This surgery is bullshit...

[SleeverSk 627]

54 minutes ago, LadyH said:

There are also huge differences between people depending on build, age, medical conditions, medications, exercise capacity, peevious dieting/yo-yo dieting, etc., etc., etc.,

hang in there, Sleeversk

I am, but it not just weight loss i referred to its the psychological side of things which i feel is more important. Because if you are struggling mentally you in turn struggle physically too.

[TRAVELRN 73]

I had gastric sleeve surgery on July 21st. Over the first six weeks I lost 30lbs. I haven't lost a single pound since then..... My doctor keeps saying I need to keep my daily calorie intake to 800 or less to lose weight. I haven't been logging everything but I think I'm staying around that number... I'm not a very disciplined person so keeping track of that every day usually doesn't happen. I'm super frustrated and getting depressed over this. If I was able to lose weight by sticking to a very strict diet and exercise program I would have done that a long time ago and never had the surgery. I had a big part of my stomach removed for nothing.... Anybody else out there who can't lose weight even after weight loss surgery? I don't know what to do....

Like everyone else I'm going to say its a tool, not a quick fix. With that I found I had the most success PRE SURGERY losing weight by logging everything. You may think you are staying in the guidelines but you will see that you're actually not. There are tons of food tracking apps. It takes repetition to get in the habit but you will see as I did that those days you skip it, you went off plan. EVERYTIME. Whether conscious or unconscious sabotage comes from within. Stop. Close your eyes. Deep breath. You have to SLOW everything down in the beginning to one meal at a time. You can't think months down the road. Stop weighing yourself everyday,, two to three times per day.. this process...It's day to day, min to min. It's a total process. You have to take an HONEST raw look at your habits and the reasons why you eat.
Don't be hard on yourself. You've given yourself a wonderful tool to become healthier.

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Nannette

[ColieCallwell 128]

Its not like that for everyone, i am 17 weeks out and i am starving most of the time even after eating my stomache feels like its going to start eating itself

I felt what I thought was hunger too, like my stomach was screaming for food! I think it might have actually just been thirst...? My surgeon acted like I was crazy when I told her I felt hunger all the time, she was no help. I found that if I drank some warm tea or Bone Broth, the feeling went away. And boy oh boy, the head hunger! For the first few months after surgery, all I did was fantasize about food, watch cooking videos, scroll through recipes on My Fitness Pal. I'm a little over 3 months out now, and that has stopped (thank goodness!). I think it's all a learning process. Also, over Thanksgiving week, I was eating over 1,000 calories a day, and my body loved it - I had been at a plateau for a couple of weeks and dropped 5 lbs in a couple of days when I was eating more. Maybe just experiment with yourself and see what works/helps. Try different things, switch it up a little. Good luck and be kind to yourself!

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[MOSKII77* 0]

AGREED!!

Im Going Thru The Same Thing****

2yrs Feb.

[BayougirlMrsS 3,933]

I'm pretty sure this person just came here to stir the pot. But if he/she didn't......... shame on them.

I feel no pity for them.... the very first post was how he/she was not following the plan... and "guessed" that he/she was eating 800. If you are "guessing" 800 you can bet it's more like 1600.......but he/she won't log food to see what he/she is actually eating....

[SleeverSk 627]

15 minutes ago, BayougirlMrsS said:

I'm pretty sure this person just came here to stir the pot. But if he/she didn't......... shame on them.

I feel no pity for them.... the very first post was how he/she was not following the plan... and "guessed" that he/she was eating 800. If you are "guessing" 800 you can bet it's more like 1600.......but he/she won't log food to see what he/she is actually eating....

wow.................

[Elaine77 15]

Exactly, the surgery is bullshit. It's a total gamble.... I would never recommend someone have two thirds of a healthy organ removed from their body because it MIGHT help them develop a habit.

My doctor put me through an intense 6 month program to see if I was ready to develop better habits. So I knew that restricted cals was required post-op and that I could do it (it was also required pre-op). If you really want this start logging all your food - thats an easy habit. Then make an appt with your surgeons nutritionist. Im sorry you are struggling but you CAN do this.

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[rrjones1974 4]

Pay attention to the measurements not the scale. Also switch up on what you eat to trick your body out of the stall but with healthy stuff

[Jaye W 219]

I don’t see how people can expect to be successful early on without tracking Protein and Water. As most of the folks that have had successful weight loss have noted if you meet the 64 oz Fluid guidelines and 60-80 oz of protein daily the tool works. If one was not willing to do that I am not sure why surgery was considered a good option for the OP. The surgery team needs accurate data in order to help you so there has to be some sort of tracking to measure what one is eating. Protocols were developed for a reason. The bullshit is expecting results with little adherence to the recommended protocol.

