:w00t:

We are now socialist, one step away from communism, the red menace.

I wish Mr. Bush could have run again, he would have wiped the floor with that Osama.

Look at this economy, it was never this bad under Mr. Bush

Spend, Spend, Spend, Who's got the money? Aww, it's alright we'll make more

The process sometimes results in embryos being discarded. a doctor will transfer embryos to the woman's uterus with the hope that at least one will implant. The ones that don't implant die. (aborted) There are situations in which multiple embryos will survive and grow. At that point the couple will have to decide whether to abort or carry multiple children. Some choose to abort all but the amount they want. This would be wrong. So, if ANY fetus' are killed (or frozen) in the process, it is wrong, IMO.

God set up a plan for male and female to marry and start a family together. I tend to think that if that couple can't bare children of their own, then they should be childless until God opens her womb. If he doesn't, then it is because he intended her to be childless. Or he intended her to adopt orphans. To God, every human being is loved the same by Him, therefore, if he intends for you to raise a child of your own, you will, and if he intends for you to to be barren, then you may take in orphans. This is just my view. I don't know how God would feel about invitro fertilization. Because the woman is married to her husband, yet using the sperm of another man. She isn't committing adultry, so He may not object. But the man who poured out his sperm to donate it had to masturbate, and I am not sure if that is sinful to God or not. Some say it is only if your thoughts are sinful while you do it, and some say it is not a sin. So, I can't answer that. At least IVF is making life and not ending it, like abortion does.

Seriously! Are you kidding? Now you are against Masterbation too!!!!??????

Perhaps GOD intended masterbation to take the 'edge' of sexual tentions so that there would be less rape.... thereby negating the need for an abortion later????

Hummm, birth control????

Do you feel 'organ' donations to be wrong??? You are implanting something foreign into anothers body????

Seriously! Are you kidding? Now you are against Masterbation too!!!!??????

Perhaps GOD intended masterbation to take the 'edge' of sexual tentions so that there would be less rape.... thereby negating the need for an abortion later????

Hummm, birth control????

Do you feel 'organ' donations to be wrong??? You are implanting something foreign into anothers body????

I didn't say that I was against masturbation. Read it again. I said, and I quote: "I am not sure if that is sinful to God or not. Some say it is only if your thoughts are sinful while you do it, and some say it is not a sin. So, I can't answer that."

I feel organ donations are a good thing. They save lives. I believe that God gave doctors the knowledge and the wisdom to use others organs to save the lives of those who need them.

When you need to 'sin' in order to achieve your final goal, then what you are doing is wrong.

WOW! "Spend Spend Spend"? More like "Borrow Borrow Borrow" ha ha...when has the US ever done anything different? Its nothing new.

Actually, it is new. Obama has spent more money than any other president to date. We've never had this kind of frivilous spending to the point of bankrupting the country. It's almost as if that's his goal.

WOW! "Spend Spend Spend"? More like "Borrow Borrow Borrow" ha ha...when has the US ever done anything different? Its nothing new.

Actually, it is new. Obama has spent more money than any other president to date. We've never had this kind of frivilous spending to the point of bankrupting the country. It's almost as if that's his goal.

Yes, I heard he is putting the country up for sale to the highest bidder. Get ready to learn Chinese.

Didn't you hear him run on bankrupting this country when he was a candidate? Oh, wait, that wasn't him. How stupid of me (the sound you hear is me smacking my forehead)!! That was bush who turned a surplus into a deficit and drove this country into bankruptcy, and a near depression with all his unnecessary spending and tax cuts that didn't do one thing for this country. NOT ONE THING.

At least Pres. Obama's spending is getting us out of the bush recession. I am so glad he's at the helm.

Well, here will follow PG's cut and paste about Obama's spending and then I will follow with how much of it is to pay for bush's programs. etc..etc..etc... Yawn.

Yes, I heard he is putting the country up for sale to the highest bidder. Get ready to learn Chinese.

Didn't you hear him run on bankrupting this country when he was a candidate? Oh, wait, that wasn't him. How stupid of me (the sound you hear is me smacking my forehead)!! That was bush who turned a surplus into a deficit and drove this country into bankruptcy, and a near depression with all his unnecessary spending and tax cuts that didn't do one thing for this country. NOT ONE THING.

At least Pres. Obama's spending is getting us out of the bush recession. I am so glad he's at the helm.

Well, here will follow PG's cut and paste about Obama's spending and then I will follow with how much of it is to pay for bush's programs. etc..etc..etc... Yawn.

You have a nerve to say anything about me cutting and pasting, especially when YOU are the cut and paste QUEEN!!!!!

You have a nerve to say anything about me cutting and pasting, especially when YOU are the cut and paste QUEEN!!!!!

