It has been a really long day, followed by a dinner out with multiple margaritas, so I am ready post my first LBT Rants and Raves post.

I won't follow the herd anymore. Ever. I stopped doing that years ago when I realized that I made every decision based upon how I could make the most people happy (or prevent conflict). That's simply not healthy. And it takes all the fun out of life.

I hate absolutes. Absolutely hate them. I can't stand to lump a group of people together for any reason. All people at LBT are not sweet and perfect. All people at OH are not cheerleaders and ***** supporters. All Muslims are not extreme radicals. Not all of us Texas women are Southern Belles (ok so that one is debatable). All women are not subservient (ok I know you ladies agree with that one). We are all, quite simply, just people.

I don't want to be told I have to do something because it is the Christian thing to do. Are you my priest? My rabbi? My high priestess? Where do people get off on judging other people????? I don't freakin' get it. Each of us have own spirituality or lack of it. Each of us have our own moral core - although some are harder to identify than others. Don't attack me because I don't agree with you - hire a yes-man for that job - it doesn't pay enough for me to take it. And don't push your personal belief system off on me.

I like most people. Really I do. And I get along with most people. Some people just get to me, and I don't have to like them. There is no rule about that. There is only one person on my bad list at the moment, and if I ever get a personal apology that person will come off the list. You and I don't have to like the same people or have the same ideas to be friends. I prefer friends who are different from me. If I wanted everyone to be like me - well then I would become a hermit(ess) and just have ME for companionship.

I love our differences. I love the passion in which so many of us debate what we believe in. I just hate the herd mentality that says we all have to believe the same thing, or like the same people, or hate the same people....because ya know what? We don't. We are different. Our differences make us unique and teach us more about life than any book will.

And one more thing. I rarely drink and I really love Margaritas! :whoo:

I can agree to disagree about Wendell. I wont be changing my mind about him anytime soon. I dont have any problem believing he was wronged at one time or another by Sandy. But I do feel his campaign against Sandy on OH (more than just protein shakes of course) did affect others. I am not sticking up for Sandy..I am sticking up for the others. I know it affected me, I couldnt log on to the damn board without their hostilities in my face all the time.

I am somewhat impressed by your restraint in your reply. There may be more to you than meets the eye. (you dont have to care..but thats my way of saying Hmmmmm? gotta think on some of the stuff she said)

The jeering and mocking comment wasnt meant for you..if you go back you might figure it out...it doesnt matter I was hoping that person would get it.

I will say this one more time if Sandy did what you guys are saying she did its wrong, immoral, and a crime. I dont like any of it. Sandy and I have disagreed a few times..even publicly. But I wont commit to saying she did these things because I havent done the research. Thats fair isnt it?

OH is where I learned how to live with my band...I will always be grateful to have had the support that many many have given there. I hate the moderators..I hate the drama (most of it anyway)..and I hate trolls. But..it is what it is.

I would like to bury the hatchet.

Thank you. I think we both got a little overly pissy, with tempers riding so high. That's all I wanted, an acknowledgement that what Sandy did was wrong. If you want the links to the stuff she did, WASa can probably help you. I've seen the stuff, but I didn't keep the links. I mean, I can personally attest to her taking an abstract of a scientific article, adding on to the conclusions section, and then posting it and literally saying that the authors of the article made those conclusions. I've seen the licensing report thingies from where she lost her RN licence (she was never an NP). I don't pretend to believe that Wendell is perfect. Believe me, we don't agree on many things. But I don't think that anything he did justified what Sandy did. And honestly, she was already committing a crime by claiming to be licensed way before they started clashing.

So yes, consider the hatchet buried. I think we can definitely become friends. Well, as long as we don't discuss anything to do with OH. I seriously hate that place.

Although, some people don't understand that. There was a massive fight a few months ago because some idiots didn't understand that they were adults, and as such, weren't forced to go into a thread they didn't like. THey were trying to get all RnR and Talk Lounge threads removed from the New Posts section.

Oh, of course. And the ringleaders were folks who don't even come to the board anymore, at least not that I've seen recently. What the hell do they care?

Come to speak of it, that reminds me of OH, too. People can't just look past the single thread they don't like, they have to complain to the mods that it's "taking up too much space and being posted too often." WTF? It's ONE freakin' thread. Pull up your big girl panties and ignore it.

I am always amused at how many control freaks seem to be banded.

Well, I did a little research and came up with the Wikipedia entry for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

It sure seemed to fit some folks there.

Wow. I assume since I started the thread in question, I am the idiot. Kind of gives me the "warm and fuzzies" to know I am an idiot with a personality disorder. Thanks Laurend and Wendell.

