My Dr. Says If I Gain 1 More Pound I Will Be Given An Extra Month Visit But....

[SuperFab 689]

U make some truly valid points as well...I hate that people think u only get fat from over eating. I actually hate to eat but when I do eat, I like it to be good so that's when I do the wrong things...I would get exactly what I want regardless of nutritional value and that would be around 10 at night when I finally get home..and never drank Water at all..all a recipe for disaster..I'm so ready for change..

Sounds so much like me. But I would skip meals and then when I was hungry I'd over eat. It was usually me eating food that wasn't nutritious and late at night where there was no way of working those calories off.

April

[Butterthebean 8,146]

I can't speak for others but I feel like because my hypothyroidism was diagnosed as such and is now being treated, I can now get the surgery. Before being diagnosed and treated I was dragging through the day, I could barely keep my eyes open. I couldn't function and because of that I wasn't able to hold down a job.

Now that I am on medication for my thyroid condition I am actually able to function during the day, I can stay up without falling asleep and I finally know what hunger pangs are. Now I feel like I need the surgery to kind of in a way 'undue' the damage a thyroid condition caused me for several years. I hope that answers your question and with all that said, do you think WLS can help someone like me?

Also, my surgeon requires that any metabolic condition be under control before getting the surgery. Mine is.

That makes perfect sense to me. If the condition is controlled but the obesity does not correct itself, then absolutely I think the surgery is beneficial. Thanks for taking the time to answer.

[Cabingirl 55]

April,

It sounds like you've got a good NUT and a good head on your shoulders- with some good advice on things to eat/drink depending on your mood. Getting this right now will definitely make it will make your new life so much easier and happier.

I always struggled with regularly scheduled meals (along with portions and choices:), and I have to work hard every to be sure I get the good stuff in at the right. You've lost 10 lbs and that is awesome.

[marfar7 1,533]

Big portions were my main issue. The sleeve is for the weight loss and family history of diabetes and heart disease. From what I was told, my hunger hormone will be cut out and it should allow me to have smaller portions. To me smaller portions is what's "normal", I won't feel malnourished because I will only feed my new stomach only what's needed vs with my larger stomach being sometimes overfilled with bad food.

Plus doc says with the weight loss, we may also overturn my infertility issues. Been trying 15 years after my one and only was born...I believe this surgery will have many benefits on my behalf. And my selfish answer beyond my personal health benefits, I want to make my uncle eat his words he said to me at 17.." you're too pretty to be so fat" maybe now he will want to treat me like my other cousins but either way...he will still be irrelevant to me!! I do have my reasons!!!

Hate to break it to u but not everyone loses the hunger hormone. Some do. many don't. I got my hunger (true hunger, not acid like some day) on day 10. I'm hungry more often now than I was before, cuz I'm only able to eat a very small amt. I'm usually hungry again 2 hrs later. Ur gunna have to start eating more often than 2x a day otherwise ull literally starve.

Just wanted to warn u that u may not lose the Ghrelin. About 25% of Ghrelin (the hunger hormone they cut outa ur stomach) is made in the pancreas. My dr said it's perfectly normal to be either hungry or not. I'm bummed I'm in the hungry category...

Good luck!

[2muchfun 8,928]

Re. Overeating or small meals...call it whatever you want...if you consume more calories than you burn...your body will store the excess as fat. My. $.02.

[EarthyGoalie 253]

Hate to break it to u but not everyone loses the hunger hormone. Some do. many don't. I got my hunger (true hunger, not acid like some day) on day 10. I'm hungry more often now than I was before, cuz I'm only able to eat a very small amt. I'm usually hungry again 2 hrs later. Ur gunna have to start eating more often than 2x a day otherwise ull literally starve.

Just wanted to warn u that u may not lose the Ghrelin. About 25% of Ghrelin (the hunger hormone they cut outa ur stomach) is made in the pancreas. My dr said it's perfectly normal to be either hungry or not. I'm bummed I'm in the hungry category...

Good luck!

Yuuuuuup. *(Raising my hand)*

I definitely fall under the hungry category. I got my real hunger back on day 5 after surgery. And I mean real hunger. I've been hungry ever since, very very often. Thankfully though the hunger goes away after a few small bites of something...

[LipstickLady 25,682]

. .your instincts and your choices are going to get you where you want to be, not the NUT.

There was so much wrong with this post I seriously wanted to pass out. I'll just say this...

Her choices and instincts got her to where she is now. Are they really going to get her where she wants to be without professional help?

