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4 hours ago, Newme17 said:

Very interesting! Thanks for posting the link. It kind of confirms what I've suspected about HPLC diets, long term; I don't like them. Once cleared for foods, I'll find the right balance for myself, as I'm going more plant based. We shall see....

You're welcome. I tend to eat in a way that mirrors Okinawa or the Mediterranean style out of habit and what I enjoy cooking, so it's hopeful to read.

And maintenance calories seem to be higher than I'd heard which probably explains the discrepancy.

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36 minutes ago, OutsideMatchInside said:

No one is maintaining long term on 600 to 1000 calories. Where is this nonsense coming from?

I'd love to tell you! I read it somewhere on this or another forum and didn't think at the time to question. We'll blame post-op fog for that one. The calorie restriction studies ranged from 800-1500 as I recall based on the size of the person it was a percentage thing.

A somewhat higher maintenance level would explain the apparent discrepancies I saw there.

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On 4/15/2017 at 3:53 PM, HeatherS. said:

I think you're right, especially those who don't follow up on the bloodwork with their GPs. Blood work is what wasn't mentioned by my surgical team.

Also, a lot of people think that because VSG isn't malabsorptive, Vitamin deficiencies aren't an issue while forgetting that some Vitamins need to spend time in the stomach to start breaking down with the stomach acids, which affects how much your body can actually extract (calcium is one of those, I think?)

Its too easy to forget that less food = fewer nutrients. And lots of people going the ketogenic route are virtually eliminating whole categories of nutrient-bearing foods.

You bring up a very interesting point. I was doing research on the Keytogenic diet and the one thing I couldn't wrap my head around was that if I ate one apple, I would probably go over my carbohydrate limit for the day. It didn't make sense to exclude this and other nutritious foods from my diet. I lean more towards Paleo now. Always learning :)

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I'm a moderate carb, moderate Protein, moderate fat kinda gal and have maintained a 100 pound weight loss for three years on 1,100-1,400 calories a day. So I think moderation is the key.


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My surgeon requires follow up with a dietitian at 2 weeks,3, 6, 9, we months and 2 years. She really gave me good info on Vitamins and Protein. I will definitely be following up with my primary doc too though as I have had b and d deficiencies in the past and those have awful implications on our health! I thought I must have a brain tumor and my dr finally diagnosed a Vitamin b deficiency- my thinking was cloudy, I couldn't find my words and my hands were tingling. She did every test she could think of until one time she added a b vitamin level and that was it! Now a $6 sublingual from Walmart has changed my life!!


Mich W
Hw 223, SW 217 CW 200 GW 135

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I haven't had my surgery yet, but a few weeks ago I was sore all over. I decided to increase my Protein. That helped. What really helped was drinking a glass of fat free MILK. I have been taking Calcium tablets for years. After 2 days of drinking 1 glass of milk a day; the soreness went away. Now I drink a glass a day. I don't think the cal supplements did very much for me.

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I've been grappling with would I rather be thin and wrinkled or obese and less wrinkled. It's a hard decision. I have noticed that over weight people have a hard time moving around (me included). Older overweight people really have a hard time moving. I see thin elderly people and they seem to be able to enjoy life a whole lot more.

I'm concerned not just about wrinkles, but huge flaps of lose skin all over, which I hear is more extreme if you are older. Has anybody had the surgery and had to deal with this?

I also heard that even if you lose weight slowly, at my age 56, I'm still going to have flaps of skin. Apparently meaning that I have huge weight issues or folds of skin to look forward to.

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You would be able to enjoy life way more at a healthy weight and will undoubtedly live longer. I am 55 and want to be able to play with my future grand kids and travel the world. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it as overweight as I was/am. The heat of the Dominican Republic was awful on me last month. If we exercise and use moisturizers some of the extra skin will tighten. There may still be issues but that can be corrected with plastic surgery if it's really that bad.
To me it wasn't a choice. I wanted to be healthy!


Mich W
Hw 223, SW 217 CW 199 GW 135

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Thanks! You really made me feel better about my decision!

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That's what I figured. Also another gal on this site posted her after pics of a weight loss over 100 pounds- she posted her abdomen and then after her plastic surgery. I was impressed even with the before pic and she said her plastics were covered by insurance. She posted pre plastics pics with a sick dress on and said she was wearing spa clothes- she looked gorgeous! Cruise the other posts.
I have lost 24 pounds so far and I have more energy than I ever have. I think just the change in diet - low carb hi Protein has made all the difference!
Good luck with your decision!


Mich W
Hw 223, SW 217 CW 199 GW 135

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On 7/21/2017 at 9:30 AM, Animal Lover said:

I've been grappling with would I rather be thin and wrinkled or obese and less wrinkled. It's a hard decision. I have noticed that over weight people have a hard time moving around (me included). Older overweight people really have a hard time moving. I see thin elderly people and they seem to be able to enjoy life a whole lot more.

I'm concerned not just about wrinkles, but huge flaps of lose skin all over, which I hear is more extreme if you are older. Has anybody had the surgery and had to deal with this?

I also heard that even if you lose weight slowly, at my age 56, I'm still going to have flaps of skin. Apparently meaning that I have huge weight issues or folds of skin to look forward to.

One day I was people watching and came to the realization that (from my anecdotal evidence), that there isn't really a high percentage of older people who are morbidly obese. I personally believe the reason you rarely see this, is they die earlier. So, I believe the better question is, would you rather be thin and wrinkled, or obese and dead...

Sorry, don't mean to be so dramatic. This is what I believe, and why I am well on my way to doing the sleeve.

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Thanks! You really made me feel better about my decision!

I went to my dr yesterday- I posted about it in the fifties forum - my doc says my diabetes is gone and one more normal A1C and my diagnoses will be deleted. That's with just 25 pounds down and a low carb diet!


Mich W
Hw 223, SW 217 CW 198 GW 135
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