We have all these newbies coming in with questions/statements that make me wonder if they ever sat down with a NUT, their surgeon or if they were given any type of pre-op training.

Is it OK to eat pizza/tacos/fried chicken? Is ice cream soft? How about milk shakes? I ate swedish fish/noodles/rice a few days post op. I am eating french fries and chicken nuggets, but it's ok because I'm ok so everyone else will be too. I want it so I ate it and I am going to get mad an anyone and everyone who tells me it wasn't a good idea.

Anyone who disagrees is mean, rude, sarcastic, judgmental, non supportive, a bully, horrible, rotten, a monster. I get that this backlash is a defense mechanism because they know deep down that they are wrong but it still sucks to watch this downward spiral that is happening here.

It's not great advice to chew and spit. It's not great advice to move along with your food stages because (you think) your body is telling you that it's OK. (Your body does NOT know best or you wouldn't be in this spot in the first place.)

Vets should leave because all the above advice and pandering and coddling is MUCH better than real, honest, truthful, experienced answers.

It's a freaking $h!tstorm out there the last few weeks. Seriously.

32 minutes ago, OutsideMatchInside said:

All the people that helped me be successful don't post here anymore for various reasons. At least I was able to become friends with most of them outside this forum and still have contact with them. There is a huge void here of accurate and experienced advice.

Example, that "Disgusted" thread is posted by someone pre-op without a sleeve, preaching what post-op life should be like, but they aren't even there yet. Until you have a sleeve, you don't really know how one works, even RNY people don't because the surgeries are not the same and the way our stomachs work post op aren't the same. My Surgeon doesn't even know what sleeve life is like, luckily some of the support staff were sleevers and able to offer advice.

Yeah, I feel like it is really important to stay involved in a weight loss community so I can stay on track. People remind me of how easy it is to make mistakes and get off track and also when I feel like I haven't lost enough, I reminded of how hard it is and how far I have came. Still these newbies make it so hard, they don't care what anyone has to say if it doesn't match what they want to hear. *sigh*

Well I am glad you were able to maintain the relationships you had with some of the people on here. I really think its critical to have someone who you can talk to who has went through the process.

As for the newbies, I agree...some of them only care if you are supporting what they want to here. I do think there is some who want the help and guidance, and those are the ones I will focus on.

Edited April 7, 20179 yr by Delta_35

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'm not a fan of "intuitive eating." I WANT to eat chocolate candy, cake, brownies. I love sweets and eating a high carb diet got me to obesity. I didn't even realize it until I started eating low carb. I'm two years out and to maintain I have to eat mainly veggies, meat and fruit. I eat limited dairy (Greek yogurt or cheese), and grains. I gave up rice, pasta and potatoes and don't miss them. I still track daily and have to exercise. I'm post menopause and hypothyroid. I can't afford to eat intuitively.

I never had an eating disorder or needed therapy but understand that others do struggle and encourage those who need help to get it! My morbid obesity was caused primarily by poor food choices, genetics and lack of exercise. The surgery was a godsend for me and I'm grateful every day for this wonderful tool.

To the newbies I say: beware of anyone who tells you can eat anything you want, anytime you want. That's a bullshit lie if you want to succeed at losing and then maintaining your weight loss.

6 hours ago, BestDayEver said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'm not a fan of "intuitive eating." I WANT to eat chocolate candy, cake, brownies. I love sweets and eating a high carb diet got me to obesity. I didn't even realize it until I started eating low carb. I'm two years out and to maintain I have to eat mainly veggies, meat and fruit. I eat limited dairy (Greek yogurt or cheese), and grains. I gave up rice, Pasta and potatoes and don't miss them. I still track daily and have to exercise. I'm post menopause and hypothyroid. I can't afford to eat intuitively.

I never had an eating disorder or needed therapy but understand that others do struggle and encourage those who need help to get it! My morbid obesity was caused primarily by poor food choices, genetics and lack of exercise. The surgery was a godsend for me and I'm grateful every day for this wonderful tool.

To the newbies I say: beware of anyone who tells you can eat anything you want, anytime you want. That's a bullshit lie if you want to succeed at losing and then maintaining your weight loss.

Amen!

7 hours ago, BestDayEver said:

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I'm not a fan of "intuitive eating."

Intuitive eating for food addicts is like saying heroin in moderation. In my keto groups people say eat until you are satisfied, and I have to speak up and remind people that some people are never satisfied because they are food addicts and they just need to portion control. If WLS could be successful at eating intuitive, they would not be WLS patients in the first place.

Everyone isn't a food addict, I don't really think I was, I am just very carb sensitive and a glutton. I like to indulge and pamper myself. Post-op I switch how I do that pampering and treating myself.

Some of us seasoned vets are still here and. .... mostly ignore very ignorant advice from pre ops and recent post ops. Gotta deal with Wls for a year or two ( or 10) to get "it"
I'm happy to offer banded advice but there are a very few of us left [emoji182]