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Well most of them it's not that it totally failed... It's after a few years they gained weight.
Everyone says that this is a tool and you still have to do the work. I'm just afraid that it won't work for me. Even the people who say that it didn't work great for them admit that they are eating food they shouldn't. But seeing the success stories is amazing.
OCC does a sleeve rescue. If after a few years you feel like your pouch is bigger, you can have it plicated to be smaller again.
Several have done this. I just have to tell myself that it's not all over. I will lose weight and if I feel like I can eat more I can get it plicated. (Of course that's more money $$$)
I am kind of confused how they are claiming that plication is a gastric sleeve rescue procedure. The long term weight loss is less.

https://www.bariatric-surgery-source.com/gastric-plication-surgery.html#compare


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1 hour ago, Ninabnina77 said:

Oh my, I feel your pain. I never knew that OCC does sleeve rescue. Gastric plication is it's own option, while in was there there was a young girl in her late teens that had come in to do the gastric plication surgery as opposed to the VSG. Do you know how much they charge for the plication surgery? Well when Dr. Ariel Ortiz told me that he does the super sleeve surgery (he invented himself) basically after he resects the stomach, he uses staples to close the incision area than he uses a row of nylon sutures to reinforce the same area. This helps reinforce the area to keep it intact longer. I am hoping this method also helps prevent long term stomach stretching out and ruining the sleeves results. Can you tell me what is the percentage of success stories as opposed to failures that you have seen on ooc Facebook page?

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Haha! I just typed up this really long response and then my phone glitched and it's gone.

Yes Dr. Ortiz told us all about the super sleeve. That sounds awesome because I think it will keep us from getting hernias.

I once heard that plication is the same cost as the sleeve.

Someone recently asked if people have regained weights. Two come to mind who said that they regained quite a bit of weight.

Some said they have gained back 5 or 10 lb but that they were fine with it because they had lost too much weight. Most said that they maintained within about 5 lb.

All of them said that you can never relax and eat the way you used to. You have to use this time to retrain your brain. I hope I can.

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Haha! I just typed up this really long response and then my phone glitched and it's gone.
Yes Dr. Ortiz told us all about the super sleeve. That sounds awesome because I think it will keep us from getting hernias.
I once heard that plication is the same cost as the sleeve.
Someone recently asked if people have regained weights. Two come to mind who said that they regained quite a bit of weight.
Some said they have gained back 5 or 10 lb but that they were fine with it because they had lost too much weight. Most said that they maintained within about 5 lb.
All of them said that you can never relax and eat the way you used to. You have to use this time to retrain your brain. I hope I can.
That's not bad statistics at all, very encouraging. When I started the pre OP diet I was 235 lbs, if I loose all the weight and only gain 5 to 10 lbs of the weight by 5 year or more I will be still so happy. To me that is still success. :) I am 5'9, my ideal weight to be is between 140-150 lbs. I hope I can make it to 140 lbs so I always have some room and dint freak out if I can a few pounds.

I am very happy I met you on here, now we can compare our progress to one another. I wish us both lots of luck.

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Haha! I just typed up this really long response and then my phone glitched and it's gone.
Yes Dr. Ortiz told us all about the super sleeve. That sounds awesome because I think it will keep us from getting hernias.
I once heard that plication is the same cost as the sleeve.
Someone recently asked if people have regained weights. Two come to mind who said that they regained quite a bit of weight.
Some said they have gained back 5 or 10 lb but that they were fine with it because they had lost too much weight. Most said that they maintained within about 5 lb.
All of them said that you can never relax and eat the way you used to. You have to use this time to retrain your brain. I hope I can.
Do you know how much food ( oz and or ml) our healed stomachs are able to hold?

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5 hours ago, Ninabnina77 said:

Omg, I feel just like you. Can't stand Protein shakes anymore. I just want to gag when I see it. I also have sneaked in a few pureed foods. I also am so nervous about this holding up for me. During my Skype consult with Dr. Ortiz, he told me that he does the super sleave. I don't do social media sites so I am not on OCC Facebook page. So there are people on there that talk about their sleeve failing for them? Hearing this makes me even more nervous about this working for me too.

Can someone tell me what a 'super sleeve/sleave' is? Is it your doctor's terminology for a special process that he has come up with /developed or is using?

