Bad bander, but curious question!! ha ha

[Froggi 4]

Sorry but you cant say its "ok" to cheat w/ liquids but not solids . cheating is cheating . If you call and ask your doc if its ok to move the diet and he says ok then that's one thing.

for instance my doc told me IF I NEEDED TO because of my Migraines I COULD start the first week w/ Full liquids instaed of clears. But i tried it w/ clears and I was fine so i did not adjust anything.

But you cant say "I think to some degree you can "cheat""

NOT FOLLOWING DOCTORS ORDERS IS NOT FOLLOWING Doctors orders. You said yourself your doc is a center of excellence . Do you think it got that way by accident ? Seriously ? Or do you think it got that way becaue the System they have in place WORKS ? Not by cheating on liquids a few days early . Thicker Liquids churn your stomach more than Clear Liquids thats why docs do not want you drinking FULL Liquids straight out of surgery !!

Sorry but that's just my opinion . You either follow orders or you dont . its not a half ass thing in my opinion .

Mindy

:drool::thumbup::cry_smile: I couldn't agree more.:thumbup::ohmy:

[Susie Girl 75 0]

I think it's so wonderful that we have not one, but two MD's on this thread... (You two know who you are) You're both skilled surgeons, so we are SO lucky and blessed to have them grace us with their words of wisdom!!! With all of their combined surgical experience under their belts, how can you not listen to them???

Ebeth, and everyone else: If you have true medical questions and you are concerned for your band, then you should be contacting your doctor as well. Posting on this site is great and can be helpful, but nobody on this post is an MD... please keep that in mind...

[coltonwade 27]

I think it's so wonderful that we have not one, but two MD's on this thread... (You two know who you are) You're both skilled surgeons, so we are SO lucky and blessed to have them grace us with their words of wisdom!!! With all of their combined surgical experience under their belts, how can you not listen to them???

Ebeth, and everyone else: If you have true medical questions and you are concerned for your band, then you should be contacting your doctor as well. Posting on this site is great and can be helpful, but nobody on this post is an MD... please keep that in mind...

well ACTUALLY there are a FEW MD's on this board !! :cry_smile:

And i dont think there is any reason to become a Smarty Pants .

We are trying to help.

[Froggi 4]

And i dont think there is any reason to become a Smarty Pants .

We are trying to help.

Yes, that's what this board is here for. To share experiences and wisdom.

[coltonwade 27]

Also it does not have anything to do w/ having an MD or not . it has to do w/ those who have more experience .

I am not sure why that is so wrong ? why is it not ok or wrong for some of us who are further down the rd to give advice, our experience to those who are just starting out on this road ?

Im sorry but i would and did WANT that from people.

I dont want someone to tell me what i want to hear I want them to tell me what I NEED to hear , i dont want them to tell me what i want to hear if im doing something that could possibly harm me ? HOW THE HELL DOES THAT DO ANYONE ANY GOOD ? I do not get why that is being HOSTILE , ugly , rude, anything but HELPFUL . If we all sat back , folder our arms and said NOTHING OMG do you know what would happen ? we would get " WHY DIDNT YA"LL TELL US ? Why would you not TELL SOmeoen not to do that ?

Seriously ? dont come here asking , looking seeking advice and get pissed cause you dont like what you hear !!!!

[Froggi 4]

Also it does not have anything to do w/ having an MD or not . it has to do w/ those who have more experience .

I am not sure why that is so wrong ? why is it not ok or wrong for some of us who are further down the rd to give advice, our experience to those who are just starting out on this road ?

Im sorry but i would and did WANT that from people.

I dont want someone to tell me what i want to hear I want them to tell me what I NEED to hear , i dont want them to tell me what i want to hear if im doing something that could possibly harm me ? HOW THE HELL DOES THAT DO ANYONE ANY GOOD ? I do not get why that is being HOSTILE , ugly , rude, anything but HELPFUL . If we all sat back , folder our arms and said NOTHING OMG do you know what would happen ? we would get " WHY DIDNT YA"LL TELL US ? Why would you not TELL SOmeoen not to do that ?

Seriously ? dont come here asking , looking seeking advice and get pissed cause you dont like what you hear !!!!

Awesome words of wisdom.:cry_smile:

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

I think it's so wonderful that we have not one, but two MD's on this thread... (You two know who you are) You're both skilled surgeons, so we are SO lucky and blessed to have them grace us with their words of wisdom!!! With all of their combined surgical experience under their belts, how can you not listen to them???