At least my posts are facts and not some opinion of some bloated windbag on the right predicting gloom and doom around every corner.

their 'facts' in your opinion!

Actually, it is new. Obama has spent more money than any other president to date. We've never had this kind of frivilous spending to the point of bankrupting the country. It's almost as if that's his goal.

Ok seriously...our country hasn't been paying its debts. We borrow more than we make, and spend more than we have. I'm pretty sure we're already "bankrupt" and it has nothing to do with Obama.

Talk about Brain Dead flat-liner Tea Bagger Republicans...whatabout MS Governor Haley Barbour? He wants NO temporary stoppage of deep oil drilling in the Gulf cause the crew and rigs may go elsewhere to drill and the area might loose jobs! The entire Gulf and the sea life and water fowl are all going to be killed off and this idiot still wants to keep drilling while the oil is still gushing. Even Palin has shut her dumb ass mouth and has`nt said Drill Baby Drill in months. Where do we get these wacko`s? Must be that "Old Time Religion"!

I didn't say that I was against masturbation. Read it again. I said, and I quote: "I am not sure if that is sinful to God or not. Some say it is only if your thoughts are sinful while you do it, and some say it is not a sin. So, I can't answer that."

I feel organ donations are a good thing. They save lives. I believe that God gave doctors the knowledge and the wisdom to use others organs to save the lives of those who need them.

When you need to 'sin' in order to achieve your final goal, then what you are doing is wrong.

Im an organ donor and thats all I thought about when getting my band. I was hoping the drs. didnt do a Murtha on me to save some politicians life!

Yes, I heard he is putting the country up for sale to the highest bidder. Get ready to learn Chinese.

Didn't you hear him run on bankrupting this country when he was a candidate? Oh, wait, that wasn't him. How stupid of me (the sound you hear is me smacking my forehead)!! That was bush who turned a surplus into a deficit and drove this country into bankruptcy, and a near depression with all his unnecessary spending and tax cuts that didn't do one thing for this country. NOT ONE THING.

At least Pres. Obama's spending is getting us out of the bush recession. I am so glad he's at the helm.

Well, here will follow PG's cut and paste about Obama's spending and then I will follow with how much of it is to pay for bush's programs. etc..etc..etc...:devil_smile: Yawn.

I was watching Fox News the other day and there was a rep strategist on. He said "sure the economy is recovering but at a snells pace"! Before it wasnt happening, now its happening but to slow! I also listened to Hannity's radio show the other day and he was mad because Obama put a freeze on deep sea drilling. He said Obama is putting people out of work(it has nothing to do with the evnironment being ruined). Then he's mad because he's(Obama) not doing enough about the oil leak! Hannity was mad because we wont drill in Alaska. The guest he had on said it was all about politics with Obama. Damned if he does, Damned if he doesnt!

File this under my third mantra: "And these are who some people want to elect more of?" :devil_smile:

BP's Spill Fund a $20 Billion Shakedown, Barton Says (Update2)

Wednesday, June 16, 2010

©2010 Bloomberg News

June 17 (Bloomberg) - Representative Joe Barton, a Texas Republican, said a fund BP Plc agreed to establish after meeting with President Barack Obama yesterday amounted to "a $20 billion shakedown."

"I'm ashamed of what happened in the White House," Barton said today as a House Energy Committee panel began a hearing on BP's Gulf of Mexico oil spill. The Obama administration called Barton's comments "shameful."

The London-based oil company agreed yesterday to Obama's request to establish a fund to pay damages from the spill, and to temporarily suspend dividends as Gulf residents and businesses begin filing claims. BP said it will commit $20 billion to the fund.

Barton spoke in opening statements before testimony to the committee by BP Chief Executive Officer Tony Hayward, in his first appearance before Congress since its oil well exploded.

"It is a tragedy of the first proportion that a private corporation can be subjected to what I would characterize as a shakedown, in this case, a $20 billion shakedown," Barton said.

White House press secretary Robert Gibbs called in a statement for lawmakers from both parties to "repudiate his comments."

'Big Corporations'

"What is shameful is that Joe Barton seems to have more concern for big corporations that caused this disaster than the fishermen, small business owners and communities whose lives have been devastated by the destruction," Gibbs said.

Representative Edward Markey, a Massachusetts Democrat, rebuked Barton at the hearing, saying he disagreed "in the strongest possible terms."

"It was the government of the United States working to protect the most vulnerable citizens that we have in our country right now, the residents of the Gulf," Markey said.

HE APOLOGIZED TO BP. CAN YOU IMAGINE?? THE UNMITIGATED GALL OF THESE REPUBLICANS IS BEYOND THE IMAGINAION.

So once again we see a republican standing with big oil, just like we have seen them stand with wall street, the big banks and the insurance industry. BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT BARTON GOT $1.4 MILLION FROM THE OIL INDUSTRY. HOW DO YOU SPELL W-H-*-*E?

