Okay, so, since I've been frequenting this virtual bariatric world, there appear to be a few issues which seem to ignite much debate and throw the most meekly devised threads into huge ego-centric 'flaming' exercises.

Not only do I, personally, find this predictably boring; it is also deeply unhelpful. We all know that this process changes or should change, how we do and view things to do with food and wider health issues, forever. As such, it takes a bit of getting used to.

The prospect of having to adapt our long-held behaviours is scary and our little food related rituals? They are tough bleedin' Cookies to break. (My apologies for mentioning the 'C' word there)

Consequently, I'm a big believer in the adage that 'skeletons in the cupboard' are no longer 'skeletons', if they are dragged out into the light of day. (Normally kicking and screaming with the neighbours looking on in horror)

So, roll-up, roll-up. Consider this an online bariatric confessional!

There'll be no 'Hail Mary's' or 'Our Fathers' and flagellation will NOT and should not be forthcoming.

I want you to tell us your 'dirty' little bariatric secrets.

What did you do? Why did you do it? (and I will refrain from asking 'with whom?' you did it!) How did it make you feel afterwards? Did you resolve to never do it again - or indeed, did you think that actually, everything in moderation is not so bad after all?

Did you chow down on that hot-sauce laden and cheese encrusted beef taco 2 days post op? (No one can tell I'm fantasizing about anything that does not constitute a 'fluid' much, can you?!!!) Did you sneak into the fridge and eat all your kids chocolate bars, happy in the knowledge that your Protein Pump Inhibitors would prevent you from getting indigestion? Did you swallow 10 vodka martini's to see if your pouch and your legs could take it?

Come on, tell Aunty Revs and lets see if we can put these beasts to bed once and for all x

As is only fair, I shall go first.. Tonight, I, 8 days post surgery, ate a fair amount of cheese frosting off the top of a red velvet cupcake (and maybe a couple of mouthfuls of the sponge, too). Why? Because it was there. Did it make any sense? No, because I have never craved sweet stuff. I'm a savoury kind of girl. What did I learn from it? That damn, I'm an emotional eater (which I never thought I was) and that shockingly, that **** went down a little bit too easily. Consequently, I learnt in that way lies grave danger...

See, if I can do it, anyone can. So, step forward and lets hear the 'worst' you've got. Everyone is welcome and all are equal here x

Try reading the Enabling thread. It gives one a better insite on the views of OUR vets and there comments. I read all 6 pages last night and loved it. Even cryd as somethings made me answer questions about myself. Might help?

It's life. Outside and inside the forum' date=' we have to make choices. I see a lot of pointing the finger at anything and everything but one's self. Addiction, enabling, him, her, anything! Bottom line is most of us are adults with a functioning brain. I LOVE cheetos but I can't blame the store for selling them or Sally for talking about them when I have a cheeto binge. We have to take responsibility if anything is going to be achieved. I'm not saying this with any ill intent, I want everyone to be successful.[/quote']

May I ask why you what you feel its finger pointing? I notice these conversations bug you.

(I'm thinking of gamer girls thread about enabling) By the way I like Cheetos too and do not blame the store or makers of them for my fat.

I am (was) fat because I ate like a pig and did not exercise any kind of control over it.

I have worked hard to take the power away from food. There is no good or bad, there is no cheating versus dieting. That was my old and unsucccessful way of thinking.

For me there are just 100s of times a day that I get to choose to eat for health or eat for some other reason.

I sometimes choose to consume for some other reason... But dont feel the need to confess or ask for absolution. This is just life now... Eat too much, eat things that trigger me, too many times and I will regain. Follow my eating plan and I maintain. Doesnt make me bad or good... It is simply factual.

I have a confession. I'm semi grossed out, semi ashamed and semi impressed with myself.

Today I ate an...

I have a confession. I'm semi grossed out' date=' semi ashamed and semi impressed with myself. Today I ate an...[/quote']

Ostrim??

I love the ostrim sticks!

Ostrim??

I love the ostrim sticks!

Yes. I bought a box about 6 weeks ago and I've not been able to bring myself to eat them.

Today I ate one.

It was good and i was fine eating it unless I thought about it. When I thought about it, I gagged. It's the perfect snack with great stats but it's freaking ostrich!

Lol, well you know I have a gut of steel so I can take down most anything without getting ill..

What's even funnier is I never not once felt sorry for those damn ostriches because they taste mighty fine

Edited November 6, 201312 yr by laura-ven

Teriyaki is my fav. Tastes like a slim Jim meat stick.

Edited November 6, 201312 yr by laura-ven

Lol, well you know I have a gut of steel so I can take down most anything without getting ill..

What's even funnier is I never not once felt sorry for those damn ostriches because they taste mighty fine

They taste fine?

I guess what bothers me is that these kinds of posts are being perceived as enabling. Once the actual surgery is over what are our main concerns? Food and fitness. Life after the sleeve, right? Maybe I'm not on the site as much as others, but what I have not seen is people telling others to continue with destructive behavior. How is it enabling?

I see it as getting it off your chest and moving on. Let's move on together. How do we move on? It's all a learning experience.

They taste fine?

See the evil eyes on those things just make me like it more

I guess what bothers me is that these kinds of posts are being perceived as enabling. Once the actual surgery is over what are our main concerns? Food and fitness. Life after the sleeve, right? Maybe I'm not on the site as much as others, but what I have not seen is people telling others to continue with destructive behavior. How is it enabling?

I see it as getting it off your chest and moving on. Let's move on together. How do we move on? It's all a learning experience.

I'm with you on most of it. But I think the point that many are trying to make here was that there was a LOT of back slapping and grinning over things like eating until you were sick, overindulging (I mean, not a slip, but a full on binge) and just plain justifying of bad choices.

I agree about personal responsibility and also remembering that life still involves food - not just diet food, but ya know, "BAD" food, too.

Meh. I'm unfollowing this one, though. You're either on one side of it or the other and there's no compromise between the two.

~Cheri

And hello, those ostriches are CREEPY! Sadly (um, I don't think I mean that) ostrim is a forbidden food. Ostrich isn't kosher and while I don't keep strictly kosher for the hubs anymore, we don't bring absolutely unkosher things in. I think it's silly, it makes him feel better, though.

And if he relaxed that rule we compromised on, I'd bring in a three pound package of bacon to celebrate, not a stick of ostrich meat.

~Cheri

I guess what bothers me is that these kinds of posts are being perceived as enabling. Once the actual surgery is over what are our main concerns? Food and fitness. Life after the sleeve, right? Maybe I'm not on the site as much as others, but what I have not seen is people telling others to continue with destructive behavior. How is it enabling?

I see it as getting it off your chest and moving on. Let's move on together. How do we move on? It's all a learning experience.

I in no way feel like all of these posts on this particular thread are enabling.. Just need to get that out there.

I do see some worrying posts though intermixed (as I have read the whole thing) some are sad. And some are scary to me. Yes this is my journey.

I am only responsible for myself, but I do care.

And do want to see the best for everyone here.

So I speak.

****unsubscribing too****