I violate thermodynamics and it's crap

[WafflingWafa 17]

57 minutes ago, KayBee1972 said:

I bought a sewing tape measure that fit my hips. They're down maybe 2.5" from when I measured a month ago. My chest definitely lost inches and my waist maybe 1". I keep hoping it will budge. I'm honestly just glad I'm not alone in this. Not that I take any pleasure in hearing that other people have the same problem, I'm just glad to not be alone.

It's definitely a help to know you're not alone!'and although it would be fantastic to be a rapid looser... a loss is a loss ...and inches definitely count !!! Onwards and downwards!!!!!

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11 hours ago, KayBee1972 said:

Apparently what they don't tell you is that there are people who aren't successful metabolically

That is absolutely terrifying.

[KayBee1972 13]

19 hours ago, Miratia said:

That is absolutely terrifying.

More like infuriating. If I'd been told that that there was a 20% chance I'd not lose any meaningful weight, I might have just stayed the way I was, e.g. stomach intact and taken my chances with life. At least I wouldn't be so pissed off.

[XtinaDoesIt 196]

Hey folks! 👋

This thread came back up in my feed. Wondering how you all are doing... Im still losing slowly and stalling most of the time.... almost 4 months out... 30 lbs since surgery... roughly 5-7 lbs a month after the 15lbs I lost month 1.. scared because I seem to lose a little less every month... a friend of mine just did the surgery and is down 30 lbs month 1 😞... happy for her... I guess.. lol

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I've stopped losing inches now. Everything has just come to a total halt for the past 3 weeks or so. I did go on vacation week-before-last, so that particular week is a wash. I didn't eat everything in sight, but I did decide I could have dessert and drink wine with the husband. That said, me eating a lot now would probably hit 2000 calories -- it's so hard to overeat. I get full for an entire day on what would have been one standard meal out of 2 or 3 before. I have to break this stall naturally eventually, right? Physics says so?

My bathroom scale is irritatingly unreliable. I can stand shifted to my right foot and gain 5-10 pounds, to the left and lose 5-10. It's obnoxious. I think I'm around 230-235 right now. It makes sense with how I'm fitting into my clothes and how the scale has wobbled around. Dishearteningly, that's where I was before I gained the pandemic weight. So really, I look no thinner than I did before Covid. Ugh. That said, I did lose 20-30 pounds in 2 months, which is astounding compared to past progress. That's about 3 lbs a week, which IIRC is considered really dang good. Maybe time is just going slower since the ESG than I think.

I know I'm slipping on drinking Water. I don't like having to pee frequently. That said, I'm sweating more, which is a good thing considering I'm just about anhydrotic most of the time. Maybe I've just been dehydrated my entire life.

I picked up weightlifting again. I started out pretty weak, and I've had to skip some days because of the extreme heat (no AC in the gym aaaah) and work stress. That said, I'm up to 185 lb squats and 95 lbs bench-press now. That's something.

[Soon2bFit21 109]

On 06/14/2021 at 12:01, Miratia said:

I've stopped losing inches now. Everything has just come to a total halt for the past 3 weeks or so. I did go on vacation week-before-last, so that particular week is a wash. I didn't eat everything in sight, but I did decide I could have dessert and drink wine with the husband. That said, me eating a lot now would probably hit 2000 calories -- it's so hard to overeat. I get full for an entire day on what would have been one standard meal out of 2 or 3 before. I have to break this stall naturally eventually, right? Physics says so?

My bathroom scale is irritatingly unreliable. I can stand shifted to my right foot and gain 5-10 pounds, to the left and lose 5-10. It's obnoxious. I think I'm around 230-235 right now. It makes sense with how I'm fitting into my clothes and how the scale has wobbled around. Dishearteningly, that's where I was before I gained the pandemic weight. So really, I look no thinner than I did before Covid. Ugh. That said, I did lose 20-30 pounds in 2 months, which is astounding compared to past progress. That's about 3 lbs a week, which IIRC is considered really dang good. Maybe time is just going slower since the ESG than I think.

I know I'm slipping on drinking Water. I don't like having to pee frequently. That said, I'm sweating more, which is a good thing considering I'm just about anhydrotic most of the time. Maybe I've just been dehydrated my entire life.

I picked up weightlifting again. I started out pretty weak, and I've had to skip some days because of the extreme heat (no AC in the gym aaaah) and work stress. That said, I'm up to 185 lb squats and 95 lbs bench-press now. That's something.

It sounds like time for a new scale. You shouldn’t have variations like that and there are many reasonably priced ones on Amazon that work wonderfully abs also track other measurements. I think I spent $20 on mine that has all the bells and whistles and a great app.

Are you weighing and measuring foods accurately and tracking the cals and macros? You’d be surprised how off eyeballing can be at times or not picking the right foods.

Also, have you had a FULL thyroid panel done as well as hormones? There may be something off that is not being picked up on.

Last, I start stalling when I eat TOO FEW calories. Your metabolism can shut down and less is not always more.

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4 hours ago, Soon2bFit21 said:

It sounds like time for a new scale. You shouldn’t have variations like that and there are many reasonably priced ones on Amazon that work wonderfully abs also track other measurements. I think I spent $20 on mine that has all the bells and whistles and a great app.

Are you weighing and measuring foods accurately and tracking the cals and macros? You’d be surprised how off eyeballing can be at times or not picking the right foods.

Also, have you had a FULL thyroid panel done as well as hormones? There may be something off that is not being picked up on.

Last, I start stalling when I eat TOO FEW calories. Your metabolism can shut down and less is not always more.