Those middle class people who vote republican do so against their own economic self interest. Republicans have never, I repeat never, done anything for the middle class in this country.

Edited June 18, 201016 yr by Cleo's Mom

Here's more:

House Conservatives Call Escrow Account 'Chicago Style Shakedown'

The Republican Study Committee, a group of conservative members of the House, released a statement today calling the $20 billion BP escrow account a "Chicago-style political shakedown."

"BP's reported willingness to go along with the White House's new fund suggests that the Obama Administration is hard at work exerting its brand of Chicago-style shakedown politics,

wrote chairman Tom Price (R-GA). "These actions are emblematic of a politicization of our economy that has been borne out of this Administration's drive for greater power and control."

The full statement:

We all agree that BP should be held fully responsible for its complicity in the oil tragedy in the Gulf," said Chairman Price. "In fact, BP has already begun paying claims. Any attempt by the company to sidestep that responsibility should be met with the strongest legal recourses available. However, in an administration that appears not to respect fundamental American principles, it is important to note that there is no legal authority for the President to compel a private company to set up or contribute to an escrow account. BP's reported willingness to go along with the White House's new fund suggests that the Obama Administration is hard at work exerting its brand of Chicago-style shakedown politics.

No, it reflects an effective, smart and tough president.

These actions are emblematic of a politicization of our economy that has been borne out of this Administration's drive for greater power and control. It is the same mentality that believes an economic crisis or an environmental disaster is the best opportunity to pursue a failed liberal agenda. The American people know much better.

Candidate John McCain said that if elected "we would know them by their names" (referring to those asking for earmarks) - well, the following are the wh**es of the oil industry who make up the republican study committee and we shall know them by their names:

RSC Member List

Robert Aderholt(AL-04)Todd Akin(MO-02)Rodney Alexander(LA-05)Steve Austria(OH-07)Michele Bachmann(MN-06)Spencer Bachus(AL-06)J.Gresham Barrett(SC-03)Roscoe Bartlett(MD-06)Joe Barton(TX-06)Brian Bilbray(CA-50)Gus Bilirakis (FL-09)Rob Bishop(UT-01)Marsha Blackburn(TN-07)Jo Bonner(AL-01)John Boozman(AR-03)Kevin Brady(TX-08)Paul Broun(GA-10)Henry Brown(SC-01)Vern Buchanan(FL-13)Michael Burgess(TX-26)Dan Burton(IN-05)Dave Camp(MI-04)John Campbell(CA-48)Eric Cantor(VA-07)John Carter(TX-31)Bill Cassidy(LA-06)Jason Chaffetz(UT-03)Howard Coble (NC-06)Mike Coffman(CO-06)Tom Cole(OK-04)Michael Conaway(TX-11)John Culberson(TX-07)Geoff Davis(KY-04)Mary Fallin(OK-05)Jeff Flake(AZ-06)John Fleming(LA-04)Randy Forbes(VA-04)Jeff Fortenberry(NE-01)Virginia Foxx(NC-05)Trent Franks(AZ-02)Scott Garrett(NJ-05)Phil Gingrey(GA-11)Louie Gohmert(TX-01)Bob Goodlatte(VA-06)Kay Granger (TX-12) Sam Graves(MO-06)Parker Griffith (AL-05)Brett Guthrie(KY-02)Ralph Hall (TX-04)Gregg Harper(MS-03)Jeb Hensarling(TX-05)Wally Herger(CA-02)Pete Hoekstra(MI-02)Duncan D. Hunter

(CA-52)Bob Inglis(SC-04)Darrell Issa(CA-49)Lynn Jenkins(KS-02)Sam Johnson(TX-03)Jim Jordan(OH-04)Steve King(IA-05)Jack Kingston(GA-01)John Kline(MN-02)Doug Lamborn(CO-05)Robert Latta (OH-05)Christopher Lee(NY-26)John Linder(GA-07)Frank Lucas(OK-03)Blaine Luetkemeyer(MO-09)Cynthia Lummis(WY)Dan Lungren(CA-03)Connie Mack(FL-14)Don Manzullo(IL-16)Kenny Marchant(TX-24)Michael McCaul(TX-10)Tom McClintock(CA-04)Thaddeus McCotter(MI-11)Patrick McHenry(NC-10)Buck McKeon(CA-25)Cathy McMorris Rodgers(WA-05)Gary Miller(CA-42)Jeff Miller(FL-01)Jerry Moran(KS-01)Sue Myrick(NC-09)Randy Neugebauer(TX-19)Pete Olson(TX-22)Mike Pence (IN-06)Joe Pitts(PA-16)Ted Poe(TX-02)Bill Posey(FL-15)Tom Price(GA-06)George Radanovich(CA-19)Denny Rehberg(MT)Phil Roe(TN-01)Tom Rooney(FL-16)Peter Roskam(IL-06)Ed Royce(CA-40)Paul Ryan(WI-01)Steve Scalise(LA-01)Aaron Schock(IL-18)Jean Schmidt(OH-02)Pete Sessions(TX-32)John Shadegg(AZ-03)John Shimkus(IL-19)Lamar Smith(TX-21)Cliff Stearns(FL-06)John Sullivan(OK-01)Glenn Thompson(PA-05)Mac Thornberry(TX-13)Todd Tiahrt(KS-04)Mike Turner(OH-03)Zach Wamp(TN-03)Lynn Westmoreland(GA-03)Joe Wilson(SC-02)Robert Wittman(VA-01)