Wow. I assume since I started the thread in question, I am the idiot. Kind of gives me the "warm and fuzzies" to know I am an idiot with a personality disorder. Thanks Laurend and Wendell.

You do realize, of course, that you were not the topic of discussion in all but one of those links?

You do realize, of course, that you were not the topic of discussion in all but one of those links?

Well, since I started the thread and was vocal, I assume I am one of the "ringleaders". And that quote was quoted in the other quotes. so...If I am wrong, my apologies

Well, since I started the thread and was vocal, I assume I am one of the "ringleaders". And that quote was quoted in the other quotes. so...If I am wrong, my apologies

Yep, you are wrong. The topic is about people from another banding forum, not you. Honest.

Look, I'll be super honest, here. Thinking back to when I was at OH and when I've read since then, I don't remember Sandy or Wendell starting most of the stuff. Most of the threads and posts that are clear in my mind were started or posted by other people. Sure, Wendell made posts, and so did Sandy. But the fuss wasn't made by them, for the most part. I don't think it's correct to state that either one is responsible for affecting the board. They weren't. Most people ignored their posts. If there was a specific person that you didn't like or didn't agree with, you either ignored them or put them on block once it became available. What really affected the board were the threads and posts made by other people. It made it an intensely uncomfortable place to visit, simply because it wasn't just one person that you could block. You could go into a thread that seemed harmless from it's title, and it would be someone bitching about someone without every actually stating their name. Of course, you still knew who they were talking about. It was stuff like that that really affected the board. Protein posts didn't, since as everyone knows, people aren't alike. Some people wouldn't do well with protein drinks. Other people do just fine or even wonderfully (just look at WASa). I think most of the people at the board knew that.

I can say, as a new bandster and a pre-bandster at the time, the protein posts and candy posts and so on weren't what bothered me. My nutritionist told me that what works, works. As long as you are healthy, losing weight, you're happy, your doctor is happy, and your nutritionist is happy, who cares if you have a mini candy bar or a protein shake?

Wow. I assume since I started the thread in question, I am the idiot. Kind of gives me the "warm and fuzzies" to know I am an idiot with a personality disorder. Thanks Laurend and Wendell.

1. Like WASa said, you were only referred to in the first two of those quotes. And yeah, I don't think a lot of anyone who, instead of simply ignoring threads they don't want to read, decide that they want to restrict everyone else's access. But still, you were referred to in only those quotes. We were actually talking about other people the rest of the time.

2. If you want to go back to discussing that other thread, I'm sure it's somewhere in the depths of RnR.

1. Like WASa said, you were only referred to in the first two of those quotes. And yeah, I don't think a lot of anyone who, instead of simply ignoring threads they don't want to read, decide that they want to restrict everyone else's access. But still, you were referred to in only those quotes. We were actually talking about other people the rest of the time.

2. If you want to go back to discussing that other thread, I'm sure it's somewhere in the depths of RnR.

Good to know I am just an idiot, but do not have a personality disorder, wheeew, that makes me feel better I don't care to go back to that thread, you brought it up, not me.

I think Chelles cowboys pic is a personal attack on me because she knows how much we can't stand that asshole T.O. up here in Philly....

:heh:

I think Chelles cowboys pic is a personal attack on me because she knows how much we can't stand that asshole T.O. up here in Philly....

:heh:

T.O. will be back in Philly on November 4th - get ready!

I am pretty sure he will get more press than McNabb. These folks just won't let the T.O. thing go.

T.O. will be back in Philly on November 4th - get ready!

I am pretty sure he will get more press than McNabb. These folks just won't let the T.O. thing go.

Maybe Philly will take T.O. back????

Maybe Philly will take T.O. back????

I don't think so, he is a bit of a nut and these people just hate him. I was actually hoping the Lions would beat the Eagles because I'm from Detroit, but it was not to be. Guess I'll just have to stick with Michigan State and of course my Pistons as far as sports go. It sure was nice to live in Boston when the Red Soxs won the world series and of course the Patriots.

LOL - Sandy? The devil? Nah. That's giving her way too much credit. Narcissist? Most assuredly. Delusions of grandeur? Undoubtedly. Pure evil? Seems like. One of Satan's MINIONS - a safer bet.

:-)

LOL - Sandy? The devil? Nah. That's giving her way too much credit. Narcissist? Most assuredly. Delusions of grandeur? Undoubtedly. Pure evil? Seems like. One of Satan's MINIONS - a safer bet.

:-)

LOVE LOVE LOVE that Avatar girl!!!!:clap2: