much higher would the government have to hike your percentage before y'all were like "woah...that's not fair"?

honestly - don't know , don't feel the pinch many others do, thankfully. so your probably asking the wrong person that question.

[plain 12]

honestly - don't know , don't feel the pinch many others do, thankfully. so your probably asking the wrong person that question.

Ok, then....in theory, how much can the government tax the wealthiest 1% of Americans before it's not fair to them?

I'm not picking on you, Lulu....you're just one of the few that can debate the actual question without calling Bush "the devil", or how Palin is a nazi, Obama is a muslim, etc. Hey, I think I'll make that a new thread question.

[gadgetlady 4]

luluc, can you provide clarification on your statement that "DH and i are maxed as far as what uncle sam can take from us in taxes. we pay qtrly, and it's an obscene amt." Did you mean you can't afford for Uncle Sam to take more from you, or did you mean you're at the top end of the tax bracket? I was reading it as the former, but based on your subsequent posts, I'm thinking it was the latter?

[luluc 6]

Ok, then....in theory, how much can the government tax the wealthiest 1% of Americans before it's not fair to them?

I'm not picking on you, Lulu....you're just one of the few that can debate the actual question without calling Bush "the devil", or how Palin is a nazi, Obama is a muslim, etc. Hey, I think I'll make that a new thread question.

plain - i say w/all honesty i have no answer to what is fair and what is not.

to call baby bush the devil is really easy, least here in NTX - it's actually a sport. palin, well - DH and i are convinced she will do just fine after the election ... who knows; she may take bill o'reillys spot...(crossing fingers)

[luluc 6]

luluc, can you provide clarification on your statement that "DH and i are maxed as far as what uncle sam can take from us in taxes. we pay qtrly, and it's an obscene amt." Did you mean you can't afford for Uncle Sam to take more from you, or did you mean you're at the top end of the tax bracket? I was reading it as the former, but based on your subsequent posts, I'm thinking it was the latter?

the latter -

[luluc 6]

luluc, can you provide clarification on your statement that "DH and i are maxed as far as what uncle sam can take from us in taxes. we pay qtrly, and it's an obscene amt." Did you mean you can't afford for Uncle Sam to take more from you, or did you mean you're at the top end of the tax bracket? I was reading it as the former, but based on your subsequent posts, I'm thinking it was the latter?

the latter -

[Gracey 7]

palin, well - DH and i are convinced she will do just fine after the election ... who knows; she may take bill o'reillys spot...(crossing fingers)

:thumbs_up::rolleyes2::blushing: That was awesome! Doesn't she need a brain to be on TV?!? Oh, of course not...Hasselbeck doesn't have one! :sad_smile:

[clusk 0]

If she is elected VP she thinks she is going to be the leader of the Senate. She thinks she well help with legislation.

Please, she is an embarassment!

[clusk 0]

If she is elected VP she thinks she is going to be the leader of the Senate. She thinks she well help with legislation.

Please, she is an embarassment!

[plain 12]

If she is elected VP she thinks she is going to be the leader of the Senate. She thinks she well help with legislation.

Please, she is an embarassment!

Really? Elizabeth Hasselbeck thinks that? Those ladies on the view are outta control! First it was Rosie O'D claiming that fundamental Christianity and Judaism were as dangerous as Muslim fundamentalists (as well as saying that the US government was behind the terrorism on 9/11). It's sad that Hasselbeck can't be as intelligent as Rosie.

[Lowbmier 0]

Really? Elizabeth Hasselbeck thinks that? Those ladies on the view are outta control! First it was Rosie O'D claiming that fundamental Christianity and Judaism were as dangerous as Muslim fundamentalists (as well as saying that the US government was behind the terrorism on 9/11). It's sad that Hasselbeck can't be as intelligent as Rosie.

What are you talking about? The person that said Hasselbeck needs to replace Bill O'Rielly hit the nail on the head. Hasellbeck is just as out of touch as McCain and Palin. Oh but Palin is so much more out of touch than everyone put together. She is such a slap in the face of our political system. Not because she is a women, but for so many reasons that I just can't put into this post. What was McCain thinking? Does he really think this country is that stupid? OMG! Oh and I think using religion to promote violence is wrong no matter what religion it is just to adress your post "plain."

Edited October 23, 2008 by Lowbmier

[gadgetlady 4]

Really? Elizabeth Hasselbeck thinks that? Those ladies on the view are outta control! First it was Rosie O'D claiming that fundamental Christianity and Judaism were as dangerous as Muslim fundamentalists (as well as saying that the US government was behind the terrorism on 9/11). It's sad that Hasselbeck can't be as intelligent as Rosie.

Plain, you just plain make me laugh. Have you seen "An American Carol"? The Rosie caricature in that is hilarious.

[Lowbmier 0]

Plain, you just plain make me laugh. Have you seen "An American Carol"? The Rosie caricature in that is hilarious.

I'm glad you can find humor in all of this gidget I mean gadget.