I sort of weigh my food. Mostly I get food in a known weight quantity and eat a known fraction of it. So, if I get a pound of pork tenderloin, and cut it evenly into quarters, each is roughly a quarter pound. I'm at least eating an accurate weight over a few meals. I probably need to get a food scale, but I've always balked at that because it feels a bit obsessive and sucks the fun out of meals a bit. I might still try.

I do keep track of calories and macros on MyFitnessPal. I tend to do pretty well, though anytime I ever dare to have a sandwich I kick myself because bread is so dang caloriffic. I try to eat mostly meat dishes, skipping the bread and Pasta and such. I'm not Keto, though. (If I were keto, I'd totally weigh like 10 pounds less, though honestly it doesn't make a single difference in my inches it seems.)

Yeah, I definitely need a new scale. This one is screwy. I've been procrastinating lol.

Yup, I've had my thyroid tested like five times over the past five years. Keeps coming back "fine, not quite low." I did go on Synthroid once and it made no difference, so it was discontinued.

I'm eating 1000-1200 calories a day, with occasional mistakes. I know I'm not perfect, but I'm doing my best. My guess is I need to have more NEAT (non-workout exercise, basically), but I have a sit-down computer job, and when I get interrupted, it's hard to focus. That puts a bit of a damper on walking around a lot. >< I'm trying, at least, and my clothes fit some better.

Notably, I don't get food cravings nearly so much. I used to be the sort of person who could never eat just a couple pieces of chocolate -- I'd eat the whole bag, so I had to never keep sweets in my house whatsoever. Now, I can actually do stuff in moderation. I also don't eat when I'm bored almost at all anymore, and I don't get random sugar cravings every day. I don't get nearly as hangry, though now I get physical stomach pains from being hungry if I don't keep up with meals. I'm guessing this is a hormonal change from part of my stomach having atrophied due to being folded up and unusable.

Edited June 15, 2021 by Miratia

[Soon2bFit21 109]

On 06/15/2021 at 14:21, Miratia said:

I sort of weigh my food. Mostly I get food in a known weight quantity and eat a known fraction of it. So, if I get a pound of pork tenderloin, and cut it evenly into quarters, each is roughly a quarter pound. I'm at least eating an accurate weight over a few meals. I probably need to get a food scale, but I've always balked at that because it feels a bit obsessive and sucks the fun out of meals a bit. I might still try.

I do keep track of calories and macros on MyFitnessPal. I tend to do pretty well, though anytime I ever dare to have a sandwich I kick myself because bread is so dang caloriffic. I try to eat mostly meat dishes, skipping the bread and Pasta and such. I'm not Keto, though. (If I were Keto, I'd totally weigh like 10 pounds less, though honestly it doesn't make a single difference in my inches it seems.)

Yeah, I definitely need a new scale. This one is screwy. I've been procrastinating lol.

Yup, I've had my thyroid tested like five times over the past five years. Keeps coming back "fine, not quite low." I did go on Synthroid once and it made no difference, so it was discontinued.

I'm eating 1000-1200 calories a day, with occasional mistakes. I know I'm not perfect, but I'm doing my best. My guess is I need to have more NEAT (non-workout exercise, basically), but I have a sit-down computer job, and when I get interrupted, it's hard to focus. That puts a bit of a damper on walking around a lot. >< I'm trying, at least, and my clothes fit some better.

Notably, I don't get food cravings nearly so much. I used to be the sort of person who could never eat just a couple pieces of chocolate -- I'd eat the whole bag, so I had to never keep sweets in my house whatsoever. Now, I can actually do stuff in moderation. I also don't eat when I'm bored almost at all anymore, and I don't get random sugar cravings every day. I don't get nearly as hangry, though now I get physical stomach pains from being hungry if I don't keep up with meals. I'm guessing this is a hormonal change from part of my stomach having atrophied due to being folded up and unusable.

I know it’s not fun weighing and measuring, but at this point if you’re not having progress, I’d say it’s a definite must. Once you develop the habit, it becomes second nature and isn’t a task to chore. Since we eat so few calories to begin with, it’s SO easy to go over if things are not tracked right. The cream in a sugar free coffee or a few bites of this or that can add up to hundreds of cals in a day.

I’m completely sedentary too unless I am doing my daily walk or working out. It is possible to lose weight like this.

In terms of hormones, I’m worried that your doctor(s) may be overlooking something. The thyroid is a slippery slope and just because one doctors says it’s fine, does not mean it is. You mentioned going on synthroid before, so it does make me think that someone has considered your levels to be an issue at one point. Personally I gained weight on synthroid and terrible side effects. It often doesn’t work for many. If something isn’t right, keep pushing for answers and don’t give up. It took me years and many thousands of my $ to figure out what the cause of my issues were. VSG was an amazing tool to help me on my journey, but if you have something going on that is not detected, it will vastly slow your results.

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04/08/2021 12:45 PM, Miratia said:

I'm so absurdly furious about all these people who are like "yeah I got a procedure and lost 10 pounds immediately." I *hate* how I look. I am adhering so pristinely to this diet after ESG that I could be a monk. And yet, not a single damn pound lost. Not one! THIS IS NOT EVEN FAIR. When do I get to look okay? When do I get results? Do I magically break physics? What the hell is wrong with me?! Am I just one of those magic people like PCOS folks whose bodies can survive on like 500 cal/day and still be fat? Bodies are awful, and I hate mine.

I hope you’re finding your way now! Sometimes these things take time, but still so frustrating. I met with an ESG specialist and they told me I could lose up to 50 pounds but it would take time (I went with VSG).