She's gonna be right there with Glenn Beck who admits he's just entertainment - not a real news reporter or legitimate commentator. It'll be nice to know where she is instead of worrying that she's out shooting some beautiful beast in the wildes of Alaska. Or shooting her mouth off when she should be working, like she was supposed to when she was Governor. Now we know where she's shooting her mouth off and we can laugh at her like we do Glenn Beck and the other mindless tools at Fox.

PG, prove it wrong. Not once have you address the fact of your arrogance. Proves to me that you do recognize a problem with your attitude towards others. If the shoes fit wear them. Without addressing issues with yourself, in which maybe, just maybe, you have bitten off more than you should chew by saying you speak for God, you must apparently accept those descriptions knowingly. No one but you has called or implied superiority to anyone who doesn't think like you.

patty I don't think you really want to get into this kind of contest. First, it solves nothing and second, you lose.

what are you talking about?

You're getting into a contest, ninny ninnie nah nah, about who called the other person the most bad names. I don't think you should get people riled up enough that they go back through your posts and bring all the examples to light. It's just not prudent.

She constantly brings up how the republicans or conservatives are 'dangerous' and 'evil' or 'ignorant', and she uses the protests of a few to generalize the majority of them. This can be said of the democrats and their protests as well. For every one name caller in a protest group, there are thousands and thousands who are not name calling. She needs to get over it. This is what happens at protests everywhere. On her side and on mine.

Ok, then why don't you set the example and stop doing it yourself?

You missed the whole point PG. I have never specifically called Rethugs ignorant, evil or stupid. I have called you arrogant, ignorant beyond yourself, and never called you evil. I called you arrogant because of you superior attitude and ignorant of the plight and inequality of others. Give me a thread where I have called anyone else anything else.

Palin is a given.

OK, let's get back to the debate at hand, or even maybe to the thread subject. But leave the name calling, regardless of sides, or parties or belief out of it, it is against the LBT rules.

This is a site to discuss bariatric surgery - hello??? Let's keep political issues where they belong...in the garbage!!! I don't appreciate this topic taking so much valuable space!!!

This is a site to discuss bariatric surgery - hello??? Let's keep political issues where they belong...in the garbage!!! I don't appreciate this topic taking so much valuable space!!!

This is the rants and raves area of Lap Band talk. It is here specifically for talking off the Lap band subject. If you want to talk about your band, go to the threads that talk about it.

Gramma-O, I appreciate how you feel. I am not sure how you come to this thread, but it is located in an area of this site, called Rants and Raves. In this area you will find a wide variety of subjects covered, and very few band related.

When you come here, you develop relationships and friendships, and find things in common as well as differing opinions with those you communicate with so frequently---and when it was found threads were veering way off subject, this area was added, so they could be discussed, and debated. There will be stronger language and stronger feelings on subjects in here.

It is totally possible to spend hours a day on the site and not enter into the Rants and Raves or the powder Room (personal subjects, also not always band related) areas.

Many of us are very involved in our politics, as it affects our lives, and we choose to discuss them. No matter how much room we take up here, there is plenty left in the General Support areas of the site.

Under thread tools you will find a way to unsubscribe yourself from this thread if you choose to.

Good Luck with your band.

I only visit "new posts" and it was in this category. I still feel this site should stick to ONLY bariatric issues. I can go anyplace else for the other garbage!

Did you read kat's post, gramma-o? Lap Band Talk gives people a forum to discuss lots of things that we're bothered about or happy about. The thing that we all have in common is the lap band. But that is not the only thing on our minds.

We understand that you're uncomfortable with the Rants & Raves threads at LBT, but it fills a need for those of us who do enjoy it. Rather than taking it away from us, why don't you just confine yourself to the threads and topics that you enjoy?

P.S. We do not consider debating issues "garbage." We consider these issues life in the United States. Sure you can ignore them and call them garbage, but they won't go away no matter how much you'd like them to.

gramma-O I wondered if perhaps you came here from New Posts. I will say in defense of the thread tho, that there is no way with the title that it could be confused with a lap band support thread. The title is self explanatory.

Just as it takes all kinds of people in this world---we have all kinds here on LBT too. If you enjoy the rest of the site, then I would simply suggest, watching what a title reads, and where it is located prior to opening to read it.

I am not personally aware of any other lap band site that does not also have open areas where members discuss any topic of their choice. I do know of other sites, but they are set up, much as this is, and include areas just like this. I hope you find a site to suit you.