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Can someone tell me what a 'super sleeve/sleave' is? Is it your doctor's terminology for a special process that he has come up with /developed or is using?
Yes, my surgeon Dr. Ariel Ortiz at OCC in Mexico told me that he does the super sleeve surgery (he invented himself), basically after he resects the stomach, he uses staples to close the incision area than he uses a row of nylon sutures (none absorbable sutures) to reinforce the same area. This helps reinforce the area to keep it intact longer. I am hoping this method also helps prevent long term stomach stretching out and ruining the sleeves results. I actually spoke to Dr. Ortiz today and he said that he is in the process of publishing a article on the Super Sleeve. I got this surgery done by him on June 12, 2019 and my experience so far has been fantastic.

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Can someone tell me what a 'super sleeve/sleave' is? Is it your doctor's terminology for a special process that he has come up with /developed or is using?
Yes, my surgeon Dr. Ariel Ortiz at OCC in Mexico told me that he does the super sleave surgery (he invented himself), basically after he resects the stomach, he uses staples to close the incision area than he uses a row of nylon sutures (none absorbable sutures) to reinforce the same area. This helps reinforce the area to keep it intact longer. I am hoping this method also helps prevent long term stomach stretching out and ruining the sleeves results. I actually spoke to Dr. Ortiz today and he said that he is in the process of publishing a article on the Super Sleave. I got this surgery done by him on June 12, 2019 and my experience so far has been fantastic.

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Yes, my surgeon Dr. Ariel Ortiz at OCC in Mexico told me that he does the super sleave surgery (he invented himself), basically after he resects the stomach, he uses staples to close the incision area than he uses a row of nylon sutures (none absorbable sutures) to reinforce the same area. This helps reinforce the area to keep it intact longer. I am hoping this method also helps prevent long term stomach stretching out and ruining the sleeves results. I actually spoke to Dr. Ortiz today and he said that he is in the process of publishing a article on the Super Sleave. I got this surgery done by him on June 12, 2019 and my experience so far has been fantastic.

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I think this picture will help visualize what he does. After he places the staples he uses a row of nylon sutures. He said the the staples eventually get loose and fall out will the nylon sutures will permanently stay intact to help reinforce the area.20190625_231409.jpeg

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@Ninabnina77 I don't think rice is on the list but sweet potatoes are - Mashed of course.

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12 hours ago, Ninabnina77 said:

Do you know how much food ( oz and or ml) our healed stomachs are able to hold?

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I've heard 2-4 oz. It is different for everyone.

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Ninabnina, I'm also glad we find each other!

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8 hours ago, KarenLR75 said:

Can someone tell me what a 'super sleeve/sleave' is? Is it your doctor's terminology for a special process that he has come up with /developed or is using?

The staple and the stitches he has been doing for awhile. More recently he started adding a few stitches to anchor the stomach in place. This will keep us from getting hernias. (They cut a bunch of tissue to get the big part of the stomach out and it can leave it more free floating and can cause hernias.

This link explains what our surgeon does.

http://edu.occbalance.com/app/public/occ/education/lesson/eyJpdiI6IlZcL1lqZTlIR1pmTEdMMjF5WHBWMDJBPT0iLCJ2YWx1ZSI6IlZIZURPVnNNOFNUVkRPSHRGTTZETUdLSDVMWWc1aGxFT3Y4c21hYk1cL1FvPSIsIm1hYyI6ImZmYTJlOGM2NGY1MjgxNWYzMWFjZTJjYWRmMmYwMmI1ZDhjMWI5MzI1OGQzNTVhMWIwMjM4ODkxZGYzM2M3OTEifQ==

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Hi all, how are you all getting on? I had my gastric by pass on the 2nd July and I'm 4 weeks post, 3 weeks on liquids, 2 on pureed and 2 on soft food. I'm on pureed right now. I lost 14lbs in the 1st two weeks. I've been on a stall for 2 weeks. Would love to make some friends on here as I'm from the UK and bariatric surgery isn't popular or a talked about thing. So I'm feeling alone, I hope your all doing well. Xxx

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Hi all, how are you all getting on? I had my gastric by pass on the 2nd July and I'm 4 weeks post, 3 weeks on liquids, 2 on pureed and 2 on soft food. I'm on pureed right now. I lost 14lbs in the 1st two weeks. I've been on a stall for 2 weeks. Would love to make some friends on here as I'm from the UK and bariatric surgery isn't popular or a talked about thing. So I'm feeling alone, I hope your all doing well. Xxx
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Hi Nay143, how are you? I had the gastric sleeve surgery 2 months ago in June 2019. How is your progress going?

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Can someone tell me what a 'super sleeve/sleave' is? Is it your doctor's terminology for a special process that he has come up with /developed or is using?
Here is a new video that was posted on YouTube today that explains the super sleeve. Hope it helps.



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