Hi everyone,

I'm on day three of the liver reduction diet and the shakes are killing me. They are horrible!!!! Its getting harder and harder to choke them down. My doc says it must be whey isolate and less than three grams of sugar, preferably one gram. Help:( I'm afraid this is going to be a deal breaker

I have discovered the quest bars... They are pretty good if heated for 10 seconds.. A little on the sweet side but tolerable but I can only eat about half at a time or I dump!

I discovered them also GNC had them buy 2 get one free and the guy told me which ones were the best. funny on the eating only half me too but not because I dump just can't eat whole bar.

Yeah I can't eat more than half either but sat night we went out to a club with friends and I was eating one... I guess because I was talking I didn't realize I ate 3/4 of a bar and about 10 min later I was dumping... It was awful

Is the staying away from caffiene temporary or permanent? They told me caffeine bothers the pouch. If I can't have my diet coke I really have to have my ice tea!

Is the staying away from caffiene temporary or permanent? They told me caffeine bothers the pouch. If I can't have my diet coke I really have to have my ice tea!

My nut said never

My doctor says no caffine, unfortunately ice tea also has caffine so decaf only in both. Now about the cola products whether diet or regular these also contain caffine but there is another reason why you cannot have it. What happens when you shake pop and then open it? It sorta fizzes out because the carbonation has to have room to expand. The same thing can happen in your pouch, it can cause the pouch to expand. The caffine causes ulcers. So if you are having this surgery to get healthy I would suggest to rethink your addictions as you may end up in even worse shape than being overweight.

I get that but what I dont get is, why my doctors office says coffee (not decaf) is ok. If you can have a cup of coffee why can't you have a glass of tea? I'd think there is more cafeine in the coffee

I get that but what I dont get is, why my doctors office says coffee (not decaf) is ok. If you can have a cup of coffee why can't you have a glass of tea? I'd think there is more cafeine in the coffee

"Caffeine is a diuretic, which means it makes you urinate. So if you're trying to hydrate, drinking regular coffee or tea is not the best choice. Caffeine can also hurt your stomach pouch if you drink it in large amounts, so cut back on caffeine or, if you can, eliminate it entirely." taken from Weightloss Surgery for Dummies. If you stop, maybe at one, then you might be okay. But that "one" can be an issue, one didn't hurt me so I'll have another, etc. etc. Of course it is your choice, its your body.

Is the staying away from caffiene temporary or permanent? They told me caffeine bothers the pouch. If I can't have my diet coke I really have to have my ice tea!

some brands of tea has more caffeine in it than coffee but I have found that lipton decaf has a really good flavor. and if you drink a decaf drink whether it be coffee or tea you still get a small amount of caffeine still. oldone made a good point it is your body and if you chose to drink a soda they did (and hopefully still do) have a decaf brand of coke but I am not sure how it taste or even if they still make it. when I did drink coke it had to be the real thing ha ha or what was the point in drinking it. Now it is decaf coffee, decaf tea and crystal light flavor packets when I want something other than water.

For my pre-op I was fortunate that the nutritionist on my team had lots of samples we could purchase - and there was a whole protocol where I just bought 2 weeks worth of Robard meals from her. But my husband and I have drank Protein shakes for years - mostly Matrix. However - now that I am a few days post-op I find that I really like the Bariatric Advantage ones because they are so low volume.

Does your nutritionist have access to some samples for you to try at low cost?

My Nut suggested Sugar Free Carnation Instant Breakfast, made with skim milk for extra protein. This has none of the fake shake flavor or texture. She said this would be a fine option instead of the why protein shake.

Go to Publix and in the ice cream freezer there is this sugar free ice cream called "Luke's... something. It is all chemicals but if you let it melt to a thick liquid, you can mix it with the protein shake with ice and a teaspoon of 2% milk. Put in a "Bullet" mixer and it is way better. I can drink them and even when it comes down to no more ice crystals, you can finish it. It is a matter of replacing the water with something that taste better.

Just weighed in today @ the Dr. and according to THEIR records, I started at 312 on surgery day (Aug. 14th). Today I weighed in at 262 lbs. Never dumped. Only had two issues with over eating by a tablespoon. Finger down the throat and feeling great again.

Eating 1,250 calories a day. Loosing 3 to 5 lbs per week. Treadmill every other day... walking.

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