Ebeth, and everyone else: If you have true medical questions and you are concerned for your band, then you should be contacting your doctor as well. Posting on this site is great and can be helpful, but nobody on this post is an MD... please keep that in mind...

Are you aware that we are suggesting people (gasp) follow their MDs advice?

The horror of it all!

Amazingly, it does not take medical school to grasp a bit of common sense. Following your MDs advice is not the evil you make it out to be.

Honest.

[snowbird 2]

The basic thing I don't understand is that people are willing to risk the pain and cost of unsuccessful surgery for the little bit of gratification eating too soon will bring you. Do you think that anyone who suffers a slip and has to be rebanded or just lose the band would think it was all worth it, because they got a hamburger a week early?

So maybe you didn't follow your doctor's advice and you were fine. First of all, how long have you been banded? If it's only a couple months, you don't know you are fine yet. And if you have been banded over a year and haven't slipped, well, lucky you. I've said this before: I've done some stupid things in my life that maybe should have killed me, but didn't. That doesn't mean I would suggest to anyone else that they do what I did. Why would you want to encourage dangerous behavior in others?

Edited August 6, 2008 by snowbird

[healthysue 0]

Ok Elizabeth I just wanted to say look how much you have lost already. It is very hard, I know I am 6 days post op and sick of the liquids. Keep visiting this site, it really does help. We are all in the same boat, we have all gone to this extreme because if we could have done it by ourselves we would have. This is a wonderful tool that we have. Hang in there down 32lbs :w00t: thats great I bet you are feeling better when you put that pair of pants on. Stay Strong

Sue

[coltonwade 27]

The basic thing I don't understand is that people are willing to risk the pain and cost of unsuccessful surgery for the little bit of gratification eating too soon will bring you. Do you think that anyone who suffers a slip and has to be rebanded or just lose the band would think it was all worth it, because they got a hamburger a week early?

So maybe you didn't follow your doctor's advice and you were fine. First of all, how long have you been banded? If it's only a couple months, you don't know you are fine yet. And if you have been banded over a year and haven't slipped, well, lucky you. I've said this before: I've done some stupid things in my life that maybe should have killed me, but didn't. That doesn't mean I would suggest to anyone else that they do what I did. Why would you want to encourage dangerous behavior in others?

:eek::hurray::hurray::thumbup::hurray::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::party:

ok i ran out of smiles that said I totally agree !! LMAO

:w00t:

[coltonwade 27]

Are you aware that we are suggesting people (gasp) follow their MDs advice?

The horror of it all!

Amazingly, it does not take medical school to grasp a bit of common sense. Following your MDs advice is not the evil you make it out to be.

Honest.

THE THOUGHT !!!

:w00t:

[2KpUpwithAvery 0]

Sounds as if no amount of advice will be the right amount of advice :-)

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[coltonwade 27]

I think you hit the nail on the head !! that may be the issue for some people!

Mindy

[WASaBubbleButt 41]

The basic thing I don't understand is that people are willing to risk the pain and cost of unsuccessful surgery for the little bit of gratification eating too soon will bring you. Do you think that anyone who suffers a slip and has to be rebanded or just lose the band would think it was all worth it, because they got a hamburger a week early?

So maybe you didn't follow your doctor's advice and you were fine. First of all, how long have you been banded? If it's only a couple months, you don't know you are fine yet. And if you have been banded over a year and haven't slipped, well, lucky you. I've said this before: I've done some stupid things in my life that maybe should have killed me, but didn't. That doesn't mean I would suggest to anyone else that they do what I did. Why would you want to encourage dangerous behavior in others?

Snowbird...

Careful with the common sense advise! If you keep posting that people should follow their doc's advice you'll be accused of being a doc-wannbe! ;o)

[Susie Girl 75 0]

Are you aware that I was also telling Ebeth that she should call her doctor?

Oh, its so not evil!!!

Why would I give my opinion telling someone to call their doctor but expect them not to listen or follow doctors orders. If you re-read what I wrote you would see that. I am all for listening to your doctor and following orders! I am not a rule breaker and have following my post-op diet to the letter!!! That's the only way to ensure success!!!

I think you just like to oppose and argue BubbleButt... I feel sorry for you actually... I would hate to go through life like that.

Edited August 7, 2008 by Susie Girl 75