These people need to be voted out of office. They are disgusting and despicable and sorry excuses for human beings. Then they can become lobbyists for the oil industry, which effectively they are now anyway.

Edited June 17, 201016 yr by Cleo's Mom

Given what he inherited from the bush failures, the obstuctionist republicans and the DINOs, it's amazing what Pres. Obama has accomplished so far. Am I sorry I voted for him? :smile: NO WAY!!!

It turns out that a lot of things that have happened in the less than two years of this administration are the biggest or first or most important in generations.

On the occasion of the Wall Street reform announcement today, Taegan Goddard at 'CQ Politics' wrote, 'Not since FDR has a president done so much to transform this country.'

Ms. Maddow could have stopped right here and I would have been extremely gratified, but she continued:

Even before today`s historic Wall Street reform agreement, President Obama, of course, did what politicians have been trying to do for more than 60 years. He passed

health reform

, which, for the first time, establishes government responsibility for the health care of American citizens.

Consider also the

stimulus bill

.

It didn`t just throw a lasso around our entire economy and yank and yank it back from the brink.

It also pumped about $100 billion into the crumbling embarrassment of our national infrastructure and transportation system.

Did she just say President Obama yanked the US economy back from the brink? At this point I’m smiling from ear to ear, but still she continued:

It was the largest investment in infrastructure since Ike. For solving our country`s energy problems, something Obama has compared to man walking on the moon, it contained about $60 billion in spending and tax incentives for renewable and clean energy, also a historic investment.

It also included an unheralded but giant investment in science and tech, amping up the budgets at NASA, the National Science Foundation, and an experimental energy research agency that was created under President George W. Bush, but never funded until now.

President Obama’s contribution so far to science and technology is one of the most under reported items of his still nascent administration. But there is more to come:

President Obama also expanded

state kids` health insurance

to cover another four million kids. He signed the

Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act

amending the 1964 civil rights act for equal pay for equal work.

He signed a nuclear arms deal with Russia that would reduce both countries` arsenals by a third. He created a new global nonproliferation initiative to keep nuclear materials out of the hands of terrorists.

Did all this happen in just 18 months? I thought this President was such a disappointment. Ms. Maddow:

He set forth an international way forward on that radical left-wing proposition of Ronald Reagan, a world without nuclear weapons. Then there are the legislative and policy achievements that don`t just build on previously-set precedents, but set new ones.

The Hate Crimes Prevention Act, also known as the Matthew Shepard Act. It had languished in Congress for years. The Food and Drug Administration permitted for the first time to

regulate tobacco.

Obama fired two wartime commanding generals in little over a year.

He overhauled the astonishing stupidity of the student loan system in which banks were being subsidized to give loans that were guaranteed by the government anyway, a license to print money.

That was ended in the savings put toward actual aid to students. He canceled a weapons program that was bloated, unnecessary and totally irrelevant to either of our current wars, the F-22.

Why even mention the cancellation of a single weapons system? Because that never happens. Weapons systems never get canceled. The F-22 did, which is itself a miracle.

Maddow also spoke of disappointments, but the difference in her expressed disappointment was the fact that she did not allow her disappointment to vilify or characterized this President as being worthless or the same as Bush:

In each of these achievements and in the list of things he has yet to do -'Don`t Ask, Don`t Tell,' closing Guantanamo - in each of these things, there is room for liberal disappointment. I sing a bittersweet lullaby to the lost public option when I go to sleep at night.

But presidential legacies are complex. Not even the Reagan administration`s legacy is pure as the conservative-driven snow. But Taegan Goddard at CQ Politics was right today about nothing this big happening since FDR.

This was certainly an amazing broadcast and one that actually left me stunned. Maddow ended with this:

The list of legislative accomplishments of this president in half a term even before energy reform which he`s probably going to get to is, to quote the vice president, 'a big freaking deal.'

Love this administration or hate it,

this president is getting a lot done.

The last time any president did this much in office, booze was illegal. If you believe in policy, if you believe in government that addresses problems, cheers to that. Good night.