[SleeverSk 627]

wow, its just not in some peoples nature to track, journal or keep a diary and for those of you who this comes easily good for you but there is no need to be little those that don't. Maybe people should be looking at these surgical teams that approve the non trackers/ meal preppers/ planners and ask the question why were they approved if it is such a crucial part of the "journey". some of us encountered sleeve and leave surgeons with no support and it is bullshit. the OP is right some of you people need to get down off your high horses and stop looking down your noses at people who's road they travel on for this "journey" is different to yours

[Jaelzion 1,123]

11 minutes ago, SleeverSk said:

wow, its just not in some peoples nature to track, journal or keep a diary and for those of you who this comes easily good for you but there is no need to be little those that don't. Maybe people should be looking at these surgical teams that approve the non trackers/ meal preppers/ planners and ask the question why were they approved if it is such a crucial part of the "journey". some of us encountered sleeve and leave surgeons with no support and it is bullshit. the OP is right some of you people need to get down off your high horses and stop looking down your noses at people who's road they travel on for this "journey" is different to yours

If you read through the thread, it HAS been stated that the OP was not a good candidate and shouldn't have been approved for the surgery if s/he was not willing to work at adopting the habits that lead to success. We're not focusing on that point because it's not helpful now. What's done is done. As I said in an earlier post, if the OP just wants to vent and isn't really interested in advice, then all we can say is "I'm sorry you're having a hard time."

But the OP isn't even 6 months out from surgery, so it's much too early to say the surgery has failed unless the OP is unwilling to make changes. People on BariatricPal are disposed to help, so when someone posts "I don't know what to do", we will jump in and try to help with analysis and advice. From the OP's reaction to that advice, it's become clear that this thread was just intended to vent the OP's frustration and anger. Those feelings are valid, but we can't really help with them except to say that it would be a good idea to seek therapy. Beyond that, almost no one on BariatricPal is going to say "Yes, you're right, the surgery is BS." because too many of us have had it change our lives for the better. So if that's the only thing you and the OP would consider to be supportive, you're both likely to be disappointed. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[SleeverSk 627]

1 minute ago, Jaelzion said:

If you read through the thread, it HAS been stated that the OP was not a good candidate and shouldn't have been approved for the surgery if s/he was not willing to work at adopting the habits that lead to success. We're not focusing on that point because it's not helpful now. What's done is done. As I said in an earlier post, if the OP just wants to vent and isn't really interested in advice, then all we can say is "I'm sorry you're having a hard time."

But the OP isn't even 6 months out from surgery, so it's much too early to say the surgery has failed unless the OP is unwilling to make changes. People on BariatricPal are disposed to help, so when someone posts "I don't know what to do", we will jump in and try to help with analysis and advice. From the OP's reaction to that advice, it's become clear that this thread was just intended to vent the OP's frustration and anger. Those feelings are valid, but we can't really help with them except to say that it would be a good idea to seek therapy. Beyond that, almost no one on BariatricPal is going to say "Yes, you're right, the surgery is BS." because too many of us have had it change our lives for the better. So if that's the only thing you and the OP would consider to be supportive, you're both likely to be disappointed. 🤷🏽‍♀️

You have offered great advice on many thread threads so I hope you dont think I was referring to you, but there have been quite a few people that have come off as being self righteous. in the original post he /she said they werent good at tracking what they are eating, yes doing that would be helpful but some people arent cut out that way. some commenters also worded it in such a way that if you didn't track there is no way you would succeed and you are a lesser person because of that. Which isn't helpful either.

[LadyH 57]

2 hours ago, SleeverSk said:

You have offered great advice on many thread threads so I hope you dont think I was referring to you, but there have been quite a few people that have come off as being self righteous. in the original post he /she said they werent good at tracking what they are eating, yes doing that would be helpful but some people arent cut out that way. some commenters also worded it in such a way that if you didn't track there is no way you would succeed and you are a lesser person because of that. Which isn't helpful either.

Lol-none of us on THIS site can be “lesser” people, that’s for sure!
just kidding, folks.

[Lisa LoVuolo 63]

Sounds super disheartening! I have only lost 30lbs so far too, but that isn't cause to give up. I had my A1C done last week, and in just 30lbs of loss I'm no longer diabetic, not even pre-diabetic. Any loss is good loss. If you are feeling angry and frustrated, acknowledge it, then ask what you need to do to get things moving in a positive direction again. More Water? Different macros? Physical activity? Everyone's journey is different, so don't compare yours to anyone else's and think you've failed. You've only failed once you quit trying. I hope it gets better, goodmanje!

I am pre diabetic but my blood work came back 6.4

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[ness079 1]

I feel exactly the same as you ☹️