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Sugar, sugar, sugar and the liver reduction diet.

Newbie here! Just started the process in December with a probable date in June if all hoops are jumped through. My surgeon requires a liver reduction diet which is also supposed to prepare me for my diet after surgery. I'm already at my surgery weight of 245 (5'3) and worry about losing too much more weight. My weight at referral was 277.

I will sorely miss Pasta, bread, and all those sweet carb Snacks but I'll survive. I have no idea how I will go completely sugar free. I have psudotumor cerebri and am completely banned from artificial sugars. I cannot stand stevia or surlacose. I'm on topamax so I can't taste carbonated drinks. coffee with cream and sugar in the morning is my life. I can substitute the cream but not the sugar.

Fruit! I love fruit! I eat two apples a day. Bananas are often breakfast. Raspberries dessert or a snack. Oranges I can eat by the crate. I also have Vitamin deficiencies my pcp was trying to solve by food.

How strict are people with the liver diet? Is sugar absolutely a dealbreaker? Is fruit something I'm never going to be able to enjoy again?

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Calories 390 Sodium 390 mg Total Fat 15 g Potassium 0 mg Saturated 6 g Total Carbs 56 g Polyunsaturated 0 g Dietary Fiber 1 g Monounsaturated 0 g Sugars 25 g Trans 0 g Protein 7 g Cholesterol 0 mg

I'd imagine this is chock full of all the things that you HAVE to avoid for your liver to shrink. FYI

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I have until some time in June/July before surgery and am already at my surgery weight. Again, my NUT isn't expecting me to fully start the diet yet.

Hey lucrezaborgoia I too started the process in December! Hoping for a date in may/june. Message me please. You are the first person I have found who has a probable date in the same Month.

And Ms. Borgia, topomax does not cause weight gain. In fact, the generic name for topomax is topiramate and it is one of the components of Qsymia, a weight loss drug. So whoever told you that is wrong. Or perhaps its another med you are on? And no, you cannot and should not have sugar. Deal with stevia or move on. The whole point is to cut out sugar altogether. Also, please try to determine if the weight lost will only come back on if you are staying on the meds?

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And Ms. Borgia, topomax does not cause weight gain. In fact, the generic name for topomax is topiramate and it is one of the components of Qsymia, a weight loss drug. So whoever told you that is wrong. Or perhaps its another med you are on? And no, you cannot and should not have sugar. Deal with stevia or move on. The whole point is to cut out sugar altogether. Also, please try to determine if the weight lost will only come back on if you are staying on the meds?

The reason for the sleeve is because it also cuts down on the hormones that induce hunger. Seroquel is the weigh gainer. And nope. Not dealing with Stevia. Tastes like ass. Been trying it for years. Will cut out except for a tiny bit for surgery and after in moderation.

Maybe I am misunderstanding here, but while you can cut back on sugar (by the teaspoon or whatever) and sugar-added foods, there is still "sugar" in a post-op diet in the form of fruits and some carbs, etc. It takes a while before you can process those and perhaps isn't the best during the early weight loss phase for some if it derails their losing, but none of it is off the table forever. If your NUT is telling you that you can NEVER have sugar of any kind or fruit for the rest of your life, find a new program. Fruit is part of a healthy diet. Good complex carbs are part of a healthy diet.

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Fruits, starchy veggies, and carbs are banned for the liver reduction diet. So is sugar and fatty products.

Another kink in my diet plan is my daughter is a 5% weight child and I can see between my husband's legs as he walks. They want me to focus on Protein intake. I'm also not the cook. Shopping next month is going to be interesting.

I think you should see what emphasizing protein does for your cravings. You may find that you crave sugar so badly merely because you aren't getting enough protein. I think you will also find substantial improvement in this area once you begin the liquid phase, which, to be honest, really helps control general hunger pangs, not just for carbs.

I have pseudo tumor cerbri also and also take Topamax, I was never told to abstain from artificial sweeteners that's different, but I am on the pre-op liver shrinking diet and yes its very limited, the cravings are a lot at the beginning, so bad to the point of a potato chip bag crinkle can may you instantly enraged, but I am on day 3 and the cravings are going away slowly. I still want it, but I want the surgery more. So if you can get past the first 72-96 hours your good as gold. I have 10 days till surgery and am excited, nervous and awaiting the new me. You can do it. If I can anyone can.

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How did you transition your pantry and fridge? What about those of you who have family members who need weight gain? Tomorrow I'm going to the grocery store for a few things to start out with but am not sure what to pick.

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I have pseudo tumor cerbri also and also take Topamax, I was never told to abstain from artificial sweeteners that's different, but I am on the pre-op liver shrinking diet and yes its very limited, the cravings are a lot at the beginning, so bad to the point of a potato chip bag crinkle can may you instantly enraged, but I am on day 3 and the cravings are going away slowly. I still want it, but I want the surgery more. So if you can get past the first 72-96 hours your good as gold. I have 10 days till surgery and am excited, nervous and awaiting the new me. You can do it. If I can anyone can.

Surgery Day!!! :)

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Surgery day for me also.....yeaaaaa

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I have pseudo tumor cerbri also and also take Topamax, I was never told to abstain from artificial sweeteners

http://www.wnho.net/pseudotumor_cerebri.htm

My neuro opthamologist bans all artificial sugars. I see her through the research eye clinic at UW Madison.

I see Dr.Mudambi he is a Neuro Opthamologist in Seattle. I guess every Dr. gives a little diffrent advice and precautions. But good luck on your surgery. 2/23/16 is my day also

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