[SuperFab 689]

April, It sounds like you've got a good NUT and a good head on your shoulders- with some good advice on things to eat/drink depending on your mood. Getting this right now will definitely make it will make your new life so much easier and happier. I always struggled with regularly scheduled meals (along with portions and choices:), and I have to work hard every to be sure I get the good stuff in at the right. You've lost 10 lbs and that is awesome.

thank you!!!!!

[SuperFab 689]

April, It sounds like you've got a good NUT and a good head on your shoulders- with some good advice on things to eat/drink depending on your mood. Getting this right now will definitely make it will make your new life so much easier and happier. I always struggled with regularly scheduled meals (along with portions and choices:), and I have to work hard every to be sure I get the good stuff in at the right. You've lost 10 lbs and that is awesome.

thank you!!!!!

[LipstickLady 25,682]

I got fat from not eating properly and from pigging out. I'm responsible for every pound gained over the years.

Yup. I've got nothing to blame but me.

[clk 3,519]

I totally agree with you on this point because I it's clear the OP was not forthcoming initially about what she was eating. And ......whatever the cause.....we are ALL overweight because we ate too much of the wrong kinds of food for our body. Doesn't mean you shoveled in food like a dump truck. But you ate more than your body could process. If you ate a healthy amount or even less, and your body still stored it all as fat due to some metabolic condition, then why have WLS? It will not help. It only reduces your intake. Why not address the real problem? And I don't think doctors are gods, but I do know that you are not capable of diagnosing the OP from here.

I agree with this - and mostly with the idea that too much for me might be just right for someone else.

Metabolic testing is what led me to surgery. Learning that I could expect to lose nearly one pound per month on a 1,200 calorie diet unless I drastically increased my exercise levels pointed me towards surgery as a forever option to keep the weight under control.

I don't deny (heh) that there's some level of denial about our habits for most everyone. I thought I was eating even less than I was - but I was not regularly eating as much as doctors, nutritionists and BMR calculators told me I could eat without gaining. I had to eat less and even now I eat less than you'd think my activity level would allow. I was also in denial about how and why I was eating.

But it's truly a peeve to see people step in and claim people are delusional or outright lying about food. Why? Because I had more than one doctor and more than one nutritionist insist that I was eating more than I was recording. I didn't just give up on dieting and opt for surgery after one go. I tried to adhere to strict diets for years with minimal results. I was constantly chastised for not "coming clean" about what I was eating in my food journal. Excuse me? I'm the woman that took the time to work up the nutritional data for six measly M&Ms so I could account for the calories! I wasn't cheating or forgetting or sitting in denial about my habits. I simply couldn't lose on the same number of calories other people could lose on.

To take it a step further, this whole idea feeds into that "if you're not losing, you're not trying hard enough" or that there's a one size approach to losing weight.

THERE IS NOT.

I'm sorry, it's too individual for that. I can eat and easily maintain on things that would make someone else pack on pounds. And other people need far more calories than I eat.

Pointing fingers and casting accusations makes me think of the never obese and totally judgmental people that worked incredibly hard to crush my self esteem while I was genuinely trying to better myself. I'm all for ideas both positive and negative being shared, and I don't want to say people shouldn't share their feelings or opinions.

But geez, think about it before you paint everyone with the same brush. I know damn well I starved myself for months on end without seeing weight loss, and anyone that tries to tell me I'm delusional or remembering it wrong should have spent a little time with me back then, when I would have clawed someone's face off in response because the lack of food made me more than a little testy!

~Cheri

This isn't precisely in response to the OP but rather to the comments generated here that are also carrying over into other posts as criticisms.

[No game 14,437]

Cheri,

Thank you for spelling out the last part for those of us that weren't bright enough to get it...

[clk 3,519]

Cheri,

Thank you for spelling out the last part for those of us that weren't bright enough to get it...

Don't be mean, Laura.

You actually read all the way to the end? You're solo, girl. Gold star!

~Cheri

[No game 14,437]

I skimmed

[gamergirl 4,610]

Don't be mean, Laura. You actually read all the way to the end? You're solo, girl. Gold star! ~Cheri

I enjoy your posts and don't consider them long. That may have something to do with how I write? Maybe?

I can relate to all of what you said. I wasn't eating too much. I was eating too much of the wrong things. Understanding that subtle but vital difference has made, well all the difference. And it drove me crazy too when people thought there was no way I could weigh what I did given what I "said I ate". Their quote marks, not mine. Infuriated and frustrated me.

Like you. I too lose "only" 6 lbs a month which is 1.5/week even after being sleeved. And no I am not cheating. But we all got fat different ways and will get thin in slightly different ways. I went through the same experience as the OP in terms of putting on weight from starting to eat after starving myself. It can and does happen.

And I have NO idea what my original point was now so I will go for a walk instead..........