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Sosa is bad sleeve or no sleeve! Stay away!!

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I still drink as much Coke Zero now as before the surgery. Almost 200 lost pounds later, I don't have any intentions of quitting anytime soon.

How soon post-op did you start having Coke Zero? Does it cause you any discomfort at all? I was a huge diet coke drinker pre-op, and I miss it. I'm not planning to bring it back in the short-term, but I am hoping I can a little bit further down the road.

I started back up on it about 5 weeks post op when I started on solids. I have no discomfort. Only time I had discomfort was when I decided to have some right after a meal. Had about 15 seconds of discomfort then I belched and the discomfort was gone.

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I love my soda stream. Cut my soda bill way down.

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It's exactly the same as soda in that regard, imo.

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The reason why it matters to me, I can't speak to anyone else, is because Sleevers and people with RNY and the band have different anatomy and really different issues. There seems to be some kind of movement to lump everyone together but it isn't beneficial for anyone.

RNY people need to be careful not to stretch their pouches because they do stretch.

Sleeves that are properly made do no stretch.

The idea that sleeves stretch is a myth that we really need to stomp out in the sleeve community. It is a lie and people keep using it as a crutch for bad food/life choices. It send the wrong message to new sleevers and spreads misinformation.

A big part of that is the medical advice we get from the medical professionals at the medical centers where we go to get our surgery. Notice the emphasis on medical. I will return to that in a moment.

I happen to agree with you that inaccurate information needs to be corrected. Your choice of words was stomped out. You corrected me on this last week, and I took that instruction from you because you are experienced, and I am still learning. But the overwhelming fact of the matter is, the medical community carries enormous authority with the things they tell us, whether those things are right or wrong. And how many times do we see posts here telling people to consult their surgeon, nutritionist, CRNP, etc? Those posts bolster that authority.

in opposition to that authority are relatively anonymous people on the internet. Stay with me now, for the next few sentences. This is not to say you have no credence, nor does it dismiss your information out of hand. Lots of people on lots of forums remain anonymous and are still capable of establishing their own bona fides. In this particular instance, they are fighting the bona fides and the information given to us by the very people who shepherded us through the process of our surgery. So you need to consider that when you come up against anyone who is new, and who is repeating the stuff he or she was taught by their medical contacts. That's part one.

Part two is attitude. It is a given that people are going to misunderstand one another from time to time. That happens in real life, and it happens even more on the web between total strangers who are limited to the written word. I make no excuses for anyone, even myself, when it comes to misunderstanding and responding to that. This thread is a fine example of how attitude can adversely affect a thread and personal relationships on both sides. Please note, I am not trying to lecture you, or lay any particular blame at your feet. This is merely a convenient place to make the observation.

The veterans on this board are a valuable resource. They are here to help the noobs, by their own report. Writing as someone who has made teaching a significant part of his career for the last 24 years, I can tell you that part of helping new people is patience. New people have wrong ideas. New people make mistakes. And all of us were new people at one time or another - sometimes over and over again.

I am an expert in my field. I am highly regarded. I spent years and years participating on forums in that capacity answering the same #$%& questions over and over again, correcting the same mistaken information, etc. It takes patience. And no, it does not require taking abuse. Abuse should not be tolerated, but that goes in both directions. So to come back to your choice of words, stomp out the information, but don't stomp out the person. That is counter to what the veterans say they are here for.

People screw up. Tell them so, and then move on. But we're up to how many pages now of driving someone into the dirt because she screwed up? I don't think that is helpful. How many noobs who read this are going to be afraid to ask a question for fear of saying the wrong thing and being vilified for it? Please note, I am not justifying any behavior on either side. Again, I am only making observations.

So this is getting long, and is way more serious than I like to be on a regular basis. I can only do serious for short stints. I have to go post a humorous story that happened. But please consider what I have written here - on both sides.

Spot on and Well said !!!

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That's my fear too. I don't like many drinks like crystal light and stuff. I even don't like Water. My surgery is Jan 11 so I am going to have to keep trying different beverages. And get use to water.

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My surgery is Dec 21 so I'm not sure how I'll like them afterwards, but I really like Steaz. They're canned, organic teas. They come in lots of flavors and many of them are either sweetened with stevia or lightly sweetened with real sugar for a meager amount of carbs/sugar. They also make some unsweetened. I always keep them in the house and hope I still like them after surgery.

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@broove. Good luck. I'll try that.

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I love my soda stream. I haven't tried it post op but the syrups don't have aspartame (which is a Migraine trigger for me) and you can control the carbonation. I can't handle regular carbonation yet but want to try the soda stream soon. I've been craving a little soda taste.

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I want to say for me anyway. I haven't had surgery yet and I have trouble at times drinking any kind of soda. IBS related symptoms I think so this is true even for someone like me that hasn't had surgery yet. Like others, I ❤️ Pepsi, Rootbeer etc but my belly don't like it nor does my waistline!

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I'm a few weeks out and had a glass of Coke Zero. No effects but that's not to say that many people don't have discomfort. The caffeine acts as a diuretic. Make sure you are getting all your liquids in.

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Noted. However, I'm not thin skinned, I just now realize that in this forum I can not have my opinion, instead, I have to ride the band wagon and that I'm not going to do. Regretfully, I came on here for support and it has been the total opposite.

I thank everyone for their time but this is just not for me.

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PLEASE don't give up on this site..It has truly helped me with what I needed to help me pre and post. I look for the positive feedback, read ALOT of people before n after for encouragement and yes I have scrolled pass some posts that tend to degrade n move away from what is asked...because I'm not here for negative jabs (even if not intended) because this process is hard (in all phases) emotionally n physically n information is plentiful (good n bad)... I encourage you to still read post to see what can n can not help you in your journey..I wish you the best proud of you already.

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My surgery is Dec 21 so I'm not sure how I'll like them afterwards, but I really like Steaz. They're canned, organic teas. They come in lots of flavors and many of them are either sweetened with stevia or lightly sweetened with real sugar for a meager amount of carbs/sugar. They also make some unsweetened. I always keep them in the house and hope I still like them after surgery.

Trust me when you taste buds change(they will)..you will find things you don't like tastes pretty good.....GOID LUCK with your journey..new year and new journey..amazing

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