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Success Diet for Bandsters!!

I have been reading on YahooBandsters & came across this diet that a Dr. tells all his patients to follow & apparently he has a very good success rate. I thought it was interesting.

Dr. Foxkin's High Protein Diet for Gastric Banding patients.

It is based on a baseball diamond working together.

Home plate- is getting banded and then working on getting proper adjustment.

First Base- Use an appetite suppressant to relieve hunger and carbohydrate cravings. Use Phentermine or Phendimetrazine. For a month worth it was $23 self-pay.

Second Base - It is a high protein/almost no carb diet. He describes it as Atkins minus the salads. He recommends patients stay on the diet until they reach goal weight, which usually takes only 9-12 months. No milk, avoid fruits, veggies, and grains. Be careful of hidden carbs in sauces or breaded products.

(Anyone who is commited to a high protein diet has to follow these rules to the letter. It takes 2 to 3 days for the body to switch to fat burning. Consume a lil' carbs and you are back to a glucose burning metabolism and can lose the effect of the 2 or 3 days of fat burning. If you eat good during the week and eat normal on weekends say bye-bye to the drastic results. You can use something like Keto-stics to make sure ketones are present in your urine.)

Third Base -Exercise intervention on a daily basis. They recommend Curves, Curves look-alikes, or anything aerobic done for at least 30 minutes per day. No matter what level you are at it is important to just start moving even seated exercise videos can be a great place to start.

Using all the above together the next step is Home plate!

Home plate - Is reaching your goal. He considers a Home Run getting to a size 9 or smaller for women. (He is known for liking his patients very skinny. He wanted me to shoot for a size 6 but I haven't been that since third grade. I was very happy at a 10/12 when I lost to goal before but we agreed I'd shoot for a size 9. Hell I'd love to get to a 9 or smaller but I don't want to set myself up for disappointment.)

He says most patients will lose at least 15 lbs a month with the band adjusted right and following the Foxkin plan. He says even non-bandsters have good luck with it.

He also recommends maintaining adequate protein, Vitamin and mineral levels for optimum weight loss

-90 or 120 grams protein supplement (unless your doctor thinks you need more)

-Vitamin and mineral supplement like the pink bottle from Vita4Life. Although he thought the GNC orange liquid multi-vitamin and mineral supplement (I think I'm going to use the orange Centrum chewables next)

-Calcium Citrate 3500-4500mg

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"MY" Dr doesn't want me to take any fat burning weight loss pills etc.

He says I need to change my habits not fall back into snacking and pill taking to lose weight.

Sounds just like what I did on Adkins for 2 years. I got close to goal weight (also using the phentermine) and then as soon as I started trying to eat "healthy" introducing good carbs back into my diet, I gained it back because my body was starving for things like milk.

I just can't do another "diet" like that anymore. I'm sticking to organic/whole foods but I still do watch for foods that don't have sugar in them. That's about as close to that doc's diet as I could get.

ALTHOUGH, I wish I could get the script for the Phentermine again. My house was never so clean!! ;)

Thanks for sharing Diane!

:) Kristin

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My mom did a doctor supervised all Protein, no veges and no fruit diet for 9 weeks and her heart stopped 5 times.

Thank GOD she is now alright and about to be banded on June 26th! I'm about to be banded as well on July5th

so BE CAREFUL with diets and listen to your body!

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Hey All,

I tried to get a hold of the girl who posted this on the other site & she hasn't been back in awhile. I wanted to see how she was doing on this diet & if she & others really stick to it. I agree that it seems very much like Atkins & I personally couldn't handle the Atkins diet. I'm wondering if the people wo follow this diet actually KEEP the weight off once they lose it.

You know, at goal -- if I'm lucky -- my leg will fit in a size 9.

And there's some misinformation in his message regarding ketosis, etc.

It's simply not safe to avoid carbs. Protein, when that's all you're getting, is toxic to the body. On Atkins I ate 20 carbs per day or fewer, for an entire year, and even that 20 was pushing it... I HAD to get the Water in to help flush things through, or deal with the consequences.

Appetite supressants? Not supplements? I don't know anyone who could survive on a protein-only diet, without supplements, and make it beyond a few weeks. Take away the potassium for a week or so and your muscles are going to start rebelling big time.

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NJGirl - you are good!! That was fast. :lol:

I read through the web-site & was surprised that it was EXACTLY how the girl described it. I thought for sure she may have exaggerated a little on the no fruits & veggies. But.....wow, it says on there specificially to not eat any grains, veggies & fruits.

i don't think it's crazy at all. the thing we know about the band is that it takes quite a bit of effort to lose even with the tool and that it is almost easy to maintain weightloss with it. so if you can get to goal weight (by hook or by crook as in this diet) you can probably maintain the weightloss with eating sensibly. and this sensible eating will seem like a treat after an all meat diet for 9 months. i did atkins for 2 years and i would have been in the shade if only i hadn't gained ALL the weight back. lol. but my blood work was normal, no deficiencies after that period which is longer than what dr fox recommends. so yes, those months may be unpleasant but his results are impressive. 72% ewl after 5 years is veeeery good. i think i may try the plan!

I have thought about taking an appetite suppressant, but I have no clue what I can take with High Blood Pressure. Would not mind trying the diet, but would need some info on what I can take. Any suggestions?

This sounds like an extreme version of Atkins. I lost 50 pounds in 18 months on Atkins and then started eating more low glycemic index carbs and gained 40 of that back. I don't believe anything that is that unbalanced is healthy, and I personally wouldn't do it. That's the reason I went through this surgery...so I could eat small portions of healthy foods in a balanced diet.

When I was doing Atkins, I did take chromium picolinate to help with the cravings, and I will probably go back to that soon...it's in a capsule so I can open and empty into a spoonful of applesauce or something.

Emily

"i don't think it's crazy at all. the thing we know about the band is that it takes quite a bit of effort to lose even with the tool and that it is almost easy to maintain weightloss with it. so if you can get to goal weight (by hook or by crook as in this diet) you can probably maintain the weightloss with eating sensibly. and this sensible eating will seem like a treat after an all meat diet for 9 months. i did atkins for 2 years and i would have been in the shade if only i hadn't gained ALL the weight back. lol. but my blood work was normal, no deficiencies after that period which is longer than what dr fox recommends. so yes, those months may be unpleasant but his results are impressive. 72% ewl after 5 years is veeeery good. i think i may try the plan!"

I think I will try too, liquid diet did not work before either, but this time I have kept it off. So until complete restriction I will try anything within reason and then rely on the band to keep it off. That was one of the main reasons I got the band. I knew that I could lose the weight, I have, like everyone else, 3-4 times, but the problem is keeping it off...So I will try this to lose and once I get restriction introduce other carbs. We'll see!

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If you try it, let us know how it works!! I definately think it is hard to gain weight with the band & if this diet gets the weight off - then maybe we got it home free. I can hardly eat any meat without PBing. I'd like to know just exatly what you DO eat on this diet.

Anyone out there actually tried this? Share your food list! :confused:

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